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post May 24 2012, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ May 24 2012, 10:31 AM)
seems like nobody wants to answer to this kinda question
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ha any idea why.

is it been asked too many times or is a stupid question
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post May 24 2012, 11:21 AM

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hihi...wanna ask...
wat primary attack skill u guys prefer?

for me, i really like crippling wave + add dmg rune...
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post May 24 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(xander @ May 24 2012, 11:21 AM)
ha any idea why.

is it been asked too many times or is a stupid question
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ask me , i try to answer


QUOTE(aLertz @ May 24 2012, 11:21 AM)
hihi...wanna ask...
wat primary attack skill u guys prefer?

for me, i really like crippling wave + add dmg rune...
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I using deadly reach and atleast can kite them .
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post May 24 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ May 24 2012, 10:54 AM)
Hi ~~

New to this thread  icon_rolleyes.gif

Currently , a lvl 54 monk and struggling like Hell in Hell mode  sweat.gif

Really thinking of rerolling glass cannons like Wiz / DH . So hard to kill a elite mob  cry.gif
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hello sarjan ghost (SG) long time no see icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 24 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 04:52 AM)
finished Nightmare mode at level 49. biggrin.gif not enough level to start Hell mode, so had to go kill Azmodan twice or so.

now in nightmare mode, 1.6k dps with 15k hp also die like no body business.
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how you manage to kill the first boss in act 4?
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post May 24 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Ksano @ May 24 2012, 12:53 AM)
I found that single player is easier than multiplayer actually.
Once you go nightmare.. every new item is going to overwhelm your current epic gear.. slowly you will throw away those normal mode gear  tongue.gif
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oh my i just spent about 100k or maybe more than that in AH to get my current gear rclxub.gif hopefully can still use use in nightmare mode la.. now no more $$ liao..


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:33 am
QUOTE(wlcling @ May 24 2012, 12:59 AM)
I just did diablo with lvl27 wizard... but anyway nightmare should be fine for your monk except becarefulbof the champions..
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wowww wizard that imba meh? hahaha never get to experience co-oping with other characters yet besides WD..

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post May 24 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ May 24 2012, 11:23 AM)
ask me , i try to answer
I using deadly reach and atleast can kite them .
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m trying to understand how monk weapon works actually.

let's say i have a fist equip on left and right is empty my damage is 3k

if i have both hand equip fist my damage is 3.1k

is tat normal?

assuming both weapon has same damage
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post May 24 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ May 24 2012, 11:31 AM)
hello sarjan ghost (SG) long time no see icon_rolleyes.gif
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hmm.gif Why SG ? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(skincladalien @ May 24 2012, 11:31 AM)
how you manage to kill the first boss in act 4?
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Just tank + spank , use mantra of healing / serenity / FoH .
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post May 24 2012, 11:36 AM

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actually asking a real noobs question here.. what's the difference between ppl saying their dex is 700 and DPS is 1k? what is the full name of DPS actually? damage per second?

from my understanding, say dex = 700, when i go to detail stats, my damage increased by dexterity will be 700% also... so what is DPS?


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:37 am
QUOTE(ghoss @ May 24 2012, 11:35 AM)
hmm.gif  Why SG ?  rclxub.gif
Just tank + spank  , use mantra of healing / serenity / FoH .
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i remember someone referring u as SG in GGC haha cant really rmb d laugh.gif

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post May 24 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(xander @ May 24 2012, 11:34 AM)
m trying to understand how monk weapon works actually.

let's say i have a fist equip on left and right is empty my damage is 3k

if i have both hand equip fist my damage is 3.1k

is tat normal?

assuming both weapon has same damage
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When Dual wielding , you get 15% extra attack speed but you're actually alternating with your main hand and off hand weapon .

If you got 1 high dmg weapon and the other one is low , your dps is lower than using 1h with a shield .

The benefit of using dual wield is the 15% atk speed / Passive to increase dodge / extra stats

QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ May 24 2012, 11:36 AM)
actually asking a real noobs question here.. what's the difference between ppl saying their dex is 700 and DPS is 1k? what is the full name of DPS actually? damage per second?

from my understanding, say dex = 700, when i go to detail stats, my damage increased by dexterity will be 700% also... so what is DPS?
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DPS is the dmg you see on the stats .
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post May 24 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ May 24 2012, 11:31 AM)
how you manage to kill the first boss in act 4?
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serenity. cast. just before reaching him. hit, count 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 ..............run far far away until can cast again.

avoid frost blast at all cost.

skill is the hundred fist, rune set to recover sp when hitting.

then passive skill i make sure i have SP used = Heal.


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:46 am
QUOTE(ghoss @ May 24 2012, 11:41 AM)
When Dual wielding , you get 15% extra attack speed but you're actually alternating with your main hand and off hand weapon .

If you got 1 high dmg weapon and the other one is low , your dps is lower than using 1h with a shield .

The benefit of using dual wield is the 15% atk speed / Passive to increase dodge  / extra stats 
the atk speed increase is auto or with the passive skill using dual-wield?

anyway now i use 2-hand weapon, cos more DPS. at higher level, higher DPS helps a lot.

i use to have dual-wield and each weapon replenish health but at higher levels, it's really case by case already.

