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limeuu
post Jan 6 2013, 10:00 PM

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yes, as long as you pay the fees, some med schools will accept ccc or lower....

which is why 2 years ago, mmc had to draw up guidelines on what the minimum qualifications should be.....and they placed 5b at spm in sciences/math and bbb at stpm/3.0 at matrik as minimum.....

that is why many ipts now cannot fill up places, as there is a lack of people with money AND minimum qualifications...they do 'accept' weaker applicants, and tell them to 'appeal' to mmc....

what happens when someone with ccc graduates with a medical degree and wants to get registration, nobody knows as yet....

the simplest solution for the ipts med schools is to conduct their own 'foundation' and give all their students '3.0'.......


Added on January 6, 2013, 10:05 pm
QUOTE(Raymond7693 @ Jan 6 2013, 07:37 PM)
no my question is do student with those results get accepted??if so whr??....im duin computer science...i wana noe well for the sake of knowing
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sake of knowing?..... really?....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2657368&hl=

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post Jan 7 2013, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 6 2013, 05:06 PM)
Hi.
My friend wants to know let's say he gets a LOCAL medical degree from IMU.
As far as i know, IMU's local medical degree is only recognised by Malaysia and Sri Lanka government.
Can he do his specialist/master in UK?
Because his IMU local degree only is only recognised here and not UK.
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 03:59 PM)
I took this from IMU's Medical brochure.
"Many Malaysian doctors who attend the local course also sit the membership
examinations of the UK colleges and thus end up with postgraduate qualifications
from the UK as well."


I am not questioning your answer, I understand that reality may sometimes be different.
But why do you say NO,he can't do his specialist/master in UK?
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these are different things......and don't confuse the two.....

any doctor from a listed uni (and there are several 'lists') can register and sit for the exams, once they satisfy pre-requisites.....

'doing specialisation (there is NO such thing as 'masters' as specialist qualification in uk) in uk' means WORKING there, and that is not possible, as the imu degree is not recognised there, therefore not registrable...albeit one can sit for the plab test and if passed, can register with gmc....


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post Jan 7 2013, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 04:37 PM)
OK. I have another enquiry.
What about Penang Medical College's programme?
Their Medical Degree is recognised by Ireland.
Is it possible to do post graduate in UK?
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ireland is a completely different country from the uk...

the pmc irish degree is NOT recognised by the gmc....therefore no, cannot work in uk....

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post Jan 7 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 05:33 PM)
Quote from PMC's website:
"The MB BCh BAO degrees are recognised by the IMC (Irish Medical Council), MMC (Malaysian Medical Council), Sri Lankan Medical Council as well as other regulatory bodies throughout the world. The degrees allow the holder to pursue postgraduate training worldwide."

But the PMC option isn't better than a local IMU degree,no?
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note that gmc is NOT mentioned....

the pmc degree has one extra country that recognises it over imu-mbbs....ie ireland....

note that it is now almost impossible for pmc graduates to get a housemanship job in ireland due shortages of places.....
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post Jan 7 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jan 7 2013, 05:22 PM)
I doubt the PMC degree is recognised in Ireland. It is something like Manipal with the pre-clinical in Ireland and the the clinicals in Penang. The quality of PMC is no longer the same compared with those of 5 years ago.
the pmc irish degree is recognised in ireland...that does not mean graduates can work there, as working means finding a JOB.....which is extremely difficult now....going forward, even those internationals who studied fully in ireland may not find intern jobs in ireland, as is happening in australia, and going to happen in uk.....
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post Jan 7 2013, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 05:48 PM)
One can sit for the plab test, and if...
Let's say i pass the test, is it LIKELY that i get to work in the UK

2nd Question:
I get a local degree from Malaysia(IMU), let's say i want to be a specialist.
Can i study my "specialist" in UK?

3rd Question:
Why is the St George University route via Taylor's unpopular?Any idea?
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1: no

2: no

3: too strict. They want minimum 3a at a levels, AND acceptable performance while at taylors....that weeds out the majority of intending students.....might as well go imu-pms(easier to get in, no need 3a, more choices) or direct entry into uk.....
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post Jan 7 2013, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 05:57 PM)
....Which means if you have a local IMU medical degree.
Your can only study your specialist here in Malaysia?
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i think people will have to accept that a msian medical qualification (including foreign degrees obtained in msia) means restriction to work in msia only.....forget about overseas....

exception being spore recognising um/ukm degrees.....
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post Jan 7 2013, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 05:51 PM)
Ok. Noted.
But isn't it the same for housemanship jobs in UK?
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yes...numed graduates will be unlikely to be able to work in uk...

for those in uk med schools, all 2012 graduates who applied for fy got placements.....placement results for 2013 will only come out next month, based on the numbers, probably all will also get jobs...but projected numbers for 2014 suggest some may NOT get placement from there on....
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it is (well, was) in their website...

the requirement is from st georges, not taylors...they have allocation for 5 places, but they don't have to take any, if there is none qualified....

i don't know why people are not keen....it is actually pretty easy to get 3a....some uk med schools are already requiring (still relatively easy) a*aa.....anyone with less than 3a should NOT be allowed to do medicine.....

