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chitchat
post Jun 11 2012, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(ellimist @ Jun 11 2012, 04:40 PM)
If you're 2 hander, your "dmg" will be waaaayyyyyy higher than mine. 1.3k dps one somemore, sure damn high.

My 1 hander can reverse calculate. It's 998dps, with 20% attspeed modifier. Base attspeed is 1.4 for wands, so if you know the formula, you can reverse engineer my average damage (pretty sure it's below 600).

My orb average dmg is 230 iianm. About 9x to 39x dmg listed.

My "high" dmg is largely due to attack speed I believe. My int is 127x, and my attack speed is 2.45
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thanks for reply, a lot numbers i rclxub.gif just check my int was 1730 but with my 2 handed mace + magic weapon + sparkflint + glasscannon still only reach 40k dmg sweat.gif
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Jun 11 2012, 06:33 PM)
thanks for reply, a lot numbers i  rclxub.gif just check my int was 1730 but with my 2 handed mace + magic weapon + sparkflint + glasscannon still only reach 40k dmg  sweat.gif
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Wah. Lao. Weh. So much int. How much vit you got?

The difference is definitely due to attack speed. Mines an inflated number for spells like blizz. Benefit of aspd is mainly for signature spell (since ull spam it faster and no arcane cost) and faster cast animation. if we both spam arcane orb, you'll do more dmg than me for sure.

If you can't imagine what I'm talking about, I'll post the dmg formula later tonight. You'll see then u aspd affects so much
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post Jun 11 2012, 08:24 PM

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Hi guys,
Please recommend some replacement part for existing eq. At the moment can only solo act1 inferno. Total budget 1mil.
(just list primary stats)


Helm - 620 AR, 216 int, 70vit, 7% life
Shoulder - 260 AR, 76 int, 49 all ressist
Glove - 400 AR, 30 int, 15% AS
Bracer - 200 AR, 150 int, 50vit
Chest - 400 AR, 70 int, 35 vit, 380 regen
Amulet - 190 int, 70 vit
2x ring - 15%AS, 70int
Pants - 320 AR, 170 vit, 70 int
Boots - 320 AR, 12 MS, 60 int

Weapon - 2H, 930 dps, 150int, and slot with 45% crit dmg

21k DPS (unbuffed) 24k health, 2.9k armor with average 240 resist.

Hope you guys can point out small changes which give better improvement ratio, than say blowing 1 mil on a single piece, biggrin.gif
But I'm ready to blow it if justifiable.

Thanks man.
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post Jun 11 2012, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Jun 11 2012, 08:24 PM)
Hi guys,
Please recommend some replacement part for existing eq. At the moment can only solo act1 inferno. Total budget 1mil.
(just list primary stats)
Helm -      620 AR, 216 int, 70vit, 7% life
Shoulder - 260 AR, 76 int,  49 all ressist
Glove -      400 AR, 30 int, 15% AS
Bracer -    200 AR, 150 int, 50vit
Chest -      400 AR, 70 int,  35 vit, 380 regen
Amulet -    190 int, 70 vit
2x ring - 15%AS, 70int
Pants -      320 AR, 170 vit, 70 int
Boots -      320 AR, 12 MS, 60 int

Weapon - 2H, 930 dps, 150int, and slot with 45% crit dmg

21k DPS (unbuffed)  24k health, 2.9k armor with average 240 resist.

Hope you guys can point out small changes which give better improvement ratio, than say blowing 1 mil on a single piece,  biggrin.gif
But I'm ready to blow it if justifiable.

Thanks man.
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Basically I don't see much "Resist All" with your equipments. So, you should get more of that. If you're going into Act 2, I'd say aim for 500 resist all if possible. You can change your weapon to 1.1k - 1.2k dmg cheaply too.

Can you easily beat champion packs at Act 1 Inferno?

What's your build for skill?

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post Jun 11 2012, 08:41 PM

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Hi demonic wrath,

Well, earlier I got a whole bunch of res item, and with Prismatic armor, can nearly reach 750. As it goes, anything with 60+res, with Int and vit isnt cheap. So its mainly 50-60res with minor Int like 70-90. Previous health like 19k, with 18kdps.

Tried my current setup and notice that surprisingly tankier or at least equivalent, but more dmg.

Using your standard:
Arcane Orb
Diamond Skin
Blizz
Hydra Poison
Magic Weapon
Energy Armor

Can mow down almost any non-fast +vortex +jail guy.
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post Jun 11 2012, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Jun 11 2012, 08:41 PM)
Hi demonic wrath,

Well, earlier I got a whole bunch of res item, and with Prismatic armor, can nearly reach 750. As it goes, anything with 60+res, with  Int and vit isnt cheap. So its mainly 50-60res with minor Int like 70-90. Previous health like 19k, with 18kdps.

Tried my current setup and notice that surprisingly tankier or at least equivalent, but more dmg.

Using your standard:
Arcane Orb
Diamond Skin
Blizz
Hydra Poison
Magic Weapon
Energy Armor

Can mow down almost any non-fast +vortex +jail guy.
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Just curious, your 2.9k armor is buffed/unbuffed?
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post Jun 11 2012, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(ellimist @ Jun 11 2012, 06:42 PM)
Wah. Lao. Weh. So much int. How much vit you got?

The difference is definitely due to attack speed. Mines an inflated number for spells like blizz. Benefit of aspd is mainly for signature spell (since ull spam it faster and no arcane cost) and faster cast animation. if we both spam arcane orb, you'll do more dmg than me for sure.

