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earl-ku
post May 24 2012, 02:49 AM

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Guys, am new to m43 ... i have a question here
Since the Pana 20mm f1.7 is quite pricey ...

Should i get a 2nd hand Olympus 17mm or should i just go ahead and get a 50mm Nikon or Canon lens and get an adapter ...

Whats the downside of using such lenses on an m43? no AF? no control of aperture?

What else should i be bothered with?
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post May 24 2012, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(earl-ku @ May 24 2012, 02:49 AM)
Guys, am new to m43 ... i have a question here
Since the Pana 20mm f1.7 is quite pricey ...

Should i get a 2nd hand Olympus 17mm or should i just go ahead and get a 50mm Nikon or Canon lens and get an adapter ...

Whats the downside of using such lenses on an m43? no AF? no control of aperture?

What else should i be bothered with?
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Olympus 17mm is good but the aperture only 1 stop from kit lens which kinda pointless unless u seek for compactness of d lens.

Yes u will only can Manual focus with those lens..not sure for the aperture but for Nikon 50mm that come with aperture ring, you might need manual adjust too.

Why don't you consider some old M42 lens? it is pretty good and cheap too, I have one helios 58mm f2 which served me well.
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post May 24 2012, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(earl-ku @ May 24 2012, 02:49 AM)
Guys, am new to m43 ... i have a question here
Since the Pana 20mm f1.7 is quite pricey ...

Should i get a 2nd hand Olympus 17mm or should i just go ahead and get a 50mm Nikon or Canon lens and get an adapter ...

Whats the downside of using such lenses on an m43? no AF? no control of aperture?

What else should i be bothered with?
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Using a non-4/3 lens such as Nikon and Canon will not autofocus.
If you're not concerned with the auto-focus, just get those legacy lenses+adapter. I used couple of OM lenses and it's fun to use.



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post May 24 2012, 09:11 AM

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hmm.. kinda weird to be deciding between 2 such different focal lengths. i assume you are bound by a certain budget in the decision? perhaps also let us know what range you prepared to spend so that the answers are more realistic.

anyway, the m.zuiko 17mm 2.8 is a good general lens. main thing going for it is price and compactness. one seller in Garage Sales letting go at RM450 ... good value (if condition of lens is good).

as for using Nikkor on m4/3 bodies (i have not tested EF lenses on m4/3)... here's a summary :-

- adapters mostly acts as physical mount so there is no electronic contact between the lens and camera after mounting.
- features like AF, auto aperture control is not available.
- you can only set the aperture if the lens has an aperture ring
- there are some adapters claiming to have circuitry to control the aperture of G lens (which does not have aperture rings)
- focusing is manual and although manageable might feel a bit inconvenient if you are used to AF only usage. have to zoom the Live View for more precise focusing especially if you are snapping at large aperture
- you can practically only use A and M mode


btw, a 50mm is effectively giving u a 100mm view ... and doing manual focusing handheld thru the Live View without stable support like tripod (where the display is zoomed 5-14x to assist more precise focus) ... err ... can be a challenge unsure.gif


QUOTE(earl-ku @ May 24 2012, 02:49 AM)
Guys, am new to m43 ... i have a question here
Since the Pana 20mm f1.7 is quite pricey ...

Should i get a 2nd hand Olympus 17mm or should i just go ahead and get a 50mm Nikon or Canon lens and get an adapter ...

Whats the downside of using such lenses on an m43? no AF? no control of aperture?

What else should i be bothered with?
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This post has been edited by yangkuo: May 24 2012, 09:19 AM
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post May 24 2012, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(yangkuo @ May 24 2012, 09:11 AM)
hmm.. kinda weird to be deciding between 2 such different focal lengths.  i assume you are bound by a certain budget in the decision?  perhaps also let us know what range you prepared to spend so that the answers are more realistic.

anyway, the m.zuiko 17mm 2.8 is a good general lens.  main thing going for it is price and compactness.  one seller in Garage Sales letting go at RM450 ... good value (if condition of lens is good).

as for using Nikkor on m4/3 bodies (i have not tested EF lenses on m4/3)... here's a summary :-

- adapters mostly acts as physical mount so there is no electronic contact between the lens and camera after mounting. 
- features like AF, auto aperture control is not available.
- you can only set the aperture if the lens has an aperture ring
- there are some adapters claiming to have circuitry to control the aperture of G lens (which does not have aperture rings)
- focusing is manual and although manageable might feel a bit inconvenient if you are used to AF only usage.  have to zoom the Live View for more precise focusing especially if you are snapping at large aperture
- you can practically only use A and M mode
btw, a 50mm is effectively giving u a 100mm view ... and doing manual focusing handheld thru the Live View without stable support like tripod (where the display is zoomed 5-14x to assist more precise focus) ... err ... can be a challenge unsure.gif
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i have to add...
MF on m4/3 doesnt feel natural enuff...
i m very used to MF...from film SLR to DSLR, from film RF to Digital RF....
but on the m4/3...MF feels awkward...
even with the assist and IS...
so i say try it first...u may like it...or u'll just totally hate it...

