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post May 24 2012, 10:54 AM

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Hi ~~

New to this thread icon_rolleyes.gif

Currently , a lvl 54 monk and struggling like Hell in Hell mode sweat.gif

Really thinking of rerolling glass cannons like Wiz / DH . So hard to kill a elite mob cry.gif
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post May 24 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(CRSSER @ May 24 2012, 11:00 AM)
im lvl 58 now , hp 22k , dps around 6k hope can get more dps


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:03 am
whats ur dps and hp ? maybe we can coop.. im at act 3
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around 20k , dps around 2.5k dual-wielding at the moment .

Currently at Act 2 looking for the head .

If you're reading the forums in D3 , really depressing for monk when inferno .

It seems they just skill the elite mob packs

QUOTE(ltw82 @ May 24 2012, 11:14 AM)
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yup starter edition.. I create another alt demon hunter and continue wack Skeleton King again..
joking off topic..
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only the 1st attempt SK drop rare item..?
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Yea , 1st kill of the boss mostly got rare, after that need luck to get it
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post May 24 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(xander @ May 24 2012, 11:21 AM)
ha any idea why.

is it been asked too many times or is a stupid question
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ask me , i try to answer


QUOTE(aLertz @ May 24 2012, 11:21 AM)
hihi...wanna ask...
wat primary attack skill u guys prefer?

for me, i really like crippling wave + add dmg rune...
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I using deadly reach and atleast can kite them .
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post May 24 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ May 24 2012, 11:31 AM)
hello sarjan ghost (SG) long time no see icon_rolleyes.gif
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hmm.gif Why SG ? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(skincladalien @ May 24 2012, 11:31 AM)
how you manage to kill the first boss in act 4?
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Just tank + spank , use mantra of healing / serenity / FoH .
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post May 24 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(xander @ May 24 2012, 11:34 AM)
m trying to understand how monk weapon works actually.

let's say i have a fist equip on left and right is empty my damage is 3k

if i have both hand equip fist my damage is 3.1k

is tat normal?

assuming both weapon has same damage
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When Dual wielding , you get 15% extra attack speed but you're actually alternating with your main hand and off hand weapon .

If you got 1 high dmg weapon and the other one is low , your dps is lower than using 1h with a shield .

The benefit of using dual wield is the 15% atk speed / Passive to increase dodge / extra stats

QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ May 24 2012, 11:36 AM)
actually asking a real noobs question here.. what's the difference between ppl saying their dex is 700 and DPS is 1k? what is the full name of DPS actually? damage per second?

from my understanding, say dex = 700, when i go to detail stats, my damage increased by dexterity will be 700% also... so what is DPS?
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DPS is the dmg you see on the stats .
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post May 24 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 11:44 AM)
the atk speed increase is auto or with the passive skill using dual-wield?

anyway now i use 2-hand weapon, cos more DPS. at higher level, higher DPS helps a lot.

i use to have dual-wield and each weapon replenish health but at higher levels, it's really case by case already.
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atk speed is auto .

I tried with a heavy 2hand before , it's very good with skill that depends on weapon dmg like Sweeping Wind / Wave of Light (Explosive Light) .
But sure have problem when meeting mobs with lot of minions like the skeleton/monster that kill raising the dead.

Now have to look for a shield already sad.gif

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post May 24 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(xander @ May 24 2012, 12:05 PM)
yeah.. m considering using 2 demons hand

haha

already got 1 off the ah
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enjoy those while you can , when hell onwards really need to use shield liao , at first I also don't want but it seems like need to
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post May 24 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 12:10 PM)
ehh sweeping wind and wave of light depending on weapon?

anyway mobs ah? whether using dual-wield or 2 handed - still get into heaps of trouble. I doubt using 1 hand + shield can help that much (depending on stats).

now in Hell Mode and I still get pwned easily by those lesser creatures with insane HP and even more insane ability - eg mortar, fire chain, laser, wall, those that bring you back into the mob. sheesh, 1 group of them really need to die a few times just to settle. worse if combat zone far from checkpoint.
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Actually all skills depending on the weapon dmg , not DPS .

If you go nightmare , you use heavy weapon (the slower the better) , you try using wave of light can 1shot kill but when using 1h sure cannot kill one .

worst is the molten / plagued + vampiric, very hard to kill
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post May 24 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 12:18 PM)
oh you referring to that la, to what I remember - it's not about the weapon dmg either. It's about the ATTACK you see in the stats. no?

dual-wield a 133 + 133 doesn't mean it's better attack / dps than a 2-handed 200.

tested various combos before, I donno how to calculate the attack. even both can look like knuckle weapons of similar dmg + stats, the total attack variation can be huge.


Added on May 24, 2012, 12:18 pm

yeah molten kacau. a lot of them really tough for monk to kill cos have to run close.

serenity also last a few seconds only. sad.gif
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No le , the skill scale with weapon dmg like the 70-100 dmg stat not the dps .

basically ,

Dual wield = attack faster / extra dodge (with passive only) / more stats
2h = scale with skills better / extra spirit regen (with passive only) / Easy to get item (instead of finding 2 good 1h)

The dmg calculation increase with +atk%

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post May 24 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(3ternal @ May 24 2012, 12:26 PM)
oic...so in this case dual wield would have a higher dps rate...so far there is no penalty for off-hand weapon rite? i mean traditionally the off-hand weapons in rpgs tend to lower the att rate
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the penalty is that both weapon dmg need to be close to each other .

