Hmmm, that's new. Gonna be checking mine later for signs of it. Cheers for bringing that up!

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Added on June 24, 2012, 2:59 pmI can't answer that unless you tell me what you wanna use them for.

The WD Thunderbolt Duo is also upgradable, you just need to pop off the top and replace the two drives. It is noticeably slower than the Pegasus, but still faster than any USB3 drives in the market.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 24 2012, 02:59 PM

WD Thunderbolt Duo it is then. RAID 1 and you're covered, you'll have only 3TB of space though. I mirror everything if I can help it.

You got yourself a MBP RD and not using it for your photos, movies and videos? You don't have to bring around the Thunderbolt Duo, a SeaGate GoFlex 1.5TB USB3 external drive is plenty for me to work with while I'm out. Slower, but I usually transfer over the content I wanna edit onto the MBP, and edit it there so speed isn't an issue when it is done this way. Once edited, transfer back to the GoFlex.

There you go. Not all MBP RD deemed the same with the rest, perhaps the APRs themselves have done the necessary Software updates on display models to truly reflect the real working condition of the MBP RD. So much for the naysayers.

Dual-booting, even the mention of virtualization like Parallels, the more RAMs, the better. RAM upgrades to me is a no-brainer. Storage upgrades can come in the form of fast Thunderbolt or decent USB3 external storage. I won't be surprised if enterprising folks will find a way to boot from Thunderbolt external drives and work from it with fast speed as if it was booted internally.

Basically, adhere to what Olivur and SurpriseZZZZZ said. You cant go wrong.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 24 2012, 09:27 PM

1. VLC. Runs EVERYTHING. No additional codecs required.

2. Zip file extractor built in into OSX. For RAR, use RAR Expander or UnRARX

Can be anything. Transmission not closing for torrents underway. iTunes not closing for waiting to finish backup of iPhone or iPad. iPhoto library indexing and generating high def thumbnails and upgrading the library to the current iPhoto version onnthe MBP RD. Spotlight indexing not finished and he wants to immediately shutdown. Or even a hardware defect, as in flash storage chips defect. Him not being clear about what he's running at the time of shutdown, what his configuration is, can lead many to assume. What that assumptions are, depends on what you want to hear.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 24 2012, 11:32 PM

First do a "Verify Disk Permission" and "Repair Disk Permission" in Disk Utility. See if that fixes the freeze.

Otherwise:-

Shutdown. Do a clean install by booting into Lion recovery Command-R. Check drive health using the drive utility when you enter Lion Recovery. If it checks out fine, erase/format and reinstall Lion. Lion will then be downloaded after Apple confirms your machine eligibility and installs a fresh copy. Then if you have a Time Machine backup, restore from that. Or start new by reinstalling all your apps.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 24 2012, 11:35 PM

I'd like to refer to this sobering, sensible post by a forum member named The "Dude" in MacRumors forum about the escalating hostility that is happening the same thing there at that forum that is comparable to the atmosphere in this forum as well:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1392683&page=5



Rings a bell now, isn't it?

Makes it an even more important point for potential buyers to test this MBP RD out on a proper software-updated unit, and see if the performance you get out of this is what you consider as "satisfying". For me personally, the biggest leap is Retina Display. I've SSD on my portable notebook since 2008, so SSD snappiness isn't something new and revolutionary to me. I've had slimmer more compact notebook since early 2000 with my Vaio UX and the first MacBook Air. I've lighter laptops than this with my Toshiba Libretto W105(Still have it today). My single biggest pull to the MBP RD is the screen. It broke through the the "psychological" resolution barrier unnecessarily placed by PC manufacturer because they want to keep cost down and they assume everyone is happy with 1366x768 or 1600x900 on their laptops.

Not anymore.

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Added on June 25, 2012, 1:27 amADDENDUM: No burn-in issue on my MBP RD. Had the laptop running all the time while at the audiophile meet, left it running for 15 minutes before the screensaver kicked in, no burn-in, nothing. My own personal observation.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 25 2012, 01:27 AM

Which is why I suffixed it with "my own personal observation". I'm glad it didn't happened on mine, but if it did, I'd be pursuing your course of action right as what you did.

I had the screen on doing spring cleaning on the MBP RD for the better half of the day before yesterday so that I could get the MBP up to speed for the meet. No issues here. And that ADDENDUM was in response to BRY7 asking me in PM about the burn-in issue. In no way referred or a response to any post before this.

Not psychic, so I wouldn't know "you've started your post" when I posted that response either.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 25 2012, 01:44 AM

Easiest way to put it: if you're freaked out by all these issues, then hang back. If you're not, dive it. This is a chunk of change we're talking about, and I'd see why it worries some and cause nitpicks on others. No ill intent or harm intended on that statement either.

Wait till end of July, see if Mountain Lion fixes it. If it doesn't, hang back till Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake/Skymont fixes it and feel free to dive in anytime it has satisfy your personal criterias. My update cycle is unorthodox/different than the normal2/3 years folks hang on to their MacBooks.

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Added on June 25, 2012, 2:47 amTo soonwai regarding the burn-in issue,

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1392854 and https://discussions.apple.com/thread/403484...tart=0&tstart=0 you mean?

Read the thread in its entirety. A normal working Retina display loses the image retention "after a while", otherwise if it doesn't, then a return for exchange to Apple is due.

My personal habits of not leaving the display brightness up beyond the 60%, with screensaver kicking in after 3 minutes may have saved me.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 25 2012, 02:47 AM

"The Man" him, Anand Lal Shimpi himself speaks in this Anandtech video review of the next-generation MacBook Pro with Retina Display.

