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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V23 - Dead or Alive!

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davidke20
post May 21 2012, 10:24 PM

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Bcoz weekend is the only days:

1) No need to wake up early to grab GAGA's key
2) Spend time with children & wifu
3) Go soping
4) SiuYi notti with galfren (that's why komplen)
5) r3apers notti with wifu (that's why come late)
6) No need to go all the way to Puchong
7) No need to go work laugh.gif
8) Play FB game night & day
9) Play Diablo
10) Watch hong kee series wholeday

Most of all, need to do chores, clean house, get to see the pretty neighbour carwash, u know la they wet their t-shirts laugh.gif
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post May 21 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ May 21 2012, 10:42 PM)
No wonder u don mind to do something silly to attract them laugh at you laugh.gif
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blush.gif those are real mistakes... I have never wanted to be a clown, only TRYING to be macho all the time blush.gif There were once the 2 chicks wiping their LBLP, my car was side by side whilst we're washing our ride. I purposely duck down to wipe my engine oil filter, pretend like very machine savvy, then accidentally slipped my left foot whilst getting up, bumped my head on the head lights tongue.gif luckily they weren't paying much attention that time, I quickly throw the wiping cloth & tools into the pail to confused them the knocking sound are actually my tools rolleyes.gif And yes, most of the time I'm clumsy. nod.gif


Added on May 21, 2012, 11:42 pm
QUOTE(r3apers @ May 21 2012, 11:34 PM)
sorry not notti with wife.. its had some water sport activity with frenz in puchong as well...
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WATER SPORT?! shakehead.gif

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post May 22 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 22 2012, 09:26 AM)
Just curious, why you wanna wipe your engine oil filter??? rclxub.gif
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Ady told u ma, PRETEND machine savvy mar tongue.gif Was going to open bonnet & take out the pretty blue filter & show off abit geh tongue.gif
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post May 22 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(kongjong @ May 22 2012, 10:29 AM)
the last figure are the same.  blush.gif
thank mieza provides a courtesy info here.
i called to justify, the rate offered by muamalat is 2.7% only!!!!
by giving the loan amount 44k with interest 2.7% & tenure 7 yrs. interest: $8316. installment: $623.
is my figure correct? icon_rolleyes.gif
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If conventional loan, early settlement got rebate, can reduce the future interest. Normally bank will charge u 1 time 3 months profit(interest only). For example if u have 3 years to go, suddenly boss gib u 10 years bonus & u wish to settle the car loan. 1 month instalment 623, principle 573, interest 50. 3 months profit meaning 150 to be paid in advance. The rest of the instalment are paid into principle for 573*36months.

Islamic loan is an AGREEABLE sales contract. Bank already sold you the car for that price, there is no way you can get discount even if u wish to settle it early.
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post May 22 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(kongjong @ May 22 2012, 10:52 AM)
so the rebate in conventional loan is only applicable to full settlement? is advance payment will drag down the installment amount like mortgage flexi loan?  tongue.gif
sorry for asking stupid question.
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Not too sure how it works, but I do get a tiny discount last time when I was with CIMB. My monthly RM294, I paid 300 for 3 years. In the end my final month almost paid nothing to settle blink.gif according to a finance savvy fren, conventional loan utilize a loan account(temporary savings account without ATM) function. Whatever extra u serviced into the principle will be treated as SAVINGS(farkin low interest that type). You may request to withdraw money out whenever needed, but don't expect the savings able to cover your interest rate though blink.gif

My current instalment RM749, I service RM750 only. See how la, 2 years 10 months to go!
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post May 22 2012, 03:08 PM

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Was driving a old GAGA with 4G93T GSR wholeday since baby BLM sent for RM10 serbis cas blink.gif Got back worksiop kolek ma kar, then hit to MEX again. Whilst I tarek abit after toll, the GSR I just returned worksiop came cucuk shakehead.gif So I let the vacuum gauge start screaming la. 2nd gear red line, tarik jarak. 3rd gear red line, menten jarak, 4th gear red line, tarik jarak abit. 5th gear... Stuck at 160kmh jor, then only the bugger start catching up rclxms.gif

