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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Thanks for Everything , Bellamy! YNWA

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post Jun 8 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 8 2012, 03:23 PM)
I dont know why we are going after Diame. He was said to have some health problem in regards with heart. You can google up.
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yeah. heart problem. but he could be a great addition to the team, as a backup DM, for free smile.gif

According to one of the post in anfieldforum,

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Despite only making 18 starts in the 11/12 season, Diame made more tackles (84) than Kompany (65), Terry (56), Cole (80) and Zabaleta (70).

Kompany and Terry and Cole all made 31 appearances in the league.
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post Jun 8 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jun 8 2012, 01:54 PM)
Good post. I agree i don;t really rate Johnson myself. Flash of brilliance but other than that, he's very quiet in most games. If we're gonna go by potential then might as well just stick with Raheem whose already on our payroll. If we're going to spend some money on a new winger then it simply has to be better than potential.
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I think johnson isn't consistent but it is the moments of brilliance that we need.When torres played for us he looked like he was doing nothing,but when he gets a chance the next thing you know the ball is in the back of the net.


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QUOTE(twtang @ Jun 8 2012, 01:59 PM)
Not sure why we are after so many English player? Don't tell me they are serious about building an English version of Barca?
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Adam johnson is the only english player i can accept for this summer.The rest no thanks.

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 8 2012, 04:24 PM)
I think johnson isn't consistent but it is the moments of brilliance that we need.When torres played for us he looked like he was doing nothing,but when he gets a chance the next thing you know the ball is in the back of the net.
Torres was a world class striker for us - scored all manner of goals. I'm not sure A. Johnson can ever reach that kind of level and even the City fans are saying that he's very inconsistent and predictable to boot. Squad player maybe, but key player ? I think we can and must do better than Johnson.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 8 2012, 02:35 PM)
What exactly does the financial fairplay say?
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In short, clubs cannot spend more than they earn. Clubs like City and Chelsea pay exuberant wages and have suffered net losses despite winning silverware.

Here are a couple of articles, one of which I posted earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18248540

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/ma...ue-survey-wages

Note that like Man Utd, we've reduced our wage bill tremendously. This explains why we didn't sign mega stars last year and why we won't this year. There is constantly talk over signing Downing over Mata. While I do admit that Downing has had a poor season, the reason behind signing him instead of Mata could be down to wages. Downing commands around $80,000 from what I know and I imagine Mata gets a fair bit more than that.

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Clarke is WBA new manager.

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post Jun 8 2012, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(w_lun @ Jun 8 2012, 04:17 PM)
yeah. heart problem. but he could be a great addition to the team, as a backup DM, for free smile.gif

According to one of the post in anfieldforum,

Liverpool FC ‏@LiverpooIFCNews
Despite only making 18 starts in the 11/12 season, Diame made more tackles (84) than Kompany (65), Terry (56), Cole (80) and Zabaleta (70).

Kompany and Terry and Cole all made 31 appearances in the league.
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You do notice, Kompany, Cole, Terry and even Zabaleta played at the back and not in the middle right? Most of the ball fighting occurs in middle.
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When Brendan leaves, WBA gonna swoop on Brendan. Jk.
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QUOTE(swks26 @ Jun 8 2012, 05:17 PM)
When Brendan leaves, WBA gonna swoop on Brendan. Jk.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 8 2012, 05:57 PM)
In short, clubs cannot spend more than they earn. Clubs like City and Chelsea pay exuberant wages and have suffered net losses despite winning silverware.

Here are a couple of articles, one of which I posted earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18248540

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/ma...ue-survey-wages

Note that like Man Utd, we've reduced our wage bill tremendously. This explains why we didn't sign mega stars last year and why we won't this year. There is constantly talk over signing Downing over Mata. While I do admit that Downing has had a poor season, the reason behind signing him instead of Mata could be down to wages. Downing commands around $80,000 from what I know and I imagine Mata gets a fair bit more than that.
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With his Bolton contract expiring in the summer, Cahill is aware he can get a big deal – but Chelsea have told the defender to get real. They are prepared to give him £70,000 a week, which is still more than summer signing Juan Mata.


