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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V24, "Drive so fast for what???" EDITION

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davidke20
post Jun 18 2012, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 12:14 AM)
Found 1.3 vs 1.6 powah and torge graf here.
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post Jun 18 2012, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 12:43 AM)
Mane ade broken sleep.gif

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Take note though, this is for 1.6 and 1.3 IAFM. IAFM+ should be slightly different.
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Just now doesn't work wor, for 15 minutes I tried couldn't go in
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post Jun 18 2012, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 18 2012, 01:34 AM)
If anyone feels threaten or annoyed by my statements, that's their problem  rolleyes.gif

It's a subjective matter, let's continue via PM if you want  icon_rolleyes.gif  notworthy.gif
Now this is what I call competition  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 AM)
no thanks bro. i always remind myself to be low profile and less club-sist or less hyper-clubbing. means not to put much effort or heart towards a club which has no long term returns, except finding new friends.

we give and take. u also dun wan involve in much quarrel also. let's get the fact that we dun like war. so let's just remind each other to respect each other,k?

cheers. nod.gif
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 18 2012, 02:03 AM)
IINM, the Satria GTi had chassis enhancements. Therefore a stronger chassis compared to the other Satrias. It was, afterall, meant to be an enthusiast car.
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Chassis can not be enhanced, its molded that way according to the design, and thats it.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 02:05 AM)
I dunno ler whistling.gif

Anyways, I found this
That's what the above link says.
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Err... perhaps this is again another MISunderstanding. There are no changes on the chassis between 1.3,1.5,1.6 and 1.8 engine Satria. Satria GTi indeed improved on the SUSPENSION, include lighten/strengthen lower arm, harder suspension, brakes and any other detachable foot work equipment.

V12k is partially right about the chassis thingy, if you read the chassis code you may find most vehicle share the same chassis. Such as dugong family changes Chassis more often back in the old days, KE10(60's), KE20(early 70's), KE30(late 70's), KE70(late 70's). More of your familiar starting from 80's is KM36(Toyota hiace... WTF?! uses the chasis back in 70's)?! Thats why those car can really DRIFT, because the stiffness of the chassis + lorry type leaf spring suspension! shakehead.gif

After that, Dugong decided to ditch rear wheel power and go FF. Started with AE80(I assume you watch Initial D AE86 is the only and latest modern Toyota rear wheel drive before ALTEZZA). Later, AE has been roaring on the road for another 20+ years before Altis taking over, which all the Toyota become Dugong from that day onwards. All tall² and fat², very comfortable. notworthy.gif

For Mitshi.... CP9A, CP7A....all the while uses same chassis shakehead.gif Ebo 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,78,8,89,9,65,245,235,2352,345,2345,4132 looks like they're not going to change FOREBER!!!!
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post Jun 18 2012, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 17 2012, 09:51 PM)
What Kemuning? Haha I'm going to work at kemuning starting next month..

Back to topic. OMG cry.gif can claim warranty? Do I need to wait for 5k service? About 2k to go. Or I need to send as fast as possible?
No la.. I rase terlanggar tembok  unsure.gif  this morning cuci my car, found bottom front bumper calar already  shakehead.gif


Added on June 17, 2012, 9:58 pm

I saw almost 3 Mobil become Petron.. But Esso still Esso..
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Better send for checkup asap. U nvr know whether it affaect your tyre wear, dun wait until later tayar makan sebelah. Not sure whether got warranty since bushing is consider wear & tear. Good luck.

QUOTE(avengers88 @ Jun 17 2012, 11:54 PM)
The strut bar makes the car more stable during cornering? Then what's the difference for 3 point and 4 point?
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No, strut bar doesn't make much affect to driving experience. It may improve track time 0.2seconds/lap, provided professional driving skill + damn a lot os tight hairpin curve presents. Otherwise you'll feel exactly no change. According to my previous experience, if all 3 bars(front strut, rear strut & room bar) installed, hai speed cornering become very stiff. No room for mistake or the car easier to spin. No idea whether placebo or real effect.

For example, when you hit the right apex, roll on the curb to achieve efficient lap time:

With chassis flex, the left suspension will be able to continue adjust & absorb any extra movement.

Without chassis flex, suspension will not be able to absorb extra movement, the oversteer situation become under as rejected by the apex curb. Driver will have to continue adjust steering wheel to keep the car at the most efficient racing line!

However, the above situation ONLY applicable when you attacking corner with enough G-Force to bend your chassis, otherwise your car should feel exactly the same with/without strut bar, may be felt extra few hundrad grams heavier with the strut bar.

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 08:20 AM)
Unker, before anyone comments on the chassis part, I want to point out that Dugong specifically refers to the current gen Vios car only, NOT TOYOTA OR THEIR OTHER CARS  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I know,I'm saying the dugong family
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post Jun 18 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 18 2012, 09:28 AM)
Evo mana ada use same chassis? Sometimes automakers will still name their chassis closely to their predecessor, like Evo it starts from CD9A (E1), then CE9A (E2 & E3), CN9A (E4), CP9A (E5 & E6), CT9A (E7,8,9) and finally CZ9A (E10).

