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post Jun 28 2016, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jun 28 2016, 09:13 AM)
That GH where my relative is posted to still has a shortage of housemen nothwithstanding a fairly big intake recently. Some are privileged to do very little while others are push to the limits.

Good experience though. Daily key words include Stupid, Idiots, No Brain, Never think, What did you study coming from Specialists and MOs during daily presentations.
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Was this during relative's elective? How demoralising to hear those "daily key words". I don't suppose relative is opting to come back in the near future.
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post Jun 28 2016, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jun 28 2016, 04:13 PM)
This is the elder  one who has completed and serving as houseman now. Giving him encouragement to get use to the system.
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Opted to come back or went to medical school in Malaysia?
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post Aug 17 2016, 11:40 PM

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FYI, there's clearing places for medicine at St George's and PLymouth!
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post Feb 3 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(confirm @ Feb 3 2017, 10:02 AM)
Investigation outcome would be interesting.

Ps. This thread is slightly alive again.

A bit late, but Happy New Year to all. smile.gif
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post Feb 3 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Feb 3 2017, 10:29 AM)
The whites are also human and not to be surprised. Things changed with time and what applies 20 years ago is no longer the case. Its a battle of survival and racism is very very ugly indeed.
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That is true. Look at the mess in America now, alternative media or otherwise.

Re emergency medicine, apparently training spots quite easy to get. Relative interested in this specialty?
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post Feb 3 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Feb 3 2017, 03:28 PM)
Dont think so but things are still fluid. Maybe wait until complete all the postings.
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It seems there's more "not keen on this specialty" than "keen on this specialty" at this stage...whether or not one can get into the preferred one is another ball game altogether. smile.gif
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post Feb 4 2017, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Feb 3 2017, 10:28 PM)
True. Looks like it's easier to get the preferred specialty at the bigger hospitals. But before that getting a MO place at a desired hospital is a priority but have to accept also if placed elsewhere.
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Any idea how long the Tier 2 visa is valid for? Or rather, how long is the sponsorship from HEE? Just CT1 and CT2? Other Tier 2 visas are valid for 5 years and 14 months, subject to sponsorship.
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post Feb 5 2017, 10:45 AM

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Checked with relative who basically echoed what Jckc and limeuu wrote.
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post Feb 5 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(confirm @ Feb 5 2017, 10:33 AM)
Assuming one is able to secure entry to both UK and OZ medical schools ,which is a better option taking into consideration of internship places and specialty training opportunities ?

Virtually all my relatives and friends opt for UK. However their views are mainly based on the assumption that UK education is superior.
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As of today, UK is the better option, as training opportunities are fair across home and international graduates. Brexit is a bit of a blessing, in this regard. Also, most parents who studied in the UK would prefer to send their offsprings back to the UK despite how they "suffered" then. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 5 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(confirm @ Feb 5 2017, 09:13 PM)
Is there a current pathway available to OZ/NZ medical graduates to apply for training in UK after completion of their internship ? Brexit will help.....?

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This would fall under "international Medical graduates". Check for CT1 training eligibility. Note that CT1 is after 2 years of foundation training. Not sure if this helps. Of course you need to be employed, in the first place.

http://www.gmc-uk.org/information_for_you/...n_factsheet.asp

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post Feb 5 2017, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Jckc @ Feb 5 2017, 10:25 PM)
as above mentioned,
its possible, however the opportunites wont be great because there are priotisation over to local graduates and possibly still eu grads as well and you have to sit for plab.
with the exception of gp training of course which is easier to enter.
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Jckc, what are you leaning towards? Medical or surgical? You're in 4th year now?
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post Feb 6 2017, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(Jckc @ Feb 5 2017, 11:23 PM)
More towards medical haha. Im at the end of my general surgery rotation and i found it to be quite bland after awhile with all the appendicitis and gall bladder stuff in general and im not in particular interested in hands on surgery.

yup 4th year but im at end of my first clinical year. so one more clinical year to go. smile.gif
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Have fun, all the best. Was told every F1 lose weight and tends to look rather skeletal after 6 months...haha.
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post Feb 6 2017, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Feb 6 2017, 09:09 AM)
Sorry, I was referring to the local scenario. As far as UK is concerned, I trust she will be able to decide what's best for her. I have not really look into the visa options but she will refer to me if she needs feedback. Whatever, I think I need to find out more.
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Yes, I wondered about the "MO" comment.

