Done. Well, 2nd post, still 1st page

Early on in your career, your bargaining power tends to be on the low side. The best way would be to find out what is the pay range for somebody in Singapore in your industry with your skills/experience, and use that as a guide.

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Added on July 11, 2012, 2:02 pm
My landlord is Malay auntie. I speak to her in BM also she automatically reply me in English hehe.

This post has been edited by deodorant: Jul 11 2012, 02:02 PM

when i first came to sg, I didnt know singaproean cant speak malay cause their national anthem was in malay! Only found out when I was having lunch with my new singaporean colleague when I casually use some malay words in my conversation. They couldnt understand me, then only did I know they dont speak Malay. Even malays here speak English.



Just last month, I went to Punggol point for a walk, pretty popular fishing spot. I saw a few funny looking trap, and asked them what was it (in English), then they mentioned crab. The malay boy jokingly mentioned to his other friend "budak ni tak pernah tengok perangkap ketam".



Then I took a pic of it and replied "Boleh ker? Ni boleh tangkap ketam? Ada ketam kat sini?". The boys looked at each other and started laughing cause I speak malay! Before I left, I told them, "I orang Malaysia la"

well...maybe it is a strategy by companies to try paying less...i had that also.
or maybe u are just overpaid in m'sia and i am underpaid.

This post has been edited by yhoong12: Jul 11 2012, 02:14 PM

guys a quick question.

i signed my new employer offer letter already. they already gave me the letter to go for medical check up etc.

they applied for my pass. i checked online just now, and it says my pass is approved. so does this mean all is well and done? so technically its completed right?

im just really excited for my new job. and dont wanna put my hopes so high up if its still not really time to celebrate

yup that's why i was wondering maybe they know this would be my first job in singapore so they want to pay less

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Added on July 11, 2012, 2:34 pmi guess i'll stomach the lower pay for a while first before i get another better paying job.

This post has been edited by TzeThon: Jul 11 2012, 02:34 PM

all is well and done when u pass your medical.
until then, all is not well yet.
a failed medical can cause a reversal in pass approval which can cause the offer letter to be invalid.
that is the worst case scenario..but nothing to worry about.

ya that's always the case. companies would rather hire someone who is asking for a lower pay when both have the same qualifications.
this happens in KL as well. sigh.

hehehe thanks broooo!

when i read the 2nd line, a split second thought to my self *i knew it* hahah

im as healthy as an ox..i dont do drugs.

so i think that should be easy peasy....

Hi, recently i look through the room for rent website, and i found out that there is a option call co-broke... anyone have any idea what is this about?

what do they usually check for?

based on the checkup letter provided by my company.

xray
hiv
urine test

i might have missed out 1 more thing ...but this is what i remember seeing.

my last checkup ...didnt require the HIV test.

Co-broke means, tenant hv to pay commission (half month) to agent (agent represent yourself astenant) and landlord will pay half to his. Note that in Sg, agent not suppose to act for both parties. They can only take commission from one party.

blood test (HIV test to be exact), & lungs.

they practically answered u


the chest xray is for lungs scanning for tb.

not really leh. "Co broke" on a listing isn't really a message for the (prospective) tenant. It is a message to other agents that this particular listing already got tenant and landlord agents, so a "third" agent is not welcome.

But i thought with or w/o Co broke, we still need to pay agent half month commission if we get the room thru agent?

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Added on July 11, 2012, 2:56 pmSo from what i understand for your sentence, if they state welcome Co-broke, mean they allow agent to help them? right?

This post has been edited by yhoong12: Jul 11 2012, 02:56 PM

Nope...if no agent...then no need to pay agent fees....welcome co-broke doesn't means cannot be direct tenant/owner mah....

Yes, you are right. I thought he meant for tenant. if mentioned "Already co-broke". But Co-Broke to tenant doesnt it also mean, commission is payable?

Under the new law, if I am not wrong, agent not suppose to take commission from both parties. Not sure does it also cover rental or only for sales & purchase.

That confuse me, so now what is Co-broke? and welcome Co-broke mean??

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Added on July 11, 2012, 3:08 pmoo, because from what i saw, their either stated there Co-broke : welcome or did'nt mention at all. this is really confusing...

This post has been edited by yhoong12: Jul 11 2012, 03:08 PM

well, for example a landlord engage an agent, let's call him Agent A. then this agent go and pakat with his friend (also agent, called Agent B). Agent B then goes and lists the property on some website somewhere and he says "sorry agents, already co-broke" on the listing.

now enter you as the prospective tenant. If you see the listing, you call up Agent B, then if the deal goes through, Agent B will represent you and Agent A will represent the landlord.

or let's say that you lazy to do your own searching, and you engage an agent (agent C) to help you search. This Agent C will not even consider this property at all, because Agents A and B have already agreed to co-broke the deal together.

On the other hand, if the listing says "co-broke welcome," then it's a different scenario. In this case, Agent A has not made any exclusive arrangement with any other agent, so Agents B and C (and D, E, F ... Z) are all welcome to bring their prospective tenants to deal.