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post May 24 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 11:44 AM)
serenity. cast. just before reaching him. hit, count 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 ..............run far far away until can cast again.

avoid frost blast at all cost.

skill is the hundred fist, rune set to recover sp when hitting.

then passive skill i make sure i have SP used = Heal.


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:46 am

the atk speed increase is auto or with the passive skill using dual-wield?

anyway now i use 2-hand weapon, cos more DPS. at higher level, higher DPS helps a lot.

i use to have dual-wield and each weapon replenish health but at higher levels, it's really case by case already.
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If higher level , prefer getting %hp weapon
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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 11:44 AM)
the atk speed increase is auto or with the passive skill using dual-wield?

anyway now i use 2-hand weapon, cos more DPS. at higher level, higher DPS helps a lot.

i use to have dual-wield and each weapon replenish health but at higher levels, it's really case by case already.
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atk speed is auto .

I tried with a heavy 2hand before , it's very good with skill that depends on weapon dmg like Sweeping Wind / Wave of Light (Explosive Light) .
But sure have problem when meeting mobs with lot of minions like the skeleton/monster that kill raising the dead.

Now have to look for a shield already sad.gif

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ May 24 2012, 11:36 AM)
actually asking a real noobs question here.. what's the difference between ppl saying their dex is 700 and DPS is 1k? what is the full name of DPS actually? damage per second?

from my understanding, say dex = 700, when i go to detail stats, my damage increased by dexterity will be 700% also... so what is DPS?


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:37 am
i remember someone referring u as SG in GGC haha cant really rmb d laugh.gif
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DPS is the actual dmg calculated by the game after factoring in dex, weap, gear n etc. dex by itself contributes to % extra dmg of raw dmg (plus other like dodge n armor if u got passive)

Eg: u have a white (normal weap) 100 dmg show on it n all other gear is +dex only, lets say 100 dex.

The dps would then be 100 (of weap) * (1 + (1* % inc by dex)
= 100 * (1+(1*100%))
= 100 * (1+1)
= 200 dps

Now take back the same weap n say u find gear upgrade now +200 dex. Ur dps jump up to 300

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post May 24 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ May 24 2012, 11:41 AM)
When Dual wielding , you get 15% extra attack speed but you're actually alternating with your main hand and off hand weapon .

If you got 1 high dmg weapon and the other one is low , your dps is lower than using 1h with a shield .

The benefit of using dual wield is the 15% atk speed / Passive to increase dodge  / extra stats 
DPS is the dmg you see on the stats .
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yeah.. m considering using 2 demons hand

haha

already got 1 off the ah
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post May 24 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(xander @ May 24 2012, 12:05 PM)
yeah.. m considering using 2 demons hand

haha

already got 1 off the ah
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enjoy those while you can , when hell onwards really need to use shield liao , at first I also don't want but it seems like need to
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post May 24 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ May 24 2012, 11:53 AM)
atk speed is auto .

I tried with a heavy 2hand before , it's very good with skill that depends on weapon dmg like Sweeping Wind / Wave of Light (Explosive Light) .
But sure have problem when meeting mobs with lot of minions like the skeleton/monster that kill raising the dead.

Now have to look for a shield already sad.gif
ehh sweeping wind and wave of light depending on weapon?

anyway mobs ah? whether using dual-wield or 2 handed - still get into heaps of trouble. I doubt using 1 hand + shield can help that much (depending on stats).

now in Hell Mode and I still get pwned easily by those lesser creatures with insane HP and even more insane ability - eg mortar, fire chain, laser, wall, those that bring you back into the mob. sheesh, 1 group of them really need to die a few times just to settle. worse if combat zone far from checkpoint.

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post May 24 2012, 12:11 PM

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yeah. m stuck at hell too tat's why m farming at NM to get better gear

20k hp

ard 4.5k dps
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post May 24 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 12:10 PM)
ehh sweeping wind and wave of light depending on weapon?

anyway mobs ah? whether using dual-wield or 2 handed - still get into heaps of trouble. I doubt using 1 hand + shield can help that much (depending on stats).

now in Hell Mode and I still get pwned easily by those lesser creatures with insane HP and even more insane ability - eg mortar, fire chain, laser, wall, those that bring you back into the mob. sheesh, 1 group of them really need to die a few times just to settle. worse if combat zone far from checkpoint.
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Actually all skills depending on the weapon dmg , not DPS .

If you go nightmare , you use heavy weapon (the slower the better) , you try using wave of light can 1shot kill but when using 1h sure cannot kill one .

worst is the molten / plagued + vampiric, very hard to kill
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oh you referring to that la, to what I remember - it's not about the weapon dmg either. It's about the ATTACK you see in the stats. no?

dual-wield a 133 + 133 doesn't mean it's better attack / dps than a 2-handed 200.

tested various combos before, I donno how to calculate the attack. even both can look like knuckle weapons of similar dmg + stats, the total attack variation can be huge.


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QUOTE(ghoss @ May 24 2012, 12:13 PM)
worst is the molten / plagued + vampiric, very hard to kill
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yeah molten kacau. a lot of them really tough for monk to kill cos have to run close.

serenity also last a few seconds only. sad.gif

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