Re UK, I think they will know their F1 jobs next month, and then they apply for extension to their Tier 4 visa thereafter. I read up because relative is very "economical" with his words and info.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 6 2017, 12:15 PM)
1st round offers come out in february in the past....but since there will be no reserve list this year, they may delay it a bit...

once you are offered and accepted the offer, your destination deanery will help you with the documents necessary for applying for the tier 4 visa extension...it's mostly a formality...
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Thank you!

Out of interest, what is the specialist training pathway (medical) in Australia like? If an international Oz grad gets an internship posting, will he/she then be able to apply through on equal footing with the aussies?
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post Feb 6 2017, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 6 2017, 01:10 PM)
oz post graduate training is much more restricted than uk....

the restriction is based on the visa you are on....internationals staying on for internship uses the 457 work visa.....That allows a maximun of 4 years stay, under sponsorship by accredited employers....but after the intenship, when you start looking for rmo jobs, priority will be given to residents (ie citizens and prs) before they offer jobs to work visa doctors...

generally they do not take in non residents for surgical training....and for gp trainings, you cannot do training in metropolitan rotations if you are NOT a resident when you started your medical school....

therefore the priority for most people is to quickly apply for a pr (189) visa once they are eligible, ie after full registration on completion of internship....

once you are a pr, you are on par, and selected on the basis of merit...(with the same proviso for gp training)....
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So one can apply for PR status much earlier, compared to UK's 10 years stay condition. That's a good thing then. So the critical step would be to land an internship post after graduation. Thanks for the info. Australia still a better place to live, IMO.
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post Feb 8 2017, 01:21 PM

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What are the current competitive UKCAT and A level scores to secure offers from UK schools ?  Is SPM/ O level result and medical related experiences critical ?
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A very useful forum is: thestudentroom.co.uk. IIRC they have a general thread, and then individual medical school thread. It should be quite active at this time of the year, as offers will normally be made in March. Applicants should be discussing results, scores, interview invites etc.
Actually, academic results aside, personal statement is critical, as this determines if they are keen enough on the applicant to invite round for a chat.
I think for A levels, min is probably A*AA now, although most (esp Asians) had/have 3 or 4 A*.
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post Feb 8 2017, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Feb 8 2017, 09:10 AM)
My relative is there doing the final year. The locked-in fee 5 years ago was 28500 pounds per year and can cover 2 years at Queens.
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What a relief to be able to write "final year"...for me anyway. LOL. Got your air tickets for July?
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post Feb 8 2017, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(confirm @ Feb 8 2017, 03:26 PM)
From reading The Student Room ,UK locals usually disclosed hospital attachment  and volunteering activities in their application. For Malaysians ,these are not so easy to obtain...are they important ?
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Shadow family and/ or friends in the profession, and be able to write about the experience in an interesting manner, I think.

Prepping another relative? 😀
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post Apr 20 2017, 11:45 PM

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While we have a surplus of doctors (untrained), the UK has the opposite problem. I've just watched "Confessions of a Junior Doctor".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/04/19/c...yone-cares-nhs/
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post Apr 21 2017, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Jckc @ Apr 21 2017, 02:43 AM)
haha DGHs like northampton are facing tons of pressure due to fewer junior docs and rota gaps.
Personally I havent been there yet but the other DGHs around east midlands (and whole of uk potentially) face similar issues such as one HO and one reg does the on call for the whole hospital and etc
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What's the difference, if any, between DGH and university hospitals?

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