I'm not sure..u refering to £80000 or $80,000..

but Mata wages less than £70,000.. thumbup.gif

Downing wages : Source

Mata wages : Source

I think every club preparing for FFP..people might see Chelsea spend big..but we already release most of the high earners since the last 3 seasons...the highest at chelsea now if i'm not mistaken 150,000 JT, Lampard and maybe Torres..that also the reason why we refuse to sign Aguero..the bid was accepted but the wages demand 200,000... laugh.gif Hazard and a few others signing that we might sign..most of the resources come from UCL prize money and television revenue...

we also close to breakeven our account this season..first since roman era hahahaha biggrin.gif all because of the UCL..without them..yes we might have a big problem preparing for FFP..

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hahaha..good topic.. icon_rolleyes.gif


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Well Deloitte listed a nett loss regardless of who earns more or less. Point is all clubs need to adjust their wage bills. Think you're right on Mata. He doesn't earn all that much.
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Liverpool midfielder Stewart Downing has admitted he felt embarrassed after he ended his debut season at Anfield without scoring.

Downing's disappointment was compounded further, as the 27-year-old was also unable to manage an assist in a year that the £20million man would rather forget.

Signed by Kenny Dalglish last summer, Downing was expected to provide strike duo Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez with the ammunition to fire Liverpool into the higher echelons of the Premier League.


But such success was nothing more than a pipe dream, and Downing has now turned his attention towards rediscovering his best form at the European Championships with England.

The former Aston Villa winger was the only outfield player to feature in all nine England games in 2011, playing in two out of three matches this year for the Three Lions.

And, despite his poor form, Downing is in contention to start the Group D opener against France on Monday.

Speaking to Sky Sports, Downing said: "The fact is I didn't get enough goals.

"I hit the post and the bar many times and missed a few chances so I was disappointed, especially when I scored goals for Aston Villa the year before.

"Sometimes you are on a run and get goals; sometimes you don't. I try to score and maybe next season I will get 10 or 15. Football is like that. But I am disappointed I did not score enough."

Whilst Downing admits to being embarrassed about his lack of goals and assists for Liverpool this season, he insists that too much should not be read into statistics, as they can prove to be misleading.

"Statistics have taken over the game: he doesn't score this, he hasn't set up that. You can read into it as you like," he said. "I've constantly set up chances, season in and season out.

"I can't be criticised for not creating. I've just been unlucky that we've not finished the chances."

Liverpool's season was equally disappointing, as Dalglish's side stumbled to an eighth-place finish with their home form particularly concerning.

Yet, following the late introductions of Jordan Henderson and Martin Kelly, the Reds supply six members of Roy Hodgson's England squad - almost a third of the outfield men.

But Downing is quick to defend his under-fire teammates. He added: "I don't think those six players did that bad - just that, as a whole group, we were not clinical enough. It's all about personal opinions.

"If there were eight Manchester United players in the team and they didn't win the league, would people be asking why they are here?

"As players we have to be mentally strong and concentrate on the good bits of our games because the manager has seen something that shows why we've been picked."

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 8 2012, 04:57 PM)
In short, clubs cannot spend more than they earn. Clubs like City and Chelsea pay exuberant wages and have suffered net losses despite winning silverware.

Here are a couple of articles, one of which I posted earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18248540

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/ma...ue-survey-wages

Note that like Man Utd, we've reduced our wage bill tremendously. This explains why we didn't sign mega stars last year and why we won't this year. There is constantly talk over signing Downing over Mata. While I do admit that Downing has had a poor season, the reason behind signing him instead of Mata could be down to wages. Downing commands around $80,000 from what I know and I imagine Mata gets a fair bit more than that.
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Thanks mate.

Hopefully the rule comes on sooner than later.
The shieks, Ruskie oil mafias are killing the beautiful game with corruption.
But then again, UEFA maybe pressured by these goons.