If you can't imagine what I'm talking about, I'll post the dmg formula later tonight. You'll see then u aspd affects so much
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just came back from dinner, ya didnt know AS will increase so much number, i sweat.gif when i saw u all have 40k above dmg while i struggle to reach 40k btw my vit is low 763 only around 27k hp, only left bracer with 89 int with no vit to upgrade later.
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Jun 11 2012, 10:14 PM)
just came back from dinner, ya didnt know AS will increase so much number, i  sweat.gif when i saw u all have 40k above dmg while i struggle to reach 40k btw my vit is low 763 only around 27k hp, only left bracer with 89 int with no vit to upgrade later.
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Roughly speaking:

((((Weapon Avg Dmg + Other avg dmg) * Int multiplier) * skill increases ) * Total attacks per second) * (1 + (crit chance * crit dmg)

So as you can seeee, int increases your avd damage. Attack speed increases your MODIFIED damage, after boosting it up gao gao by your amazing gao 1.7k int

And thanks to FIZYBOY, I have gone and bought mahal lacunis for more attack speed, and now buffed dmg is 50k. Thanks fizy i is poor now. And bought something blizz is gonna nerfs lol

This post has been edited by ellimist: Jun 11 2012, 10:41 PM
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post Jun 11 2012, 10:57 PM

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@ demonic wrath
2.9 unbuffed

A 1.1k DPS weapon can be grabbed for cheap but, I'm not sure about the difference it and my current 930dps, with 150 int. Those blues has no stat, and the min -max difference only around 100-200.
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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Jun 11 2012, 10:57 PM)
@ demonic wrath
2.9 unbuffed

A 1.1k DPS weapon can be grabbed for cheap but, I'm not sure about the difference it and my current 930dps, with 150 int. Those blues has no stat, and the min -max difference only around 100-200.
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Apply into formula above your post. You can calculate difference from there
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post Jun 11 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(ellimist @ Jun 11 2012, 10:39 PM)
And thanks to FIZYBOY, I have gone and bought mahal lacunis for more attack speed, and now buffed dmg is 50k. Thanks fizy i is poor now. And bought something blizz is gonna nerfs lol
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lol after u told me that, I went ahead and bought one for myself too biggrin.gif so technically u also made me poor! laugh.gif

@Doggystyle
try to get 25% movement speed.. its the 'in' thing to do now apparently biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fizyboy @ Jun 11 2012, 11:19 PM)
lol after u told me that, I went ahead and bought one for myself too biggrin.gif so technically u also made me poor! laugh.gif

@Doggystyle
try to get 25% movement speed.. its the 'in' thing to do now apparently biggrin.gif
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Youuuuu staarrrrteeeeeeed ittttttttt tongue.gif

Oh and ..|..(o.o)..|.. you oppresors. K back to game

Edit: Any wizzie take down diabro here oredi? Some guidance please? tongue.gif

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post Jun 12 2012, 12:59 PM

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Took down diablo last week...but is not easy took quite a number of attempts
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QUOTE(Dinodino123 @ Jun 12 2012, 12:59 PM)
Took down diablo last week...but is not easy took quite a number of attempts
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Apa macam stat and build you go in with?

Yeah pretty hard with my lowyah gear, but does seem possible

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post Jun 12 2012, 01:19 PM

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Is always possible my fren dh wif 40k dps also down diablo...I'm using magic missle seeker hydra teleport others is up to u most important this 3skill if ur dps is high enough u can build wif more defensive


Added on June 12, 2012, 1:20 pmAnd I'm selling lacing prowler 49 int 13 attack speed 6 movement speed others rubbish stat

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QUOTE(fizyboy @ Jun 11 2012, 11:19 PM)
lol after u told me that, I went ahead and bought one for myself too biggrin.gif so technically u also made me poor! laugh.gif

@Doggystyle
try to get 25% movement speed.. its the 'in' thing to do now apparently biggrin.gif
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Err...how to get 25% movement speed?12% from boot and 13% from? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Becabal @ Jun 12 2012, 02:06 PM)
Err...how to get 25% movement speed?12% from boot and 13% from? hmm.gif
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Refer few pages back, legendaries in other slots have movespeed of 6-7%, so get 2 of those on top of your boots for 25%. Like:

Pants - Inna's Glorry, Hammer Jammers
Bracers - Lacuni Prowlers
Rings - Unity, Wanderlust
Amulets - Flavour of time, and some other one
Chest - Tyrael's might

Not sure if got others


Added on June 12, 2012, 2:12 pm
QUOTE(Dinodino123 @ Jun 12 2012, 01:19 PM)
Is always possible my fren dh wif 40k dps also down diablo...I'm using magic missle seeker hydra teleport others is up to u most important this 3skill if ur dps is high enough u can build wif more defensive


Added on June 12, 2012, 1:20 pmAnd I'm selling lacing prowler 49 int 13 attack speed 6 movement speed others rubbish stat
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Yup same, have those 3 main spells, and the rest usually defensive or like magic weapon/armor. Don't really have alot of time to cast alot oso, kite kite n dmg je

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Oic thanks laugh.gif I never browse legendary item before cos i cant afford doh.gif
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To defeat diablo not hard la...is just a basic formula I feel elite is worst diablo we just make sure he fun touch us
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QUOTE(Dinodino123 @ Jun 12 2012, 02:42 PM)
To defeat diablo not hard la...is just a basic formula I feel elite is worst diablo we just make sure he fun touch us
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Lol k need to try again. Dono why keep letting him touch me even with 25% movespeed. Must have been too sleepy rclxub.gif

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