Whilst I was happily praising ma BLM done a great job, the GSR slowly over took me, then blow off-shift up doh.gif 4th gear nia shakehead.gif Not a chance to battle with hai powah turbo cars doh.gif
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post May 22 2012, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(kongjong @ May 22 2012, 05:07 PM)
yes. wheel driving up rpm; while rpm runs the fuel.
thats y ppl said lower rpm contribute to lower fc. smile.gif
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Fuel consumption = angle of throttle body. U full throttle then shift at 2000rpm, do the same for all 5 gears, your petrol consumption is as "GOOD" as a ford mustang GT500. Too long story to explain the scientific stuff.
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post May 22 2012, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ May 22 2012, 06:33 PM)
it's all about ur right foot? right? gently or manly
if u based on vacuum meter.
but high rpm = full throttle (*usually)
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V12k got the point, all those stuff take into account. BUT, what I'm trying to emphasize is, the ONLY factor you can change WHILST driving is your right foot behaviour. You may have 0.03(probably can never achieve, unless you're using DUREX) wind drag aerodynamic bodykit, you may be doing downhill, may be its dry weather + 800 thread wear tarmac tyre on fine road, at the same time rolling with high grade ENDURO CERAMIC bearings, but if your right foot is stepping on 0in/hg vacuum... whats the point to have all that fuel saving stuff on your car? blink.gif So, when you're driving, you cant change tyre at the same time, you lift your right foot to save fuel. When you driving, you can't change bodykit, you lift your right foot to save fuel. When you're uphill, you choose to let loose a little of your right foot, allow cruising speed drop instead of stepping steeper to maintain 120kmh uphill. When you're using the normal 5km distance junk road to go office daily, you can't possibly use NKVE travel another 30km to go to work, instead you pick the right speed to drive through the rough 5km.

QUOTE(lhwj @ May 22 2012, 06:53 PM)
True for manual for sure. Because while coasting downhill in gear without stepping on any pedals, if I step on the accelerator I can feel the engine come back to life (start running on its own again). I turn to my friends then and tell them I'm using zero fuel at the moment rclxms.gif That's why I always hantam those people who tell me they coast downhill in neutral doh.gif (unless their car has carburettor)

What about CVT and 4 speed auto?
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Be it carburator/EFI/auto/manual/CVT/Diesel, the air/fuel mixture will automatically become lean when throttle body closed.

In conventional carburator(not talking about racing carbs), there are 3 jet inside the inlet.
Idling jet = to supply minimal fuel to maintain idling air/fuel so engine wont stall
Fuel jet = supply fuel for sprint/drive
Air jet = to mix with fuel

Different type of EFI engines got mass flow sensors.
Performance cars normally has it OUTSIDE throttle body, nearer to air filter to get the CORRECT amount of air intake and to supply CORRECT amount of fuel to achieve motorsports performance
Normal family cars has it INSIDE the throttle body or manifold. Less dirty/less response

Diesel engines, when throttle open, AC pump pour diesel inside, piston "giap" the air/fuel until the mixture canot tahan, then explode(combustion) laugh.gif Throttle body closed, AC pump pour nothing into the engine. Piston "giap" the air, no fuel to ignite.

Manual or auto, RPM doesn't really matter when down hill. Just beware of OVER DRAGGED of long running lean(more air VS less fuel mixture) that causes overheating to the head gasket.


Added on May 22, 2012, 8:41 pm
QUOTE(ogkhojack @ May 22 2012, 08:22 PM)
if its there, i wont ask here
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May be they accidently TERpasang the traction control into your ride laugh.gif The light will only lite on when the traction control activated, which mean you're having wheel spin that time. You may try a gain to purposely go through a puddle and step on the accelerator 9 9 laugh.gif

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post May 22 2012, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ May 22 2012, 08:57 PM)
Eh but when coasting downhill there's no combustion, so the only heat produced is from compressing the air. Will that overheat the gasket?

