Ur car is new, grounding cable is not nessacery, voltage stabilizer mainly just placebo only.

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Added on June 8, 2012, 3:57 pmUR max only 2 point connection, 3max is 4 points, more points more secure, this will never be wrong.

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Jun 8 2012, 03:57 PM

I bought a 2 point bar for my iswaga 8 years ago when my car was 8 years old that time. The problme is, the bar fits just fine with any other LMST/LMM on the road, also tried it compatible with my old GAGA1.5, but its too long for my ISWAGA. Magician said, a factory fresh vehicle, if came without reinforment strut support, after several years of punish/tortured by a moron like me, normally the strut tower are compressed inward, therefore the after market(premeasured length) strut bar became too long for my car Not sure how real is it, but my Plotong Fira has been servising its tenure with a cekai strut bar for wonderful 16 years with its 2 previos owner & myself(both previous owners are my friend).

Frankly, those strut bars have never gave me any different driving experience. I get the same amount of "body roll" when I attack roundabouts, compare my 1.6 with my other 1.3 FIRA, they felt exactly the same with/without he strut bar. In short, I wanted to bar just to keep the car in shape. Be it real or placebo, its only RM250+ for both front & rear. Rather than few years later somebody offer me a bar, when I try to pasang and found the bar is longer than my strut towers!

Speaking of which, I think that's why my ISWAGA need to adjust camber so damn often, because the tower already compressed/senget.

haha.. like i said before.. my father hilux, my moms exora even my previous myvi fitted with UR .. haha more to branding.. and we trust UR

but.. they said stabilized the power when compressor kicks in
as currently when compressor kick in at night u can see ur headlamps will dimmed for seconds
some also said faster aircond cooling

as the name suggested it stabilizing the voltage so less voltage leakage?
if it can overcome my concern of dimmed headlamp while compressor kick in
and other related voltage shortage esp when compressor kicks in
it's good enough for me

as grounding cable, our stock one good enough?

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Added on June 8, 2012, 4:12 pm

good point too.. one need a reason to justify their expenses
as long as it give u benefit it's ok then
but u mention the driving characteristic in which not the same across the world
i suppose car manufacturer hv calculated the best for at least 10 years of the car lifetime in its stock condition

This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Jun 8 2012, 04:12 PM

just done 15k service around RM175 (EO, gasket, oil filter and RM55 labor)

20k need do EO, oil filter, gasket, spark plug, gear oil, brake oil, power steering fluid and RM100 labor cost around RM500 ok?

i think gear oil, brake oil, steering fluid and spark plug no need so fast change, m i rite?

This post has been edited by GP mad man: Jun 8 2012, 04:16 PM

does the sc allow us not to follow their service schedule? im also thinking the same
especially the plug which they mention on the 18month service and upcoming every 12months



btw on ur 1yr service does u change that?

This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Jun 8 2012, 04:21 PM

tis time service i asked more Q about bring my own EO lar, dun change tis and tat.
their reply is, "ok u go choose wat u wan but we will put remark tat u dunwan tis and tat, in future any part malfunction we will not replace it under warranty"

ops sry, i should say hi to everyone before start my post here

This post has been edited by GP mad man: Jun 8 2012, 04:23 PM

as if they know there'll be problems later
this one really needs someone that hv used saga blm for quite some time..

erm tis is their procedure to inform customer maybe?

really not sure wanna follow their package anot. can save around RM100 if dun change those parts

Don't bother. A lot, like magnet trap, engine flush, this flush that flush are pure optional rubbish.

They have no right to force you and they have no right to remove your warranty. The only possible issue is you bringing your own engine oil, but if it's branded and within specifications, there should be no problems. Unless they're about to publicly say that another branded engine oil broke your engine. Which would be a stupid thing to do.

You can check the front page for a service schedule with scheduled parts replacements, etc. Those are the only parts you should consider changing at the specified mileage. Even then, some people don't even bother to change some of the parts, like the belts, if the belts are still in good condition at the mileage point.

This post has been edited by +Newbie+: Jun 8 2012, 04:48 PM

okok, noted

i think they just trying to earn more profit for the part

That may be, let's not forget the Preve chassis has the highest torsional stiffness among Proton cars, so logically it should have less chassis flex, yet Proton decide to include a front strut with the car. So personally I think it has it's merits in improving handling, other than keeping your strut towers apart.

Also, reducing bodyroll is not their primary function. So it's unrealistic to expect sudden reduction in bodyroll once you installed it.

Hate to sound cynical, but are you sure you are not paying more for the brand than the product itself?

4-point vs 2-point, it would be an easy decision, at least for me.

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 8 2012, 04:52 PM

Yes, it seems they're just looking for more profit.

But to be fair, not all are like that. Some are genuinely on the official scheduled parts list. You just need to be careful.

I have encountered Service Personnel who told me not to bother changing spark plugs every 10K and do it every 20K. Some even told me it's ok to bring own engine oil.

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Added on June 8, 2012, 5:05 pmI cannot speak for the Iswara, as I have no experience with the Iswara.

As for the Saga, I have felt a big difference on my car. I changed nothing else, so it can only be attributed to the strut bar. E.g. When taking corners, the car feels so much more stable. I don't feel like I'm gonna roll out the car.

Have you tested strut bars on your Saga already? If you haven't see if you can get your magician to loan you one for a short test.

This post has been edited by +Newbie+: Jun 8 2012, 05:05 PM

agree with you bro.

yes 4 is better than 2.

this is my opinion ar.

if 3max is good. should do more roadshow, event and etc to promote their product and to encourage people to buy it.

i not mean buyers but for me it proven. and the ultra racing really help me alot when i driving last time.. from standard to sport to semi sport.. all kautim..

as long buy the ori .. and you will enjoy the car together with the safety.

Dun worry, he has already put his name down on the bulk list

Then it boils down to as long as you are happy. Be an informed consumer, then buy what you like

My point of this 2 point connection is it can transfer the load from one side to another side, but without attach to 3rd points (firewall), it can only ensure relative distance between 2 tower, if the body is still flex, 2 point will flex in same rate (of cos now the load is equally divided between these 2).

In 3max 4 point connection, now the bar also attached to firewall, means it not only kept relative distance between strut tower, the firewall also share the load from each side, means you have 2 extra point to share the load, means even less body flex...

furthermore, 3max is cheaper than UR.

yeah man..

and i also have kakimotor members card.. so buy more cheaper ultra racing at their outlet. haha

So you wanna join the bulk? I think at least two members (r3apers and number92) has offered to bring it to you...

now my hands itching to be put into the list
wait till reach 5 person

for front strut already hv good feedback from +Newbie+
how about rear 3 point strut?

This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Jun 8 2012, 05:23 PM

If i get the bar, i'm not sure the shop outside that din sell 3max can install or not wo...

The point at firewall need to drill or just plug in and screw?