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sovietmah
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Aug 1 2012, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Aug 1 2012, 05:58 PM) I'm not talking about those IAS bonus, I'm referring to the DPS on weapon alone. Let say I have 2 weapons and both have 800dps respectively, and now I replace the offhand with 400dps weapon(don't bother with other stats, just focusing on weapon dps alone), does it effect the damage output for WW/sprint tornado? So far what I know is that if u play normal melee build, it does matter as u will use both weapons to hit, but for WW/sprint tornado I don't know it will work this way. Of course it will be counted right.. If i understand ur question correctly.
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HiT-AbLe
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Aug 1 2012, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 1 2012, 06:05 PM) Of course it will be counted right.. If i understand ur question correctly. But I saw someone mentioned that dps doesn't matter for offhand weapon, only focusing on other important stats such as loh, crit dmg, sockets etc, it works just like shield. That's why I'm confusing and need more clarifications b4 I buy any weapon replacement for my offhand.
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sovietmah
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Aug 1 2012, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Aug 1 2012, 06:12 PM) But I saw someone mentioned that dps doesn't matter for offhand weapon, only focusing on other important stats such as loh, crit dmg, sockets etc, it works just like shield. That's why I'm confusing and need more clarifications b4 I buy any weapon replacement for my offhand.  true, u might not see the diff in dps, but it still affect ur stat ma. Just imagine u reduce ur 800dps weapon to 400dps weapon, dps might reduce -3000. so even u use ur WW build, ur dps will be lower but u might not notice it. This post has been edited by sovietmah: Aug 1 2012, 06:14 PM
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HiT-AbLe
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Aug 1 2012, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 1 2012, 06:13 PM) true, u might not see the diff in dps, but it still affect ur stat ma. Just ignore the stats plz, my question is all about the weapon damage on offhand, not about stats. Maybe I should explain more about my gears and build. Right now my barb is dual wield, both weapons have about 800dps, 8xxloh and socket, I'm thinking to sell one and get an offhand replacement which has more crit dmg. Look around at GAH, there're some weapons that suit my need, but most of them have low dps(less than 400dps), that's why I want to know about how the dps works b4 buying any weapon.
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present me
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Aug 1 2012, 06:29 PM
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Wah... now u realize learn tornado style really repair alot... ones mistake wait die... I so noob lol.., gear I have, skill tornado still learning, do u any sifu can teach me step by step tornado skill means wwind...?
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faizdtk
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Aug 1 2012, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Aug 1 2012, 06:12 PM) But I saw someone mentioned that dps doesn't matter for offhand weapon, only focusing on other important stats such as loh, crit dmg, sockets etc, it works just like shield. That's why I'm confusing and need more clarifications b4 I buy any weapon replacement for my offhand.  I think the tornado from sprint use only the main weapon dps but the LoH from the offhand still count . Thats why people use low dps but high LoH for the offhand when using the tornado build. This post has been edited by faizdtk: Aug 1 2012, 06:39 PM
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fuadfadz
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Aug 2 2012, 02:04 AM
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lvl59 act4 hell now,, one more level then i'll building up my barb,, time to invest my gold,,
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neohwengtart
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Aug 2 2012, 09:31 AM
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Guys, i got barbarian with 25k hp, 4k armor and around 3k dps only... Is it enough for act 2 hell?Sometimes when i met elite cant cope. My resistance very low. Only level 54 right now. Can diablo senior teach me a little?
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The Amateur Working Bee
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Aug 2 2012, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Aug 1 2012, 06:27 PM) Just ignore the stats plz, my question is all about the weapon damage on offhand, not about stats. Maybe I should explain more about my gears and build. Right now my barb is dual wield, both weapons have about 800dps, 8xxloh and socket, I'm thinking to sell one and get an offhand replacement which has more crit dmg. Look around at GAH, there're some weapons that suit my need, but most of them have low dps(less than 400dps), that's why I want to know about how the dps works b4 buying any weapon. if you were rly passionate about this build you wouldnt need to wait for answers to drop on your lap from here lol regardless credits to: http://www.d3allstars.com/insane-whirlwind...uild-explained/QUOTE Sprint [Run Like The Wind] will deal damage based off your Main hand weapon, so you need a really high DPS weapon, best if you can throw in STR, Crit Damage, and a socket (for Emerald gems).
Your off hand weapon don’t have to be too godly, about 60% of your main hand DPS is fine so you don’t go wayyyy over your budgets.
When we say we’re building a WhirlWind Barb, it’s ironic when Whirlwind is NOT AT ALL your main damage, not even as close, but that’s the thing, WhirlWind will use the damage on both your hands (alternating Main hand and off hand), so that’s the reason why we don’t have to focus so much on damage for your off hand, but rather look for stats like STR and Crit Damage, and a socket too.