Even the new R35 GT-R although is the continuation of the legendary 1990s Nissan Skyline GT-R series (R32-R24), it doesn't share the same chassis. Its chassis is unique and therefore it has a different name to it. CBA-R35. Older Skyline GT-R are BNR3x

And the dugong doesn't have any family. LOL
It was created to slot into the market in the early 2000s when the Corolla has grown big and became more expensive. It doesn't have any deep roots like its Corolla big brother.
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Thanks for inputing the rest, as I previously mentioned PARTIAL truth.

I know BNR series from NIGGAN smile.gif All built for GT purpose! UNsurprisingly, Cefiro A31 can accommodate the entire body of R31 laugh.gif this is another partial truth of using old chassis to produce newer model vehicle? hmm.gif (No comment, just my own opinion)

Dugong family is a myth to me, as I stop playing with TOYOGA since 2004, not following anymore. Again, thanks for updating. Love thy AE series old corollas.

Thanks again V12k for the great input.
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post Jun 18 2012, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 18 2012, 09:59 AM)
platform sharing wink.gif

The R31 Skyline shares the same platform with Nissan Laurel. The Skyline are meant to be a more sporty saloon while the Laurel is the one with more wood and velvet. When the Asian market in need of a new big saloon to battle the camry and accord the Skyline doesn't suit most of the buyer profile (old, mustache, you imagine), so Nissan just take the laurel, "cheapskate it" and put in a slightly sportier body to become the A31 Nissan Cefiro.
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Wuakakakakakkakaka laugh.gif now that explained everything. Meaning that indeed A31 evolved from the R31, which inconjunction also platform sharing with the taxi Laurel laugh.gif In order to tackle market, same platform developed different type of vehicle to supply market demand, for example:

Late 70's Laurel(widely turned into yellow+black roof taxi back in 90's), more of a president type of elegance executive mersilis knockoff for 50 year old pakcik

Early 80's, motor sports roaring and R30 was born(didn't know it took chassis from Laurel). Stuff in new engine, strip off the velvet+wooden interior, shed off few kg and make it a touring car!

Late 80's, after petrol crisis, no choise but to take off the powerful motor and replace with old propeller in-line 6 engine on the same platform. Again strip bear the R31/Laurel taxi and made it a fancy brand new Cefiro laugh.gif

Correct my statement if I put it in a wrong manner blush.gif Demit you know a lot of motorsport stuff before you born wei. TQVM on the useful info.

P/S: my Iswaga chassis is C21A - is a Lancer 1977 Racing Spirit! Sagria is PL1C, Colt/Mirage/Lancer! Lancer 2001 is CT9A, Ebo6 Tommy Makinen Edition also same. Buying Plotong Fira is like buying an Ebo with a small engine plonked in blink.gif Thanks for bring this matter up, for the 1st time I learn sooooooo many things in the thread :hail:
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 10:57 AM)
I tot I very lek already coz this morning i sendiri cabut door panel and pasang balik sad.gif

Imma gonna sit in a corner and be quiet quiet...ph34r.gif
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Very lek ady. The 2nd day I got ma car ady broke 1 of the door panel mounting after I opened it to change the damaged by previous owner centre lock gun cry.gif
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post Jun 18 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 18 2012, 11:19 AM)
wow BLM TRD  laugh.gif
nice  thumbup.gif

morning everyone  wub.gif
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That spoiler came together with the car nod.gif after kena sarcastic by Huzaifa:"Oh! Keta kau yg Dugong puteh tu?!" doh.gif I had no choice but to faster take it off.

The last time I did pest control was few years ago. Spray ubat anai-anai on the carpet, left the car window shut over night. Next day found all sorts of creature die outside laugh.gif cocroach la,lizard la, bugs la, many other things. But the car had to send for steam wash if not can't drive, the fume can kill me also. Overall, damn satisfied with RM15 cost of pest control icon_idea.gif until today nothing invade my ISWAGA anymore nod.gif
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post Jun 18 2012, 06:19 PM

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My BLM always 50km/bar, be it haiway or town driving blink.gif right foot ady super light coz menten above 10in/hg vacuum blink.gif it will be great if can get Luke to drive my car and finish my tank of petrol to see whether its car problem or driver problem blink.gif I've tried every possible way, still FC stands at 10-11km/l shakehead.gif kinda numb ady after 3 months suffer
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 10:08 PM)
u can be hyper-milling sifu ni  rclxms.gif  <cc: davidke20>
it's driving style in kl, stuck in traffic jam and aircond at highest temp
for manual car, if u drag the gear too long it'll consume more fuel
that's why one must get to the highest gear as fast as possible and as condition allows

i've nvr driven manual blm so nvr knew optimum shift point
but if i ever drive a manual, it'll be based on the engine sound  hmm.gif

question is does our sense correct? if wrong then that's the problem of high fc
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Sense? Even my left foot can't trust my right foot with DbW. What else can go wrong by strictly following 10~20in/hg vacuum(-0.3~-0.6bar)

