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FenomX
post Jun 16 2012, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Jun 16 2012, 08:13 PM)
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Added on June 16, 2012, 8:34 pmAnyway, my friend who studied engineering in automotive in the UK told me this. based on his driving review and knowledge after touching so many cars in his profession fields.

Design:
The car is designed based on aerodynamic. Many had asked why such high boots the height of the rear is ridiculously annoying as i can't see the rear windscreen and hard to reverse my car.

Ans: In motorsport, the lower the better due to gravity force. But let's bear in mind you are driving a sedan car on a normal road with heavy traffic or unstable flow of traffic, when you are in the highway, emergency brakes could occur and based on the aerodynamic design, it could helps to stop the car faster because it is blocking the wind and never let it flow. The different between motorsport is that, they are using a much better braking system which the cost is not compatible with a sedan car.

I kinda agree with your preve design because it look's like a coupe but inside it is a sedan car. This is kind of performance sedan car.

Fuel Charge:
You'll have to forward this to proton as i am not sure how the campro engine works, but based on your vehicle FC, this is a problem. The turbo unit in your car is so small that it is actually for you to save the fuel and faster acceleration. It uses the air to push the car with the combinations of your fuel. [he didn't go into technical part as he expected me not to know anything which is true]

sluggish issue:
This is extremely normal since you only have a turbo unit. It has been a disease in our field which there is no solution but alternative way of making it better. I know you are going to ask me why the audi car they don't have the sluggish issues but why proton?

Ans: Unplug the supercharge from the Audi and enjoy even more sluggishness issue. Audi is an innovation automotive company. Their quattro engine is well known because they use the turbo for pickup and later on use the supercharge for top speed. Did you know that the quattro engine in R8 consist of 2 turbos unit and 2 supercharger? Of course there will be no sluggish issue when you can have so much torque and HP that overcome the weight of your car in the very beginning.

any questions you want me to ask him faster tell me ;P

see if he could answer you but his profession is motorsport not really into automotive sedan.

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Hey guys, sorry want to ask,i know chassis below 3k still has OWV issue but is car with chassis 4k ok? i read a lot here just cant remember who said what and whats the chassis. hope to get some feedback to show to ma waifu =.=...
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Jun 12 2012, 09:07 AM)
Proton Prevé Owners and Fans Club V11

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Drive It to Believe It



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List of the bravest Proton Supporters
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Please PM me so i can update your name into the namelist. Try not to reply it in the forum cause this is a very hot pancake thread, i away for 1 hour come back 300+ replies so i might missed out your name. PM me and i will add you in the list.


Date of Owners Receiving their new car  rclxms.gif

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Common Troubleshooting from the owners 

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List to be checked when receiving your Proton Prevé

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Tips And Tricks for the Drivers and Owners.

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Q&A from the CAT team with one of our member (K2002) : *only as guide and not to be taken as a definitive answer*
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PROTON Preve 4 Dr Sal 1.6 Premium (CFE) (A) [04/12-]


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Second PREVOC TT!


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TT PREVOC V2

PREVOC is having their 2nd TT soon. Right now please leave your suggestions below on the date, time

and location most of you will be available. This TT would be for focus on Central Region, but I have

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Hi guys...do u mind if we can join another TT which will be organize by another preve club called "prevec" so far the prevec club already come with a plan to gather all previans at Putrajaya by end of this month...i hope we can go together and unite as previan...because i think the more, the merrier... just my 20 cents.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 16 2012, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(FenomX @ Jun 16 2012, 08:17 PM)

Ans: Unplug the supercharge from the Audi and enjoy even more sluggishness issue. Audi is an innovation automotive company. Their quattro engine is well known because they use the turbo for pickup and later on use the supercharge for top speed. Did you know that the quattro engine in R8 consist of 2 turbos unit and 2 supercharger? Of course there will be no sluggish issue when you can have so much torque and HP that overcome the weight of your car in the very beginning.
Are you sure? I would have thought the reverse is true

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TT PREVOC V2

PREVOC is having their 2nd TT soon. Right now please leave your suggestions below on the date, time

and location most of you will be available. This TT would be for focus on Central Region, but I have

also added additional column for North, East, South region TT as well as our Sabah and Sarawak

region TT.

