Well if he had big ambitions and then why did he sanction the transfer of Carroll, Downing and Adam ?

And sacking managers dosn't necessarily means its the right thing to do. You can go back and trace where sometimes it pays off to persevere. But this is not what bothers me the most, it's the club's indecisiveness and reckless decision making that's has put us in this path. You realize we now have no key staffs at the club. No CEO, no head of communication, no manager and no DOF.

One way to explain that is bad tactics and formation were adopted.

Remember how we kept sending long ball under Uncle Roy? Torres was chasing the ball like headless chicken.
This season we saw balls were consistently crossed from the left, Downing and Erique.

sad to see Kenny go but club is always be the priority.. now FSG need to get the right manager for the club else Kenny i would imagine he would be disappointed if the club did not improve.

Good news is new manager, i guess more transfer fund? please get the right players pretty please..

anyway i hope Kenny come back as ambassadorial role again, he is always a Legend!

but why didnt FSG appoint KD on another role? why did they just sack him and let him go

He trusted King Kenny, like the rest of us 18 months ago.

If he knew those are the flops, which would have made him God, I bet he'd rather keep those 100millions in American bank.

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Added on May 17, 2012, 4:14 amWe do not know what was discussed.
May be there was an offer but KK turned it down.
I remember an article mentioned that KK flew to Boston to have "back me or sack me".

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 17 2012, 04:14 AM

Ayre staying with Reds
Managing director pays tribute to departed boss

Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre has paid tribute to Kenny Dalglish whilst rubbishing claims that he had also left the club.

The Merseyside giants confirmed the departure of Dalglish on Wednesday, sacking the Anfield legend after their worst league campaign in over half a century.

Ayre, speaking to Sky Sports News, confirmed that Dalglish was still held in the highest regard by the club.

"Obviously it was a difficult decision, he is a great legend of this football club who has brought a lot, even in this last 18 months," said Ayre.

"But we feel it is the right decision and something we have to move forward with, but lots of praise and admiration for the great man.

"We have a big long-term plan for this club, and we have always talked about moving forward and progress on and off the pitch, we have created a lot of foundation to build the business on and increase revenue and other things.

"But next, the most important thing is football and results were perhaps not where we wanted them to be and that drives the decision."

Quizzed about whether Dalglish could again move to a role 'upstairs' at Anfield, he refused to be drawn.

Moving forward

"Today is about moving forward and the future is for discussion in the future," he said.

He was also quick to deny rumours suggesting that he was also on his way out of Anfield

"Absolutely not, no question of that from my point of view, and no induction of that from anyone upstairs," he said.

"The football club is now in a much healthier shape than it was last January off the pitch.

"The owners have removed the debt and everything is now being put in place to compete commercially and financially with our main rivals.

"The only missing piece of the jigsaw - the most important piece of the jigsaw - is football and success in the Premier League.

"The club has a clear long-term strategy in place to get to where we want to be - on and off the pitch - and that is why changes have been made on both the football and business sides of the club.

"Whilst Kenny is disappointed to have left, he's a man of great dignity and the respect we have for him will never change."

Once bitten twice shy.
I doubt the new manager will have another 100 millions to spend.
KK is always a legend. He still holds the record of win %.

That's exactly the point. He had to know. Any sensible owners should had been more careful with just trust. Stop thinking that FSG is blameless in all of this. They were the one that hired Kenny, then let him spent that money despite having placed a DOF to oversee Kenny.

League position - terrible.

Sensible signings - Only Downing, Carroll and if you want Henderson but these guys were brought for HG quota in mind as well and that comes with a premium. Adam - well, 7 million not exactly terrible. Bellamy, Coates, Suarez and Enrique - not so bad.

Good football? Certainly better than what we were playing towards the end of Rafa's tenure and under Roy. Good enough to hit woodwork 33 times as well. Defensively .. joint third in best defence.

Depth of squad - You aren't going to have a depth of squad in one full season where you've got rid of almost 10 deadwoods. Would you prefer to have Mata, Augero and Young as first team players but Poulsen, Konchesky, Degen and N'gog as back ups? I'd rather give him another season to buy some established players then have Downing, Adam, Carroll as back ups. In short, you need wayyyyyyyyy more than 100 million (well 58 came from Torres + Babel's sale) to even build a first team, let alone the bench. So technically, FSG only invested 42 million.

As for Arsenal .. they pretty much had to just compete with Man United, Newcastle and maybe ourselves back then. Now we've got to compete with Spurs, Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Arsenal and maybe even Newcastle.

Okay so he was appointed mid season and finished 2nd in the next season, which means f*** all and goes on a 11th, 13th and 6th the next season? And in that same exact time, Kenny Daglish wins the double in his first season.