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if you don't have 3a, you are automatically excluded from the st georges pathway....
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 06:20 PM)
But isn't that a little bit unfair?
St George is essentially saying "You were not that good once, i do not care how good you are now, we do not want you."
Besides, i have another question.
Can an IMU local medical degree holder study(not work) his specialist in Australia?
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why unfair?....they are not in the business of giving 2nd chances....there are more than enough candidates with better than 3a results to choose their students from.....
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post Jan 7 2013, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 06:28 PM)
Working 4 years in the government which is compulsory in Malaysia.
Here's the part I want to know.
Can you do your POSTGRADUATE DEGREE
(Master, MRCP, FRCS, etc) in UK or Australia with an IMU local degree and

If Yes
2nd question:
After getting your postgraduate degree from the respective country, is it likely that you get to WORK in that country?
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i told you already, there is no such thing as a specialist masters in uk...

and i told you already, with an imu degree you cannot do postgraduate training elsewhere....

however, you can do the mrcp exam....

and 2nd question, no.....ability to register qualification is dependent on the primary qualification....therefore cannot work.....

note that these 'specialist qualifications' like mrcp, frcs, fracp etc does NOT qualify one to be a specialist in these countries....in the uk, you need the cct cert from gmc....
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post Jan 7 2013, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Snowcar @ Jan 7 2013, 09:35 PM)
Hey medical students,
I have a doubt here. If I want to do MBBS, which pre-u study should I choose?
Some say A-Levels and some say Foundation in Science.
I'm so confused. I seriously need opinions from seniors sad.gif Please help...
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you already said elsewhere you want to aim for monash medicine, and want to do mufy....why are you asking again?...
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post Jan 7 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 10:08 PM)
OK. I am a bit confused.
I will keep it simple.
Let's say I want to be a Skin Specialist.
I've done my IMU medical degree and i've served the government for 4 years.
I need to further my studies rite?
This is the part where i am confused, can i further my studies in UK/AUS?
If you think my question is repetitive, do not answer.
I just want clarification on the matter.
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there is no confusion, you just refused to believe...

the answer is still NO...
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post Jan 10 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jan 10 2013, 11:26 AM)
Aah.. its SHARIPAH with a 'P'... no wonder I cant find her registration...
I hope she has insurance-coverage for this....

Proof that medicine is a risky job... which made me think... which recognized specialty has the least risk of getting sued?
Psychiatry perhaps?  biggrin.gif
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public health.....
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post Jan 10 2013, 12:08 PM

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that case by datuk hii has no basis.....he was appropriately advised, and was given the option of follow up assessment....he took the option to proceed for surgery...

steve job's situation may have influenced his decision.....

i doubt if the court will allow it to proceed....
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post Jan 10 2013, 04:07 PM

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there is one big difference between a jetliner and a human....

the jetliner is a mechanical machine and predictable....the human body is NOT....
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post Jan 10 2013, 07:45 PM

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this may be a good opportunity for medical students here to read a bit about neuroendocrine tumours in the pancrease and the issues involved in their treatment.

once you understand the issues, you will understand why sometimes (not infrequently, as tqeh noted) this happens. it is NOT wrong diagnosis, but just demonstrates the difficulties in predicting what the future may be......like many things in human lives, a judgement call is needed, and it can NEVER be always correct, unlike the check list for an aircraft.....

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post Jan 11 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jan 11 2013, 08:48 PM)
Forgot to add - my experience: Private Dental care cost India vs Malaysia

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1226085/all

... which begs the question, why ours is so expensive???
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wait till you need dental care in oz or the us.....

they can fly into msia for a holiday, have root canal done, and still have change compared to what they need to pay at home....

so when are msians going to fly to india for dental treatment?..... smile.gif
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Jan 15 2013, 11:46 PM)
Just to add.

Cucms has apparently revised their medical school fee from 200k to 375k for the entire 5 year program.

75% increase of cost laugh.gif

Pending accreditation from MQA after the fiasco some more.

I am starting to think that Med school now are meat grinders to earn money, instead of really educating.
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starting?.....i thought some of us have been warning long before, about what private education and ptptn loans are in reality....and the top money spinner for businessman in education is medical education.....

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