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FenomX
post Jun 16 2012, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 16 2012, 08:58 PM)
Are you sure? I would have thought the reverse is true
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For street applications, blower sizing is as important a consideration as turbo sizing. A small blower works better at low speed and develops power more quickly than a large one. A large blower is great for top end power, but isn't as well suited to lower rpm operation because of its greater power burden on the engine.

One of the most important advantages of supercharging street engines is that it can transform a relatively stock motor into a real performer without a lot of expensive modifications. Supercharging can be a straight bolt-on installation, and it works well with stock heads, cams and pistons. What's more, it delivers better low speed throttle response and torque than a naturally aspirated engine with a big carburetor, big valves, high compression and "hot" cam.

Dyno tests have shown that a blower can be much more "streetable" than a naturally aspirated engine that's been built up to deliver an equivalent level of power. A blown engine is more streetable because it performs better at low rpms. A blower kit may cost several hundred dollars more to install than what it would take in equivalent engine modifications to obtain the same level of performance with a bigger carburetor or throttle body, hotter cam and modified heads. But the blown engine will deliver about 10% more power and torque in the lower speed ranges where it does the most good on the street. Besides that, a blown street motor looks great.

The ultimate in performance, of course, is achieved by building a motor specifically for the blower. Using a "blower" cam that optimizes the breathing characteristics of the blower can improve both low speed torque and high speed power. A long duration cam with a lot of overlap isn't good with a blower because the boost pressure goes in the intake valve and right out the exhaust port at low speed. What works best is a cam with little overlap, a lot of lift and duration but more lift and duration on the exhaust valves (since the blower does nothing to help evacuate the cylinders). With a turbocharged engine, more lift and duration is needed on the intake valve to prevent backpressure (created by the turbo) from backing up into the cylinder.

One caution to keep in mind with any kind of forced induction system is compression. Because of the extra air and fuel that's rammed into the cylinders, detonation can become a problem if compression gets out of hand. Most blown engines work best with a static compression ratio of less than 8:1 (7:1 or 7.5: 1 is best). The lower the static compression ratio, the higher the boost pressure you can safely run with the blower and the lower the rpm range at which the blower can develop peak torque.

The typical boost provided by either a turbocharger or a supercharger is 6 to 8 pounds per square inch (psi). Since normal atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi at sea level, you can see that you are getting about 50-percent more air into the engine. Therefore, you would expect to get 50-percent more power. It's not perfectly efficient, though, so you might get a 30-percent to 40-percent improvement instead. ­

The key difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger is its power supply. Something has to supply the power to run the air compressor. In a supercharger, there is a belt that connects directly to the engine. It gets its power the same way that the water pump or alternator does. A turbocharger, on the other hand, gets its power from the exhaust stream. The exhaust runs through a turbine, which in turn spins the compressor

There are tradeoffs in both systems. In theory, a turbocharger is more efficient because it is using the "wasted" energy in the exhaust stream for its power source. On the other hand, a turbocharger causes some amount of back pressure in the exhaust system and tends to provide less boost until the engine is running at higher RPMs. Superchargers are easier to install but tend to be more expensive.

Edit: Source @ Schmidt, Third year engineering student in Oxford Brookes University.

This post has been edited by FenomX: Jun 16 2012, 09:09 PM
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post Jun 16 2012, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(FenomX @ Jun 16 2012, 08:17 PM)
sluggish issue:
This is extremely normal since you only have a turbo unit. It has been a disease in our field which there is no solution but alternative way of making it better. I know you are going to ask me why the audi car they don't have the sluggish issues but why proton?