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Really given up jor. Until I found a way to hit 500km/tank, then only I'll talk about it again.
yawn.gif enough FC lar... I'm going to bed, until next topic yawn.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 11:48 PM)
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but last time u got a good fc also right? or at least normal fc
if i'm not mistaken the picture with 3/4 bar left with 2xx km?
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Well, sometimes it tricked me. When I was happily see the trip meter went to 200+ km whilst still doing 3 box, then the rest of the box will quickly run dry. Again, maxed the tank at 300+ km. yawn.gif Now I don't even bother la. Sometimes 30km already 1 box gone, but it will still last up to 280km~300km. blink.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 12:20 AM)
your signature gonna get nuked clean
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OK, left GaGa only
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post Jun 19 2012, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 19 2012, 12:25 AM)
go read the siggy size rule piliz...
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like this ok ar? blink.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 10:09 AM

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This thread is officially FC discussion liao laugh.gif lemme try Petronas next time. The most recent I use Shell only do 9km/l
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post Jun 19 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 19 2012, 12:18 PM)
Bro, V12kontena is forum username or something else ?
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post Jun 19 2012, 01:06 PM

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Engine oil discussion now ar? PeroGua 10W30 3litre for Gancil nod.gif the oil burnt hangus ady within 1000km doh.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 19 2012, 01:19 PM)
I don't know la it is just my feeling or what? I wonder why they don't want to open to check..
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Darling, drive your car to flat gloss ground, such as Mid Valley parking lot and listen to your tyre on straight line. If can hear screeching sound, most probably alignment out. Normal computer alignment cost RM15 and that's it. Don't let them con you to add something camber screw lar, adjust camber lar. Those are nonsense until you hit a pothole hard and bent your lower arm, otherwise those camber adjustment are just a way they pitch for more profit. Bad camber is something like this

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Bad alignment is this

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Normally, besides of steering bush, bad alignment will also result in steering numb/turning back slow after cornering. I assume you're not an hard arse that corner like me, your bush should still fine as your car only 1 month old. Steering bush is an wear & tear item, normal driving condition can last up to 2 years, the more parallel parking you do, the faster it die. Died"ed" steering bush normally you'll feel significant numb on steering feedback. For example after steering full turn during reverse, if you put it to forward and step on the gas, the steering will auto correct itself; as for bad steering bush your steering will stick to full turn and continue make donut when you step on the gas.

Bad alignment vehicle normally give numb feedback because the wheel not agreeing on the straight line, after steering full turn already, both wheels tend to rejecting each other instead of agreeing.

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 01:19 PM)
try minyak cap petai


Added on June 19, 2012, 1:22 pm

oh cheh.

If they feel its normal or within tolerance then of course they won't open it up lor.
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They don't produce anymore

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 19 2012, 03:08 PM)
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I saw this while the wheel was taken off. Fuel filter?
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 07:31 PM)
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PROBLEM??  brows.gif  brows.gif
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post Jun 20 2012, 06:14 AM

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My free gift listed at below:

- Car key
- Nail on front left wheel
- Old news paper on the floor
- New paint rclxms.gif
- 4.10% interest
- A piece of dangdut CD left in the player
- Some mold on the visor
- Sratches on the windscreen tinted film

flex.gif So far my list is the longest
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A guy approach me at the kapak this morning, trying to sell me OCTANE TABLET shakehead.gif Thought you guys might be interested to know.

Sales pitch: Specifically designed with nano technology. Involved in NASA space shuttle research & development. Space craft carrying limited amount of highly flamable fuel, OCTANE is the booster energy for those fuel to help in terms of save petrol & increase horse power. Space craft need to be light weight & therefor save fuel I important to ensure the shuttle gave enough fuel to return to earth with limited fuel. Space shuttle exist since 70's, why now only introduced? We have the answer for that. 1 of the scientist left the R&D, came up with his own idea to help save petrol for road vehicle. OCTANE TABLET has developed with slightly toned down performance to avoid road vehicle being burst into flame. Ever since, millions of our satisfied customer has been benefited from Dr.Space Shuttle. And now, OCTANE TABLET is very affordable RM8/pc, 4 pcs / pack. Before refill petrol, throw in a tablet then fill up full tank. You can have the rocket power provided save petrol up to 25%. Abang imaginekan, 10 ringgit petrol only can do 50km, now you can do 63km. If 1 full tank 50 ringgit, you can go extra 63km! Jimat RM12.50! Bagus kan? Hari ini saja, 1 paket RM32. Abang nampak hensem kacak, saya kasi diskaun lagi, RM30. Hari ini saja, lain talak. Hari ini saja.

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My opinion: space shuttle uses high density liquid oxigen as fuel, where got petrol? Octane main function is to retard the burning point, doesn't increase horse power. Octane is liquid. If tablet, it need some sort of hardening chemical, can my engine digest those chemical? If not, will it be blown out directly through exhaust valve or become carbon stick in the combustion chamber? Even if it does get out from engine, it will definitely jammed at the catcon!

Ladies & gentlemen, make a smart decision please.

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