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earl-ku
post May 24 2012, 02:49 AM

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Guys, am new to m43 ... i have a question here
Since the Pana 20mm f1.7 is quite pricey ...

Should i get a 2nd hand Olympus 17mm or should i just go ahead and get a 50mm Nikon or Canon lens and get an adapter ...

Whats the downside of using such lenses on an m43? no AF? no control of aperture?

What else should i be bothered with?
earl-ku
post May 24 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ May 24 2012, 08:06 AM)
Olympus 17mm is good but the aperture only 1 stop from kit lens which kinda pointless unless u seek for compactness of d lens.

Yes u will only can Manual focus with those lens..not sure for the aperture but for Nikon 50mm that come with aperture ring, you might need manual adjust too.

Why don't you consider some old M42 lens? it is pretty good and cheap too, I have one helios 58mm f2 which served me well.
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QUOTE(mcgyver @ May 24 2012, 08:56 AM)
Using a non-4/3 lens such as Nikon and Canon will not autofocus.
If you're not concerned with the auto-focus, just get those legacy lenses+adapter. I used couple of OM lenses and it's fun to use.
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QUOTE(yangkuo @ May 24 2012, 09:11 AM)
hmm.. kinda weird to be deciding between 2 such different focal lengths.  i assume you are bound by a certain budget in the decision?  perhaps also let us know what range you prepared to spend so that the answers are more realistic.

anyway, the m.zuiko 17mm 2.8 is a good general lens.  main thing going for it is price and compactness.  one seller in Garage Sales letting go at RM450 ... good value (if condition of lens is good).

as for using Nikkor on m4/3 bodies (i have not tested EF lenses on m4/3)... here's a summary :-

- adapters mostly acts as physical mount so there is no electronic contact between the lens and camera after mounting. 
- features like AF, auto aperture control is not available.
- you can only set the aperture if the lens has an aperture ring
- there are some adapters claiming to have circuitry to control the aperture of G lens (which does not have aperture rings)
- focusing is manual and although manageable might feel a bit inconvenient if you are used to AF only usage.  have to zoom the Live View for more precise focusing especially if you are snapping at large aperture
- you can practically only use A and M mode
btw, a 50mm is effectively giving u a 100mm view ... and doing manual focusing handheld thru the Live View without stable support like tripod (where the display is zoomed 5-14x to assist more precise focus) ... err ... can be a challenge unsure.gif
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QUOTE(xandman @ May 24 2012, 09:25 AM)
i have to add...
MF on m4/3 doesnt feel natural enuff...
i m very used to MF...from film SLR to DSLR, from film RF to Digital RF....
but on the m4/3...MF feels awkward...
even with the assist and IS...
so i say try it first...u may like it...or u'll just totally hate it...

as for me...i m still trying to get hold of the MF technique on m4/3... biggrin.gif
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Thanks guys for the info ...

Guys knows anywhere i can get 2nd hand lens?

I went tru a few post in mudah and saw some selling but not sure how to gauge those few hundred ringgit lense will work or not..
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post May 25 2012, 04:51 AM

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QUOTE(d@odao @ May 24 2012, 11:05 PM)
so far only 2 m43 user in the user list... sweat.gif
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E-P2 user here ...

while everyone is raving bout the OMD which is out of budget for me ... where are the rest of the users with their GF1, EP1, and EP2?

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post Jun 4 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Jun 4 2012, 10:22 AM)
actually if kit lens 14-42 cover 14mm-42mm, why do we need to get 17mm or 20mm lens? sorry newbie questions. Is the width for 17mm or 20mm we set maually form kit lens will be same or similar to the prime lens picture's width?
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yeah you can set the focal length to that, but the difference ends there ... and as some would say the optics are better in prime lens - the major difference is the aperture size, these prime lens have big aperture value, the kit lens max at f3.5

the ones on those 17mm from Olympus is at f2.5 and the 20mm from Pana-Leica is at f1.7

lower aperture allows u take shoot in low lights and going wide on aperture allows u to take bokeh shots ...
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post Aug 5 2012, 03:13 AM

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Just fyi

Today got the Pana 20mm f1.7 at 1350, foot Edar and Boeing same price

Where else the Pana 25mm f1.4 which is at first ask 2050 as the sale.men was showing it to another guy(which was actually from the m43 fb group)
..then the salesmen came back and say wrong.price
.. its actually 2150

Now others like 7-14 pana is.at 3.6k

The new sigma 19mm f2.5 is at 750, quite a good alternative to the Pana 20mm but no pancake size and lower aperture...

This post has been edited by earl-ku: Aug 5 2012, 03:14 AM
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post Aug 6 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(rep1y @ Aug 5 2012, 02:18 PM)
yeah i think the lowest price is RM970, ampang park too...
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bro which shop u went to in ampang park? went there last sat looking for the panny 20mm, cant find much shops there, the ramashan stalls are everywhere ...

only manage to find leos and mega ...


Added on August 6, 2012, 10:46 am
QUOTE(merajey @ Aug 5 2012, 07:01 PM)
some says putting filter on the lens is just some placebo effect...some says its a must...any advice?
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if you dont need those filter effects ... get a uv filter and think of it as just a protection from smudges or contact with the lens ...

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post Aug 6 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(rep1y @ Aug 6 2012, 05:58 PM)
QUOTE(earl-ku @ Aug 6 2012, 10:45 AM)

bro which shop u went to in ampang park? went there last sat looking for the panny 20mm, cant find much shops there, the ramashan stalls are everywhere ...
only manage to find leos and mega ...
I don't know the name of the shop, but its located just right in front of the night club & staircase... ground floor...
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should be Mega something .. an old uncle in there rite ... i asked for the 20mm he says they dont stock it, with that i assumed he dont stock any other m43 lens, and i just left ... some more the place no parking, had to park g tower and walked over ...


Added on August 6, 2012, 10:22 pm
QUOTE(rep1y @ Aug 6 2012, 07:00 PM)
As a user comment, surprisingly it is pretty slow in dim light condition as compared to 12-50mm kit lens & 14mm f2.5 , especially on an OMD body... im quite surprise though, but it is really a sharp lens once the lens lock the correct focus. acceptable slow-focusing-in-dim-light-condition.
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i just got it and am using it on my ep2, now when you say slow af, i think its ok ... now sure whats your term of slow to you guys ...

This post has been edited by earl-ku: Aug 6 2012, 10:23 PM
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post Aug 7 2012, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(enteryourusername @ Aug 7 2012, 05:44 AM)
it's not slow but it's not as snappy, will hunt abit.
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hunt as in looking for the 20mm?
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:53 PM

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guys whats the flash u guys using that will work with TTL on most of these m43 systems? i am using an ep2 ...

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