Example,

Main hand 200dps / Off hand 100dps

You hit 1 time per second.

For 3 sec , Deal 200 + 100 +200 (cos you switch between hands)

So total DPS for 3 sec = 500/3 = 166.66

So you see that the off hand actually dragged down the dps
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post May 24 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 12:38 PM)
hrm. now i see better. I keep thinking combining them but I forgot that it's taking turn to hit. LOL. logic sensor missing.
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That's why the say , use 1h + shield better .

Teach you guys a trick , find those weapon with bonus dmg . Like this one (not mine)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


It boosts your DPS greatly brows.gif
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post May 24 2012, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 24 2012, 01:24 PM)
I've been forging goods, and I find that I've waste a huge amount of coin just to level up the blacksmith. sad.gif Forged items are sub-average at this point.


Added on May 24, 2012, 1:25 pmwell, probably useful if i start a new character and want some decent gears.
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I didn't even upgrade my Jewel / Blacksmith yet laugh.gif
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post May 24 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 24 2012, 02:30 PM)
how get 98.21% oh?

btw how does damage reduction and resistance works? which comes first?

i.e.

armor 60% reduce
resist 60% all

say 10,000 damage comes in

armor first?
4,000 remaining?

then another 60% from resistance?
total is 1,600 ? from original 10,000 ? but which one is counted first?

1 - (1600 / 10 000) = 0.84

so 60% and 60% would be about 84% damage reduction? O_O

oh, also, the 60% is only 60% if the monster is the same level with the monk, in inferno, all monsters higher level one right so it is not 60% liao yes?
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I'm trying my best to focus but there is a girl staring at me.

Armor = Reduce physical dmg
Resist = Magic dmg

Physical Resist = I'm not sure laugh.gif
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post May 24 2012, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 24 2012, 02:34 PM)
which girl? O_O

armor physical damage only? i thought magical also?
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I think only physical , not really 100% as I know higher armor is always better tongue.gif

QUOTE(HenryLow @ May 24 2012, 02:35 PM)
^ ur siggy? tongue.gif
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post May 26 2012, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(vincenteoh88 @ May 25 2012, 10:51 PM)
i lv60 d why tarak NEPHALEM VALOR BUFF ah
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In hell ? Or you're playing Nightmare ?

QUOTE(CRSSER @ May 26 2012, 05:44 AM)
just reach inferno just now , now got 12k dps , 22k hp,
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Not enough HP bro , I just reach inferno , around 9k dmg + 35k hp still dying to elites sad.gif QQ


Added on May 26, 2012, 7:22 am
QUOTE(goldfries @ May 25 2012, 04:39 PM)
ok so what's the purpose of Pony Land or whatever it is?
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QUOTE(mistabean @ May 25 2012, 04:47 PM)
FUN

...and if you played cow level before, farming.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 25 2012, 04:56 PM)
kill ponies! teddy bears! flowers! etc.
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I think they don't want to put Cow Level cos it's like animal torture ? tongue.gif

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post May 26 2012, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ May 26 2012, 09:37 AM)
Hi, guys. I just started diablo 3. And i am using monk at the moment. But one thing I really don't know is about the skill upgrade. Can anyone guide me on this? I try to google it, but they just introduce the skill, nothing more. I would like to know whether the skill is like the diablo 2 whereby you cannot unused the skill point and its fixed already? And there are passive skill, active skill and left , right click which those are confusing me at the moment... ohmy.gif
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No , you learn the skill when you level.

And you unlock runes to customize the skill .
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post May 26 2012, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ May 26 2012, 10:41 AM)
is it possible to unlock all runes once we have reached lvl 60? or we need to be selective?
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Yes , by level 60 will unlock everything but there is a limit of spells you can in a fight , else if you change it halfway there is a cooldown before it's usable .

QUOTE(caballero206 @ May 26 2012, 10:42 AM)
Monk lvl40 reporting in..so far fire vortex combined with that huge bell really work out for me..defeating butcher at nightmare much2 more easier than normal mode..now already halfway to meet Belial..
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Great ~ Monk can solo everything till Hell
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post May 26 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Nels @ May 26 2012, 02:19 PM)
Bro Wizard is unplayable with pure INT in inferno. Just to note sad.gif

By the way, Monk is pretty sweet man. So fast leveling!
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the wall is waiting for you in Inferno
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post May 28 2012, 10:38 AM

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I'm gonna roll another DH to farm gears for my Monk since DH can share the Monk gear.

Inferno act 1 already die don't know how many times due to elite mobs
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post May 28 2012, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(B u B u @ May 28 2012, 10:43 AM)
Monk quite hard jugak solo in hell.

U know before u face diablo in act 4, u will have to descent down few levels right. The mobs there totally tabao-ed me.

At the end I just helicopter-ed (with +25% movement speed rune) from first entrance until diablo lol


Added on May 28, 2012, 10:44 am
Tempest rush
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I solo hell when near / already lvl60 . But inferno really takes a toll on the melee classes .

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