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yuhhaur
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Aug 2 2012, 10:18 AM
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Fellow barb,
YTD dropped a 7xx dps 1H with base 61%crit, 8x str, 5x vit, socket. Is this useful enough?
The figures is roughly as I don't remember.
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The Amateur Working Bee
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Aug 2 2012, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 2 2012, 10:18 AM) Fellow barb, YTD dropped a 7xx dps 1H with base 61%crit, 8x str, 5x vit, socket. Is this useful enough? The figures is roughly as I don't remember. sounds good to me, u lucky the dps 7xx if 6xx mayb no ppl interested liao lulz
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SUSendau02
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Aug 2 2012, 10:35 AM
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at L53, which one is better? dual wield 1H 23X dps with 4XX LOH, decent stats 1H decent stats (this gives me 4k dps) or 2H hammer @ 7XX dps with decent stats too but no LOH (this gives me 10k dps but no life steal n LOH)
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LifeX
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Aug 2 2012, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 2 2012, 10:18 AM) Fellow barb, YTD dropped a 7xx dps 1H with base 61%crit, 8x str, 5x vit, socket. Is this useful enough? The figures is roughly as I don't remember. Can be a good off hand since got base crit. Can add another 80-100% crit gem, then main hand get loh with higher crit dmg.
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The Amateur Working Bee
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Aug 2 2012, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Aug 2 2012, 10:35 AM) at L53, which one is better? dual wield 1H 23X dps with 4XX LOH, decent stats 1H decent stats (this gives me 4k dps) or 2H hammer @ 7XX dps with decent stats too but no LOH (this gives me 10k dps but no life steal n LOH) imo lah, depends on ur playstyle if u dont mind draggin the fight longer abit, go for the 1 hand if u want to one shot shit and get on with it asap, but higher risk with aspd slower, go with 2 hander 10k dps u can tapao ALOT of shits one shot at hell man
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SUSendau02
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Aug 2 2012, 11:00 AM
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but the 10k dps got no LOH n life steal.. sienzz
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sovietmah
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Aug 2 2012, 11:04 AM
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I upgraded my gears 50.5% crit chance, 215% crit damage. Total DPS: 23K+ LOH: 1100+ Life: 55K Armor: 6.5K Attack Speed: 1.72 My build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...;bZY!ZYZYccAnd it rocks!
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SUSendau02
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Aug 2 2012, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 2 2012, 11:04 AM) I upgraded my gears 50.5% crit chance, 215% crit damage. Total DPS: 23K+ LOH: 1100+ Life: 55K Armor: 6.5K Attack Speed: 1.72 My build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...;bZY!ZYZYccAnd it rocks! powah man
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The Amateur Working Bee
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Aug 2 2012, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Aug 2 2012, 11:00 AM) but the 10k dps got no LOH n life steal.. sienzz why would you be worrying about LoH or lifesteal when you are one shotting almost everythin? need hp just pot or set your lifesteal passive can already
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Goblinsk8er
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Aug 2 2012, 11:12 AM
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Just lvled my Barbarian as my 4th 60 char yesterday.
My gear is not that great (saved up from other toon's drops) but able to complete Act 1-2 within one night.
Hp: 36k Armor: 9.7k LOH: 890+ Life Regen: 1420 (Dont ask why i stack regen, it just appear in a lot of the cheaper gear) AR: 600+ (without war cry) Block rate: 19% Crit chance: 21% Crit Dmg: 117% DPS: 17k
I have no problems with healing myself or standing in fire. Im just having problems with mobs that hit super duper hard. (Like the giant berserker before Magdha or champion pack Golgors) Most of these mobs have super slow atk speed, i can recover back to full health in between their slow atks. But if i get CC'd (fear. frozen etc) ,my health pool is too low to take consecutive hits. Only Wrath of the Berserker can save me from this problem.
Not sure which path to go. My gear is kinda mid range tanking and dps right now. I like tanking but tanking items are crazy expensive. Justice Lantern or Stormshield itself can pay for the gear of my other characters.
I dont understand why Barbarian gear is so bloody expensive. Theres only 1 strength based class in this game and yet the gear is more expensive than a wiz or DH.
This post has been edited by Goblinsk8er: Aug 2 2012, 11:17 AM
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SUSendau02
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Aug 2 2012, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Aug 2 2012, 11:11 AM) why would you be worrying about LoH or lifesteal when you are one shotting almost everythin? need hp just pot or set your lifesteal passive can already swarm by mob... i gg.com, meet those elite gg.com
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