as for me...i m still trying to get hold of the MF technique on m4/3... biggrin.gif
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post May 24 2012, 09:43 AM

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speaking of that, so far only certain M mount lens i have feels more natural when used on m4/3. and that's also bcos of zone focusing *hehe*

if olympus bodies had the feature to half press shutter to get out of the zoomed-in manual focus assist "mode" ... that would help immensely already.


QUOTE(xandman @ May 24 2012, 09:25 AM)
i have to add...
MF on m4/3 doesnt feel natural enuff...
i m very used to MF...from film SLR to DSLR, from film RF to Digital RF....
but on the m4/3...MF feels awkward...
even with the assist and IS...
so i say try it first...u may like it...or u'll just totally hate it...

as for me...i m still trying to get hold of the MF technique on m4/3... biggrin.gif
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This post has been edited by yangkuo: May 24 2012, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(yangkuo @ May 24 2012, 09:43 AM)
speaking of that, so far only certain M mount lens i have feels more natural when used on m4/3.  and that's also bcos of zone focusing  *hehe*

if olympus bodies had the feature to half press shutter to get out of the zoomed-in manual focus assist "mode" ... that would help immensely already.
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Agreed ... used to play with M mount lens, it's fun. thumbup.gif Manual should be awesome and easy for those who has E-M5 brows.gif
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post May 24 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 23 2012, 11:45 PM)
hahaha GF2 can do that too, also GF3 i think brows.gif
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QUOTE(yangkuo @ May 24 2012, 09:43 AM)
speaking of that, so far only certain M mount lens i have feels more natural when used on m4/3.  and that's also bcos of zone focusing  *hehe*

if olympus bodies had the feature to half press shutter to get out of the zoomed-in manual focus assist "mode" ... that would help immensely already.
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You can do that in OM-D

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post May 24 2012, 01:00 PM

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Hie guys, how do i attach other type of lens on my pana gx1? Need some converter or smthing like tht?


Added on May 24, 2012, 1:01 pmHie guys, how do i attach other type of lens on my pana gx1? Need some converter or smthing like tht?

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post May 24 2012, 01:20 PM

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you'll need to buy the appropriate mount adapter for whichever type of lens mount you want to attach to m4/3.

eg. to use OM lens, u need a OM -> m/43 adapter, to use a 4/3 lens u need a 4/3 -> m4/3 adapter, etc


but beware not all lenses can be or are safe to be mounted even if the the mount type adapter is available.

some features of will also be unavailable (usually) eg. auto focus, auto aperture

i would suggest you research on the particular lenses u interested to use on GX1 1st... then see if others have reported good results on it.


QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 24 2012, 01:00 PM)
Hie guys, how do i attach other type of lens on my pana gx1? Need some converter or smthing like tht?


Added on May 24, 2012, 1:01 pmHie guys, how do i attach other type of lens on my pana gx1? Need some converter or smthing like tht?
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This post has been edited by yangkuo: May 24 2012, 01:24 PM
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post May 24 2012, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(mcgyver @ May 24 2012, 12:54 PM)
You can do that in OM-D
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how?! biggrin.gif
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post May 24 2012, 01:30 PM

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Some pics from my Penang trip using GX1 with kit lens

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post May 24 2012, 01:59 PM

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nice kevin i like the first pic !
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post May 24 2012, 02:22 PM

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post May 24 2012, 02:53 PM

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aiks i`m trying to share some pic but how come cannot attach ar guys?
I can if i start a new post at garage sales...
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post May 24 2012, 03:35 PM

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Olympus 75mm F1.8 USD 900!!

http://dygadget.blogspot.com/2012/05/olymp...-for-micro.html

Expensive ahhh >,<
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QUOTE(jloi @ May 24 2012, 03:35 PM)
Olympus 75mm F1.8 USD 900!!

http://dygadget.blogspot.com/2012/05/olymp...-for-micro.html

Expensive ahhh >,<
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post May 24 2012, 03:39 PM

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more review on the 75MM F1.8

Exclusive: Hands-on preview of the new Olympus m.Zuiko 75mm f/1.8

http://fourthirds-user.com/2012/05/exclusi...ko_75mm_f18.php


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Anyone know what is the best price for pana lumix g 100-300mm f4-5.6 in the market?...
Tempted with this super zoom...

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