What happened when I moved from my MBA to MBP RD:

1. Unboxed at Machines KLCC. Copied Time Machine backup sparse bundle from my Time Capsule back home into an external HDD. Restore from that backup, missing chunks of settings and apps. Backup trashed. Command-R into Lion Recovery. Formatted/erase the flash storage (DO NOT format the Lion partition!), start from scratch. Clean install of Lion, so the machine runs nice and speedy.

2. Got home. Logged into Time Capsule at home. After Lion has been downloaded and installed, first boot up asks if wanna setup as new Mac or restore from backup. I chose restore from backup. Logged into the Time Capsule SSID. It found my MBA Time Machine backup. Restored from there.

3. PERFECT running MBP RD running from previous MBA Time MAchine backup.

From experience, you get better reliability using Time Machine restore and/or Migration Assistant if you are restoring from the same OS version. As in Lion backup restore to a new Mac running Lion as well. Snow Leopard/Leopard backups restoring to higher version OSX like Lion will not get a perfect restore up, some settings/prefs will need to be manually set up back again.

My iTunes, iPhoto, iWorks migrations are all done through Time Machine backup. That way I still have access to the old backups and old files I can retrieve back from Time Machine (by going back in time to copy them back to the present).

That iTunes folder copy method only works if you have ALL your media/content consolidated into the iTunes folder. My media/content for iTunes resides in an external Thunderbolt RAID array, which in turn makes restoring part pretty fast, and accurate coz it is only restoring the iTunes folders (iTunes media/content in separate location, remember?), and keeps the aliases pointing to the right place (to the Thunderbolt array). When dealing with almost 3TB worth of data in iTunes needing all pointed to the right location in the Thunderbolt array, I don't take chances, I'll let Time Machine do its thing.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 25 2012, 11:45 PM

Yup, I had problem migrating from Leopard to Snow Leopard on the 08-09 MBAs. Broken alias, erratic behavior of apps, the works. Had to reinstall from scratch.

Which is why I'm kinda glad I got this MBP RD still running Lion. The restore went without a hitch. Which is why I think Apple is ramping up Mac apps distribution via the Mac App Store, so that they can reduce the number of these glitches when restoring between Macs.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 26 2012, 12:34 AM

Never later than the estimated date, with potential chance of getting it earlier than the stipulated date.

The "how long" is when you added to cart, and click the "get delivery date" link.

You guys wanna continue your shipment discussion here or at the Apple Store Online Malaysia thread here? There's a reason why IVW made the new version there, and it is more relevant to discuss it there than drown this thread with shipment expectations rather than talking about the MacBooks and their pros/cons/quirks here. This is a MacBook Pro | MacBook Air Users Thread, not a shipment expectation thread. The other link I posted is more relevant to your discussion, not here.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 26 2012, 12:42 PM

Plugged it for a while on my Dell Ultrasharp U2711. Maxed out the resolution at 2560x1440. Still looks better on the MBP RD. I've been thoroughly spoilt by the Retina Display. I can't even bother plugging this into my HDTV, 1080p actually looks subpar to me.

There are no commercially affordable and available consumer monitors that has the 2880x1800 display. The next step up would be the 4K display. The same displays that will be for the Olympics 2012.

They cant release a Retina iMac yet, coz that'll lead to people speculating that a Retina Thunderbolt Cinema Display is not far behind. And if that happens, nobody will be buying the MBP RD coz the current MBP/MBA users will just get the cheapest MBP/MBA they can get and use a Retina Thunderbolt Cinema Display instead, making the MBP RD less desirable.

Retina Display technology will trickle down to the rest of Apple's lineup, but at a gradual pace so that not to cannibalize the other products they have in their current lineup.

There are those who subscribes to the "mobile on the move, docking at home" mantra. I was one of them when I used my MBA 11" before this. Not many do need that much of processing power or ultra high res screen on their laptops, unless your profession depends on it. Coz all this while, the general purchasing population of notebooks have been schooled with the thought that 1366x768 or even 1600x900 is enough for mobile computing, force-fed by PC manufacturers and even Apple themselves. Nobody has seen or care about the benefits of a Retina Display, until it arrived on the iPhone and the iPad. Cost is the mitigating factor and unfortunately, every single manufacturer out there are catering to the lowest common denominator: the general populace who are happy with their subpar displays. Apple is making even the general public stand up and take note that you dont have to stick with a decade old resolution anymore, it's time to move forward. It's about time.

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Added on June 26, 2012, 1:32 pmThat Toshiba QuadHD TV still uses HDMI inputs but the 1.4 profile which allows 4K2K resolution. MBP RD HDMI output only supports 1080p maximum.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 26 2012, 01:32 PM

Apple Certified Service Centers can change your MBP RD for USD199.

http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/apple-c...ttery-20120618/

Personally, I'm not worried as I upgrade every year. Before AppleCare expires.

I walk around with my Retina Display MacBook Pro, what's the big deal? I NEVER drive into KL, and always utilize public transport. LRT, bus, and when I commute between KLCC and Pavilion, I WALK between them using the pedestrian walkway connecting KLCC and Pavilion.

People have been spoiled with driving cars these days that the idea of walking is alien to them. Compared to New Yorkers who walk by blocks or cycle in Manhattan as their method of commute.

I moved from 11" MBA, to the Retina Display MBP. The weight is increased 100%, but for the amount of processing power I carry in the Retina Display MBP, there is no substitute out there. You want light MBA, you sacrifice processing power and performance.