Ans: Unplug the supercharge from the Audi and enjoy even more sluggishness issue. Audi is an innovation automotive company. Their quattro engine is well known because they use the turbo for pickup and later on use the supercharge for top speed. Did you know that the quattro engine in R8 consist of 2 turbos unit and 2 supercharger? Of course there will be no sluggish issue when you can have so much torque and HP that overcome the weight of your car in the very beginning.

any questions you want me to ask him faster tell me ;P

see if he could answer you but his profession is motorsport not really into automotive sedan.
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quattro actually refer to their (Audi) AWD system, and has nothing to do with the engine.

and the R8 in the context is the R8 as in the car in Ironman movie or the R8 which is a race-only prototype?
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post Jun 16 2012, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 16 2012, 09:16 PM)
quattro actually refer to their (Audi) AWD system, and has nothing to do with the engine.

and the R8 in the context is the R8 as in the car in Ironman movie or the R8 which is a race-only prototype?
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yes, Quattro is refering to the AWD system which means All Wheel Drive system which is based on the Lamborghini Gallardo platform. In their quattro engines, there are certain builts up for the demands in certain motorsport department.

one of the most obvious is the R8 Coupé 5.2 FSI quattro, which consist of twin turbo engine, however, the ideal of having both were soon diminished before it get to the production line as claimed by the audi engineers that the designed flow could caused overheating issues.

the one with twin turbo was Audi C6 RS 6 5.0 TFSI quattro

remember, we are talking about the concept of turbocharger and supercharger and how audi used them in their quattro engine not about what is quattro engine.

This post has been edited by FenomX: Jun 16 2012, 09:22 PM
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post Jun 16 2012, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(FenomX @ Jun 16 2012, 09:07 PM)
For street applications, blower sizing is as important a consideration as turbo sizing. A small blower works better at low speed and develops power more quickly than a large one. A large blower is great for top end power, but isn't as well suited to lower rpm operation because of its greater power burden on the engine.

One of the most important advantages of supercharging street engines is that it can transform a relatively stock motor into a real performer without a lot of expensive modifications. Supercharging can be a straight bolt-on installation, and it works well with stock heads, cams and pistons. What's more, it delivers better low speed throttle response and torque than a naturally aspirated engine with a big carburetor, big valves, high compression and "hot" cam.

Dyno tests have shown that a blower can be much more "streetable" than a naturally aspirated engine that's been built up to deliver an equivalent level of power. A blown engine is more streetable because it performs better at low rpms. A blower kit may cost several hundred dollars more to install than what it would take in equivalent engine modifications to obtain the same level of performance with a bigger carburetor or throttle body, hotter cam and modified heads. But the blown engine will deliver about 10% more power and torque in the lower speed ranges where it does the most good on the street. Besides that, a blown street motor looks great.

The ultimate in performance, of course, is achieved by building a motor specifically for the blower. Using a "blower" cam that optimizes the breathing characteristics of the blower can improve both low speed torque and high speed power. A long duration cam with a lot of overlap isn't good with a blower because the boost pressure goes in the intake valve and right out the exhaust port at low speed. What works best is a cam with little overlap, a lot of lift and duration but more lift and duration on the exhaust valves (since the blower does nothing to help evacuate the cylinders). With a turbocharged engine, more lift and duration is needed on the intake valve to prevent backpressure (created by the turbo) from backing up into the cylinder.

One caution to keep in mind with any kind of forced induction system is compression. Because of the extra air and fuel that's rammed into the cylinders, detonation can become a problem if compression gets out of hand. Most blown engines work best with a static compression ratio of less than 8:1 (7:1 or 7.5: 1 is best). The lower the static compression ratio, the higher the boost pressure you can safely run with the blower and the lower the rpm range at which the blower can develop peak torque.