You're really entertaining as usual rclxms.gif
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There is combustian. Kan dah sakap idling masih supply minimal fuel so the engine won't stall? As of 0 combustion, during downhill you turn your key switch off. I'll see you in hell. nod.gif

Not sure whether your "entertaining" have any sarcasm between the line, but I take it as a compliment then. Since you think my knowledge is "entertainment", might as well give you another story brows.gif

Have you seen people battery weak, then get some buddy to push the car to running speed, say 15~20kmh. Suddenly engage 2nd gear and release clutch to choke up the engine? This is an EXACT reverse logic of the downhill FC panaroma. The chain reaction is, when your wheels are spinning, if TRANSMISSION(take note, gear box transmit engine torque to wheels to create momentum, thats why it named that way) engaged, torque from wheel will pass back to clutch. Clutch that disengaged snap on the flywheel, then the flywheel turn the crankshaft. Crankshaft received force to mobilize the conrod. Finally your piston pushed all the way up to the top and compressed any air/fuel inside the engine. When piston reaches the top, air/fuel mixture reached its....damn can't remember the scientific name, think its combustion point. Then the mixture self ignite. Then the car ma start liao lo.

QUOTE(zeone @ May 22 2012, 10:09 PM)
Power window got sound IS NORMAL??? doh.gif

Feel how effective all the repetitive blowing-up of so-called "Power Window probs" of Proton cars has affected the perspective of that item!!
Phew! whistling.gif

Pleez...it's NOT NORMAL! biggrin.gif

If it's the friction sound power windows are prone to, it's NOT a prob!
Juz a little silicone grease/ lubricant wld solve that. Period. Easily available everywhere!
Why?
Cos it's not peculiar to Protons! Haha! rclxm9.gif

All moving parts can make sounds due2 friction... tongue.gif
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Today mia Z1 manyak fierce wor shocking.gif This is the 2nd sarcastic post in 1 day shocking.gif
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post May 23 2012, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ May 22 2012, 11:39 PM)
Ahh, push starting. Yah, I tried that before, on a friend's car, when the battery died. Wasn't successful though, in the end jump-starting worked.

Isn't what you described how diesels work? In that case we don't need spark plugs any more, on petrol engines? hmm.gif
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Your friend's bat3 already KO la. Even if the 1st push start ignite the engine, but bat3 not enuf powah to spark the plug, how to continue leh. Jump start a total KO bat3 can actually chain react the alternator, once the car started can self rely on the dynamo instead of the bat3. Push start is for weak bat3 or KO starter(provided the car's other component is entirely normal).

Won't work. Diesel engine compression ultrahai! Piston hard until can crack the floor. Diesel is designed to run with hai torg, nothing to do with horse powah. A normal diesel 1.4 engine can easily generates 20kg/mm torque, but a petrol engine wanna get 14kg/mm also dai hard². The other way round, normal 1.4 diesel engine can only gets around 30hp blink.gif Whereas, by increasing compression of a same displacement petrol engine can easily achieve 100hp/litre icon_idea.gif (not to mention side effects of overheat, valve hitting piston, crack engine head, unbalanced camshaft/crankshaft...etc). Btw, due to the compression/diesel is hard to ignite, and also the ultra strength of diesel engine, if the diesel engine is running at NORMAL, fuel consumption is normally 1/3 of petrol only notworthy.gif Go fuelly and search for GOLF diesel, PASSAT diesel... oh the easiest 1 to find out locally is TOYOTA HIACE brows.gif I purposely prepare a gallon(RM6.75 worth of diesel) in the van, fill up full tank and drive the damn thing to deliver car parts with my friend. Needless to say, drive like a moron, cutting queue like any other van driver. Speed like no tomorrow. Every greenlight also do wheel spin + redline(3800rpm nia). Until we stall at the roadside, dashboard clocked at 999.8 shakehead.gif (was going to push it 200 meter to get 1000, but it just won't do it). After that, added my gallon of spare fuel, I can only push in another RM89 worth of diesel at nearby gas station. Another good review diesel powered monster is ISUZU D-MAX. I've heard many crazy FC story about it, but haven't get to test 1 by myself. blink.gif

On a side note, there was once when I was washing my bearings in a pale of diesel, a pretty gal walk past and a lite cigarettes drop into my pale shocking.gif then the cig got put out sweat.gif phew... from that experience I know how hard it is to ignite diesel.

