Hey guys 4th year med student here. Anyone here from public university? (i.e USM, UKM,UM) What are your plans after graduating? Anyone here planning to do masters overseas?

i would suggest that all medical students survive and complete the housemanship first, before talking about anything further into the future...current statics shows 30% cannot complete housemanship on time (ie retained in one of more postings)....and 5-10% actually failed to complete...ie dropped out....

it is worrying when 4th year medical students have very poor knowledge about the profession they will soon be a part of....

hunther has refused to answer what he means by "masters overseas", but from the context of the question, he probably means postgraduate training overseas, and assumed it's also "masters" like msia....and from the question, he is likely from an ipta...

fact 1: doing a "masters" somewhere overseas is NOT a specialist qualification....

fact 2: the majority of msian medical degrees are not recognised out of malaysia....

fact 3: medical postgraduate training is NOT attending a course like undergraduate medicine, but a full time work and part time study commitment....key word is WORK...

fact 4: if you are not registrable, you CANNOT work as a doctor....and if you cannot work, you cannot undergo postgraduate/specialist training....

a good read at pagalavan.com will be useful, maybe buy his books...will clear up all the misconceptions....

the training of a doctor in the old days was an apprenticeship...that is time tested, and it should still be...unfortunately, modern education, especially many "money making degree mills" have converted it into an academic exercise....

in good medical schools in well managed health care systems, it still is, and the process of transition from student to doctor blurs as they involve students early in the management of patients....

as an example, in australia, final year medical students are assigned to a firm/team, and in effect function like junior housemans...they clerk in the patients, and initiate investigations and treatment plans...all on the actual case notes...but of course, they are not registered practitioners, so all these will have to be vetted and countersigned by usually a registrar grade doctor.....the transition to an intern ( as they call houseman) is thus seamless...they just continue doing what they have been doing...

that is why, choosing a good medical school, in a good health care delivery system, is important...but then, the majority of msian med students will not qualify to enter these med schools in developed economies like uk/oz/spore anyway....even if money is not a problem...simply because they will not pass the stringent selection process these med schools practice....

Factual knowledge is not as important as working attitude, but it is still required.

Some HO thinks statins are anti hypertensive.

Is it necessary to go for premium service in the application for a Tier 4 visa?

It is pretty expensive at 1,000 pounds. Relative was informed that if not premium service, passport can get lost.

Is it necessary to have the "official results"? Apparently she has made an appointment to see them on
Friday. Relative is pretty independent and does a lot of things on her own and only ask when necessary esp $$$  

Understand that fyi is commencing end of July.

Will check with her on the need for premium service. 550 pounds can do a lot more shopping in London.

Its one of the hospitals about 40 mins from where she is staying. Happy with what she got. Some got Aberdeen and Dundee which is quite a distance away.

Was told that nearly all the IMU scholars are also doing the fyi, though they will report to JPA first and and go back to UK. Will return if asked to by JPA, I doubt JPA will be interested in the current scenario. Unless JPA want to send them to East Malaysia. Was also told that rotations done in UK can be offset against period of housemanship. Not sure about this but I think at this time preference is for a longer contract period and not a shorter stint.

You are going end of June or early July?

I will be there end of June.

Time really flies. Last trip there was at the beginning of the 5 years. This time just squeezed 3 weeks in.

Good that all graduates got placement and not like couple of years ago where there was worry that there may not be enough places available.

Oh sorry, I thought no issue with placements. Didn't hear anything from relative. Podrunner relative and mine also got the preferred choice.

Yeah, just a question. Do these graduate doctors get any allowances on top of the designated salary? Like those in Malaysia, where allowances can amount to 60% of the basic salary.

There will not be time for locum work, except for the occasional covering of colleagues who call in sick at the last moment....

Previous to the NHS doctors contract revision in England, housemans will usually be in a rotation which will be rated with a 50 or 45% loading depending on the banding of that particular job...that is an averaging calculation to account for the portion of the standard 75hrs/fortnight worked outside 'normal" hours....

Ewtd does not allow for longer work time....but the job requirement mandates doctors to work long hours for stretches....this is even out by mandating time off outside annual leaves...so you will have situations where you work long hours for a 3 week stretch, then given 10 days off the roster to keep within the ewtd....

She also got the rotation that she wanted for the first one and it was about 1.5 months ago. Seems happy about it.

She went for the premium service and was approved on the same day. Now waiting for biometric resident card, which  she need it as she is traveling to the US next week. Never ask her why she need the resident card to travel.

She chose the premium service as some other students and the group of IMU students also opt for the same service. Probably she thought it was safer rather than the odd one out. Not sure if it comes from their own pockets, they will do the same.

Oh, he is back for holidays. Good to be back before going back to start his working life. I told my relative that phase is more difficult compared to her studies period.

Will check and let you know. A lot of things also acted on her own.

Recently told her to apply credit card but bank did not approve. Ask the advisor for reasons but said not sure why.

Maybe told bank that she has finished the course, that's why bank reluctant to give. Maybe with tier 4 visa and pay slip, then hopefully easier to get.

Was told that without credit card, cannot drive in US, even with valid international driving license. Anybody can help?

Got this roughly.
Upload passport and visa to website, get CAS then submit application. Evidence of passing also need to be submitted. Hope it helps.

hmm, glasgow has already closed their clearing and is already filled up in st georges. I heard Liverpool went to clearing as well.

I wonder whats the main reason behind it. was it the exorbitant fees or was it something else like the state of NHS.