The typical boost provided by either a turbocharger or a supercharger is 6 to 8 pounds per square inch (psi). Since normal atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi at sea level, you can see that you are getting about 50-percent more air into the engine. Therefore, you would expect to get 50-percent more power. It's not perfectly efficient, though, so you might get a 30-percent to 40-percent improvement instead. ­

The key difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger is its power supply. Something has to supply the power to run the air compressor. In a supercharger, there is a belt that connects directly to the engine. It gets its power the same way that the water pump or alternator does. A turbocharger, on the other hand, gets its power from the exhaust stream. The exhaust runs through a turbine, which in turn spins the compressor

There are tradeoffs in both systems. In theory, a turbocharger is more efficient because it is using the "wasted" energy in the exhaust stream for its power source. On the other hand, a turbocharger causes some amount of back pressure in the exhaust system and tends to provide less boost until the engine is running at higher RPMs. Superchargers are easier to install but tend to be more expensive.

Edit: Source @ Schmidt, Third year engineering student in Oxford Brookes University.
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AFAIK, at low engine rpm, there aren't enough exhaust gas energy to work the turbo charger so typically, turbo charger work at higher rpm or later stage of the power band or when car already moving at higher speed.

On the other hand, supercharge typically work at lower engine rpm aka, car moving from standstill or initial pickup.

This is contrary to what you said earlier "turbo for pickup and later on use the supercharge for top speed"
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Jun 16 2012, 01:23 AM)
i do at ipoh sc,,,car sended there by my bro...3 days to fix it...

u from Kepong and me and kiapreve is so near...should TT togather and checking each other car about problem ma...
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Bro, actually i thought to call you last thursday night to come out to have a drinks....
Because my wife after working go out with their sister gang to have a dinner.

Unfortunately, the traffic very jam when i on the way back from Wisma Genting to Kepong. It took me about 1hrs 15 mins, reach home oredy 9pm, i feel pai seh last mins call you biggrin.gif

Sure we will have a chance to come out.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 16 2012, 09:21 PM)
AFAIK, at low engine rpm, there aren't enough exhaust gas energy to work the turbo charger so typically, turbo charger work at higher rpm or later stage of the power band or when car already moving at higher speed.

On the other hand, supercharge typically work at lower engine rpm aka, car moving from standstill or initial pickup.

This is contrary to what you said earlier "turbo for pickup and later on use the supercharge for top speed"
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due to its engine compartment in audi or quattro, audi used it to twist for a better utilization for their quattro engine. Remember, this is the concept, not an actual theory which it works in their engine and gave them the rewards of best engine for efficiency in its class.

because of sluggish issue which audi do not want it to happen, they used their own concept to solve it. Innovation is their key in becoming successful in the automotive industry.

EDIT: REMEMBER, i am providing the answer based on my friend's explanation. Going out soon, i reply everyone of you later. Peace wink.gif

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When i on the way back to Tg Sepat. I stopped by a Petrol Station near LCCT for petrol refill, unfortunately when i start my engine from the petrol station and one step stepping the fuel pedal to maximum, i am only manage to reach 70KM/J and then feeling sluggish and slow to move up to 80KM/J. I tried to release the pedal and step fuel pedal again and it still moving up slow to 90KM to 100KM/j along the LCCT F1. Feeling like the power drop little bit when i driving along the normal road.

Does this because the car power cannot cope too high pedal stepping at one time?

The power gain back, when i stopped at the Sepang traffic light and prepare to drive along the road to Sg Pelek and Tg Sepat. The over taking power from 70KM to 100KM was too fast, about 3 to 4 secs and i have manage to over take the car infront of me..

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Added on June 16, 2012, 9:39 pm
QUOTE(FenomX @ Jun 16 2012, 09:12 PM)
Anyone of you feel the car vibration when it is idle?
unlike those vibration, this one it feels like wanted to move but hesitating.

not "breeeeeeeeeee" or whatsoever, it's like heartbeat tempo sort of. No vibrating sound just the heartbeat when N mode and handbrake are pulled.
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I have experienced the same and reported to service centre. Told by them, it was mainly due to the radiator fan moving and causing you feel like a very minor vibration like the car going to moving little to the front.