All in all, petrol powered vehicle give better response, easy to drive, easy to maintain, low emission, quieter, more horses. Call me Singh AlinGam, but I used to modified my own ride back in the old days in kampong. There is no enough budget to purchase performance part or to hire mechanic. The best we do is rent a place at the mech and work together with them during weekend, or take leave when necessarily. cool.gif

QUOTE(dares @ May 23 2012, 12:14 AM)
Ericmaxman = rehabilitated ex Proton fanboi
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post May 23 2012, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ May 23 2012, 08:05 AM)
Hi & Good Morning, Every1!! notworthy.gif

hmm.gif Very Quiet in here...
Helloooo.... wave.gif


Added on May 23, 2012, 8:06 amps. It's a cooool morning here up North.
No more HOT. Drizzling... tongue.gif
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Gud moaning. Ah.. Ari ini punya mood ada baek sket ye brows.gif can u go Penang or Bkt Mertajam for TT ka? Few of u guys also up North rite. Be great if can arrange a small TT with few of u guys.


Added on May 23, 2012, 9:00 amBy da way TS, pls sign me up for next TT, but will be arrive late. Meanwhile, anybody allow me to touch your FLX? V12k? Your ride ady BOV(bolt on vacuum), no need to take out anything rite. Just extend 1 extra tube nia,no cutting required.

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post May 23 2012, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(foo0110 @ May 23 2012, 10:07 AM)
Feeling weird, after 2nd servicing, I feel my flx not so smooth now, when accelerate slowly from idle, the engine/gear feels very jumpy sometime, like something is jamming it inside.  shakehead.gif

And this morning when i saw my car (parked outside condo), I saw the road with flour, and my car also...floured  vmad.gif  hopefully is not sweetened thing or what, else white car will become black car (covered with ants)
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Pls send back to the SC ask them to rectify it immediately, at least demand for a sound explanation. No need take queue, just go there make noise infront of other customer say why after serbis become this & that problem, sure they sked of u wan. If they still dun layan, pls lodge a report to Trbunal Pengguna.
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post May 23 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 23 2012, 11:20 AM)
Unker, you wanna COD/COC/COCK your merchandise this TT?

BTW, saw a Gen2 near my place with "ULTA RACING" stickers dy  thumbup.gif
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blink.gif wut machundoi? I don't sell them things, I tumpang beli oni. Left 1 set 9 bucks BM Horn for kenJiJi, another set for HuzaiFaFa nia. I bought a huge box all delivered liao. If u r toking abt the deal WE toking abt, yes pls bring along. I pai kesh.

The other day I put an AEM body vinyl with stripes on my doors, wife gib order to slice them down immediately infront of her, said the car looked samseng wor sad.gif It was metallic high gloss blue vinyl, got it from my magician for free bcoz he ordered a customized B20C gearbox for the customer, so got the vinyl from US shipped together in the wooden case. Should have sell it sad.gif
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post May 23 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 23 2012, 11:48 AM)
Wah door sticker pun tak pass kah?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Its body vinyl, stretch from front door all the way to rear fender. Since GaGa is 4 door with short rear fender, I had to cut the E word in the middle. The rear part had to trim short for my wheel arch. Actually the A word patah left leg ady.

Hard to obtain approval lately.
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post May 23 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 23 2012, 03:16 PM)
TESCO semi RM50
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It WAS 34.90, now RM74.90 ady sad.gif
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post May 23 2012, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ May 23 2012, 06:40 PM)
tarak lar..i diy kat iswara saja. kalau mau tengok diy kat saga blm, tanya debitke20.

saya punya kabel bumi belum install. spanar tak cukup panjang. rolleyes.gif
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I install wayar bumi very sohigh 1, so don't expect miracle. You saw my ISWAGA rite? Actually its a 5 point, the missing wires I used to connect from AC pump to firewall, from AC pump to rocker cover, from alternator to radiator fan cover. Reason? Unkonwn... blink.gif Next time when I do BLM I only take foto la.


Added on May 23, 2012, 6:56 pm
QUOTE(lhwj @ May 23 2012, 04:35 PM)
Weird. On a front wheel drive the front tyres should wear faster.
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He said he's not the racing type, meaning he go side ways. Too much henbrek drifto, thats why rear tyre wear faster than front laugh.gif

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post May 24 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ May 23 2012, 08:56 PM)
Why no cables from neg of batt3 to car body/any of those points?
Usually prob is mainly due2 the old ori cable fr batt3 to body not providing good contact/flow in older cars. tongue.gif
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There are already 4 wires from the bat3 hook on to distributor, alternator and stuff, can't remember exactly where they were. I added some extra cables to selang seli between those peripherals and chassis.