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QUOTE(swks26 @ Jun 8 2012, 05:17 PM)
When Brendan leaves, WBA gonna swoop on Brendan. Jk.
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is the financial fairplay is on, man city and chelsea will sell their stadium name to get balance of their cashflow. just like man city stadium now which is Etihad stadium. they will find a way to balance their account.
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Liverpool must pay almost £9m if they want to sign Lyon full-back Aly Cissokho.

The former Porto star has long been linked with a move to Anfield, and after Jose Enrique's mixed first season at the club there are rumours that Liverpool could make another bid for the left-back.

And Lyon are willing to sell, but not for much less than the £12.18m than they spent to buy the player from Porto in 2009.

And in a statement Lyon claimed that they will not accept any bid lower than £9m - and with Napoli also keen Liverpool have a decision to make if they are to bring Cissokho to the club.

talkSPORT understands that Newcastle and Everton are also interested in the France international, with the Toffees set to make a move should Leighton Baines leave Goodison Park for Manchester United this summer.


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 9 2012, 08:50 AM)
Thanks mate.

Hopefully the rule comes on sooner than later.
The shieks, Ruskie oil mafias are killing the beautiful game with corruption.
But then again, UEFA maybe pressured by these goons.
QUOTE(Max_07s @ Jun 9 2012, 10:19 AM)
is the financial fairplay is on, man city and chelsea will sell their stadium name to get balance of their cashflow. just like man city stadium now which is Etihad stadium. they will find a way to balance their account.
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That they will but without a period of sustained success, you won't build a large enough fanbase for a consistent flow of income. Even if you want to flog off your naming rights to your stadium, you need to ensure that people see and hear of it. Sponsors will only invest big if you are commercially viable. Standard Chartered and Warrior sports were quick to swoop when we opened our arms and parted ways with Carlsberg and Adidas because we are still amongst the most commercially attractive clubs in the world with a huge fanbase despite being shadowed by the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal over a decade at least. I'm still baffled as to how Adidas could claim that we were asking for too much when we sell the 4th highest number of jerseys in the world behind Barca, Real and the mancs.

Some people say it's all about profit these days but is it really? I mean Man City have made a net loss and so have the likes of Chelsea. Still, they won trophies. If the top brass at say Chelsea owned Arsenal, would Wenger still be there? They may not have won any silverware in a few years but they have never been in the red financially and are consistenly in the top four. Even so, would not winning any silverware for 7-8 years be tolerated at Man City or Chelsea?

As fans, we celebrate and gloat when we beat or rivals in a game or to the title. Isn't it of some concern however that this form of success could be shortlived when you are in the red each year? Is it better to win titles and know that if your owner decides he's had enough of his play thing and wants to move on to something new, he'd drop you with massive debt, OR is it better to always be financially healthy and be content with challenging for a top four spot? Are the two even mutually exclusive?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 9 2012, 01:55 PM)
Some people say it's all about profit these days but is it really? I mean Man City have made a net loss and so have the likes of Chelsea. Still, they won trophies. If the top brass at say Chelsea owned Arsenal, would Wenger still be there? They may not have won any silverware in a few years but they have never been in the red financially and are consistenly in the top four. Even so, would not winning any silverware for 7-8 years be tolerated at Man City or Chelsea?
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OR is it better to always be financially healthy and be content with challenging for a top four spot? Are the two even mutually exclusive?
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Frankly speaking, Liverpool financial is not good either for the last few year.
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Liverpool make £49.4m yearly loss

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17945252

Wages bill is not cheap as well.
With 120 million pounds, despite not many super star players. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...se-7715141.html

A lot of club are running at loss which is not something healthy, only a handful is making a profit, one of them is Arsenal.
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Downing earning more than mata shocking.gif

Thanks alot kenny rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 9 2012, 04:59 PM)
Downing earning more than mata shocking.gif

Thanks alot kenny rolleyes.gif
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That was one of the reasons KD have to go ironically........

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