They said that, this should be normal wor...may be Preve radiator fan or air cond fan design not that perfect on Preve.

This post has been edited by kiapreve: Jun 16 2012, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(zelantious @ Jun 16 2012, 08:56 PM)
Hi guys...do u mind if we can join another TT which will be organize by another preve club called "prevec" so far the prevec club already come with a plan to gather all previans at Putrajaya by end of this month...i hope we can go together and unite as previan...because i think the more, the merrier... just my 20 cents.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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i am open to this idea smile.gif


Added on June 16, 2012, 9:53 pm
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 15 2012, 10:18 PM)
Banyak orang voted for TT to be held on 23rd June, Caturday, 8pm @ Bukit Jalil

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Mana ada boss... this was the last tally of the vote that i counted...

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23rd, 2pm, bukit jalil
- archiq
- White LighteR
- DryCell
- kiapreve
- infinityplayaz
- Saya_Dhuang
- my1508
- Dark Adam
- redflame

23rd, 2pm, Cheras
- kiapreve

23rd, 8pm, bukit jalil
- redflame
- DryCell
- JOE564

23rd, 8pm, cheras
- valence
- k2002

16th, 2pm, bukit jalil
- maverickng
- White LighteR
- Junn

16th, 2pm, cheras
- maverickng
- Junn

16th, 8pm, bukit jalil
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16th, 8pm, cheras
- dares

Added on June 16, 2012, 9:55 pmAnyway faster decide and vote, i will give the result of the highest number of vote by 12am tonight to vignes so he can set an event notification at fb...

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Another update from me is that through a source, I was able to source a carbon type aircon dust filter. I will help him get the correct sizing and the first batch is expected to be around RM70-80. Please add your name below if you would be interested in the first group buy. Thanks..

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jun 16 2012, 10:00 PM)
Another update from me is that through a source, I was able to source a carbon type aircon dust filter. I will help him get the correct sizing and the first batch is expected to be around RM70-80. Please add your name below if you would be interested in the first group buy. Thanks..

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add me please... thanx you.

Carbon type aircon dust filter Group Buy:
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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Jun 16 2012, 08:53 AM)
So, actually none of us have the OWV solved in klang valley except for maverickng done in Ipoh, and Proton still do not have the spare part.. doh.gif

Correct me but i am wrong.. nod.gif

Wewanwang, can you PM me once proton called you, then I will make an appointment with them.

Yes, it is the cold start over cranking sound in the morning.. sweat.gif
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Okie, will pm u once confirm with the SC if the spare parts arrived smile.gif
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QUOTE(FenomX @ Jun 16 2012, 08:12 PM)
Anyone of you feel the car vibration when it is idle?
unlike those vibration, this one it feels like wanted to move but hesitating.

not "breeeeeeeeeee" or whatsoever, it's like heartbeat tempo sort of. No vibrating sound just the heartbeat when N mode and handbrake are pulled.
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I'm experiencing the same thing...

QUOTE(FenomX @ Jun 16 2012, 08:17 PM)
still under servicing  blush.gif


Added on June 16, 2012, 8:34 pmAnyway, my friend who studied engineering in automotive in the UK told me this. based on his driving review and knowledge after touching so many cars in his profession fields.

Design:
The car is designed based on aerodynamic. Many had asked why such high boots the height of the rear is ridiculously annoying as i can't see the rear windscreen and hard to reverse my car.

Ans: In motorsport, the lower the better due to gravity force. But let's bear in mind you are driving a sedan car on a normal road with heavy traffic or unstable flow of traffic, when you are in the highway, emergency brakes could occur and based on the aerodynamic design, it could helps to stop the car faster because it is blocking the wind and never let it flow. The different between motorsport is that, they are using a much better braking system which the cost is not compatible with a sedan car.

I kinda agree with your preve design because it look's like a coupe but inside it is a sedan car. This is kind of performance sedan car.