QUOTE(dares @ May 23 2012, 10:38 PM)
Why slowest rate?
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1) To prevent back flow
2) Enormous amount of bubble created whilst stream of petrol pour in the tank, which result in more evaporation(Slow fill in may result the same due to tank cap was not there to shut the exposure of back flow hose)
3) Due to fact-2, it effect better when you refill your tank in the morning to reduce evaporation, less activity from the storage tank of the petrol station will also ensure the quality of fuel you pump in.

QUOTE(SiuYi @ May 23 2012, 11:38 PM)
Someone asked me about this so i will disclose my price list here:

Sapura proride standard springs, standard height, just few percentage stiffer and harder than the oem which is from APM.

rear springs only RM 110.

Sapura proride special NGV springs, 1 extra coil turn than the standard coil, definitely more than 100% stiffer and harder than the oem which is from APM and relatively higher 1 coil turn height than the standard springs from sapura.

rear springs only RM120.

u dun plan to modify ur car, so this is just the standard upgrades to the suspensions. noneed change absorbers, noneed go alignment again. installation of springs can cost as low as just rm20 only. no more sagat, no more bouncy rears.

anyone?
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Obviously, the someone is ME icon_rolleyes.gif who else so pandai go and invest into 55 series 15" tyres on a BLM?


Added on May 24, 2012, 12:04 am
QUOTE(kenjilew @ May 23 2012, 11:45 PM)
dun ever wash your throttle body on your own with the chemical stuff.... sudah kena tahi kao kao ! sad.gif
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What happened?

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post May 24 2012, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ May 24 2012, 12:09 AM)
i also dunno... after spray car idling rev unstable at rate of 1.8k - 2k rpm... for 30 mins... my dad says that the engine is burning the chemical... but what i did is reset the ECU at a workshop then it is back to normal...
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On the bright side, only a reset ECU solve your problem, meaning no problem icon_rolleyes.gif Now, let's hope your ride gain some mileage after this.
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ May 24 2012, 12:26 AM)
the carburator throttle body cleaner that u can get at tesco... lols...
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For EFI cars, normally I spray on clothe and wipe the throttle instead(haven't try on BLM though). Unless its a carburator, will not hesitate to spray the mofo and rev it kao kao laugh.gif
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Woke up late to found no BLM key,took the ISWAGA & chose the wrong route.Embark from Sg Buloh NKVE all the way to KLIA,then only managed to get back to Dengkil!Found a malay restoran & start to whack nasi lemak.

A lowered white FL(no X) with 15" wheels stopped at the roadside, a late 20's chick got down & seat right opposite of me since restoran is pack. No ther intention, just curious since she wearing tight fit white dress, "You jururawat ke?". "No." I carry on,"tapi ini baju macam jururawat". She replied"I'm a doctor." Me shock,"wah! Manyak muda punya doktor.klinik mana?spesialise apa?manatau nanti gua pi jumpa u bila sakit?","Iook, u obviously can't differenciate between Indians & Malays. My Bahasa is limited as I graduate in India. Btw, I do post mortem. If u wanna visit me, fine. Once in a life time, make sure your will executor knows about your request. shakehead.gif

After a not so encouraging ice breaking, surprisingly she askedd what car I drive. So I answered BLM, she replied"besides of a gangster wannabe iswara parked infront of my car, there aren't any Proton cars around" doh.gif then only I explain why the ISWAGA. Chat a little bit & understands her mod, hotbits spring, cam pulley, K&N drop in, REMUS exhaust custom piping shocking.gif A female doctor?! shakehead.gif Had a short chat & she said, all those mods can only give the driver a sense of satisfaction & confidence. She put it on wheel dyno & found there's 0 power up, to a whoopful average 84hp in 3 dyno runs. Why SAGA? There are much better cars out there for a doctor. " Will you modify a comfortable mercedes benz? Will u tailgate a Proton Putra with a BMW? Will you put a racing muffler on a PEUGEOT 408? I have a stock 330CI locked in my garage for leisure driving/weekend getaway. I just like it the way SAGA is. Looked innocent with good potential, cheap to modify & easy to maintain" shakehead.gif CHEAP she said.

Whilst I was impressed by her knowledge, she picked up a call and rushed off to work. Now I'm still sitting at the restaurant wondering how come I didn't ask her name & number doh.gif will be coming back here next week to try my luck!

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