Fuel Charge:
You'll have to forward this to proton as i am not sure how the campro engine works, but based on your vehicle FC, this is a problem. The turbo unit in your car is so small that it is actually for you to save the fuel and faster acceleration. It  uses the air to push the car with the combinations of your fuel. [he didn't go into technical part as he expected me not to know anything which is true]

sluggish issue:
This is extremely normal since you only have a turbo unit. It has been a disease in our field which there is no solution but alternative way of making it better. I know you are going to ask me why the audi car they don't have the sluggish issues but why proton?

Ans: Unplug the supercharge from the Audi and enjoy even more sluggishness issue. Audi is an innovation automotive company. Their quattro engine is well known because they use the turbo for pickup and later on use the supercharge for top speed. Did you know that the quattro engine in R8 consist of 2 turbos unit and 2 supercharger? Of course there will be no sluggish issue when you can have so much torque and HP that overcome the weight of your car in the very beginning.

any questions you want me to ask him faster tell me ;P

see if he could answer you but his profession is motorsport not really into automotive sedan.
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Agreed to most of it. But turbo/supercharge, supercharge should works better at low end and turbo charger at top end.

QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 16 2012, 08:58 PM)
Are you sure? I would have thought the reverse is true
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Agreed.

QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 16 2012, 09:21 PM)
AFAIK, at low engine rpm, there aren't enough exhaust gas energy to work the turbo charger so typically, turbo charger work at higher rpm or later stage of the power band or when car already moving at higher speed.

On the other hand, supercharge typically work at lower engine rpm aka, car moving from standstill or initial pickup.

This is contrary to what you said earlier "turbo for pickup and later on use the supercharge for top speed"
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Not entirely true. Turbo charger at whichever rpm depends on the A/R ratio on the turbine and turbine size vs engine capacity(cc).

For the same turbine size and engine capacity, smaller a/r will produce power at lower end and will tend to choke the turbine housing at a larger exhaust rate(higher RPMs) and larger a/r will contribute to the higher RPMs(larger exhaust volume rate) but it will causes turbo lag due to larger exhaust volume require to spin the turbine into effective rotating speed.

And there are always centrifugal type supercharger for the high powered engine. But then again, this type of supercharger wil also lags a little compare to twin screw type. But better than the same power rated turbo charger.

This post has been edited by speed2horizon: Jun 16 2012, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jun 16 2012, 09:48 PM)
i am open to this idea smile.gif


Added on June 16, 2012, 9:53 pm

Mana ada boss... this was the last tally of the vote that i counted...

Added on June 16, 2012, 9:55 pmAnyway faster decide and vote, i will give the result of the highest number of vote by 12am tonight to vignes so he can set an event notification at fb...
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ah, crap.

copied wrongly to my piece of paper >.<
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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Jun 16 2012, 10:04 PM)
Okie, will pm u once confirm with the SC if the spare parts arrived  smile.gif
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TQ TQ wewanwang notworthy.gif


This afternoon i smell burning smell for the second time in my car cabin while driving on NPE like my car on fire.. icon_question.gif

The smell is not from outside surrounding. hmm.gif Anyone smell this burning smell before?

I drove at 140kmph only at that time, not even 210kmph. tongue.gif




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QUOTE(FenomX @ Jun 16 2012, 09:24 PM)
due to its engine compartment in audi or quattro, audi used it to twist for a better utilization for their quattro engine. Remember, this is the concept, not an actual theory which it works in their engine and gave them the rewards of best engine for efficiency in its class.

because of sluggish issue which audi do not want it to happen, they used their own concept to solve it. Innovation is their key in becoming successful in the automotive industry.

EDIT: REMEMBER, i am providing the answer based on my friend's explanation. Going out soon, i reply everyone of you later. Peace wink.gif
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have u all tested exora bold premium ? i own exora bold CFE for 5 months now and I CAN TELL u all that preve`s sluggishness compared to bold is like DAY and NIGHT. i dunno why but one of motor journalist mention something related to heat management


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