Second stint, half season not so bad but first full season terrible but people forget the nightmare we were in 2 years before and a huge change of fortune is needed in all honesty. Improvements and progression is more than just about one (and a half) season.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Sensible signings is probably the part the owners are concerned about, and it makes perfect sense. 20 million for Henderson and Downing, 35 million for Carroll just don't make any sense. Although I'd say Bellamy and Enrique are arguably the best players, and needless to emphasize on Luis Suarez. We could probably have signed somebody like Javi Martinez or Juan Mata, who are way better than Hendo or Downing. I understand Hendo and Carroll have the potential to be a decent players. Perhaps if we had signed them for one quarter or half of the price, the situation would have been a lot different. But still, thanks for everything Kenny. Once a legend, always a legend.

This post has been edited by vcj1992: May 17 2012, 04:28 AM

I don't see how FSG share the blames.
As club owner, he gave all the support needed by the manager, in particularly financial support.
What else he could do beside put his trust in Liverpool legend?

For the appointment of DOF, it was the money ball guy that recommended Comolli to Henry.
He had to trust these guys to deliver results.

It's not a problem. Workers that can't deliver job will be sacked. It's common in business world.

The problem only arised among fans, where some groups did not want to see KK sacked.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 17 2012, 04:29 AM

barcelona are looking to sign suarez

There are many articles rating the performance of KK.

Good football. Well, I see it bad in most games, including the carling cup final. We could hardly hold the opponent (adam sent the ball to the moon)

Depth of squad. As many pointed, we could have bought 3-5 world class players with the money we had.

p/s I don't rate Carroll a good signing. He still has a long way to prove.
I think Suarez is the best signing. But honestly speaking, he is still not the top scorer in the league. You can check how many goals he scored in 1.5 seasons. Not exactly "world class".

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 17 2012, 04:40 AM

My vote goes to, L. Van Gaal, L. Blanc or AVB.. Its gone b an exiciting summer.. New manager n new signings.. Could it open up the door for Maxi n Kuyt or asked to leave?

The English lads have home grown premium and Henderson and Carroll are ones for the future. Why do people harp on their fees but no mention of Phil Jones costing 16 million (shite anyways and younger than Henderson), De Gea (20 million and no home grown premium and also shite) and Chelsea paying 18 million for Lukaku (also no home ground premium) who hardly played a game there. Also part of the reason for their high fees is due to Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Real Madrid and Barcelona inflating the fees like crazy.

One reason we paid for Henderson, Downing and Adam I think is because they were three of the leagues chances creators and having played in the league already, it's completely understandable but players have proven that whether you are actually Premier League proven does not matter anymore.

As for Juan Mata, I would love him here but he would probably not come anyway but yeah, I agree, I would take Mata over Downing any day.

As for Martinez, I hope we do sign him this summer actually.

thanks for the memories, K Dalglish

gutted.


it will be difficult for liverpoolfc. its now likely we'll be years more in the wilderness.



The current core of the liverpool squad isn't good enough to crack into CL spot (any where near 4th spot next season), and I don't know any manager let alone rafa can pull it off. As much as i think rafa should be the candidate, i'm thinking its maybe premature for liverpoolfc investing in him. maybe FSG thinks rafa is difficult (hence afraid) and may get another round of fans to revolt if funds are streaming in???



i cant exactly would blame FSG for hiring KD back then (as some of the forumers pointed), They hired KD because WE the fans wanted Roy out AND at that time the popular sentiment from us was towards KD. Liverpool didnt have much time as we were close to trelegation then, what KD did for the next 6 months gave the impression he's up for it. How can FSG not employ KD after what we all thought too he 'saved' us & brought us close to fighting for places in 2010-2011. What happened in 2011-2012 completely spoiled for KD (which is partly his believe in the downing, adam, henderson and the complete waste of money on carroll)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 04:50 AM

What could he do ? Simple. Leadership. But when you start hiring people and then sacking them and then repeating the process again and again. People will start wondering whether you are making the right decisions. Surely you can understand at least that much.

My beef is not with the sacking of Kenny but the lack of leadership from FSG. And no i don;t consider sacking people as showing leadership either. The club has to do much more than that.

This post has been edited by hfi: May 17 2012, 04:53 AM

Fans to revolt? I think that should not be the reason to sack the manager.

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Added on May 17, 2012, 4:52 amIn football world, this has been the case.
We see sacking of managers every season.

The club owners have to weigh the decision, on how to deal with the managers that fail to deliver results.
That is the role. For me, it is part of the leadership in shipping out the poor performers.
After all it is the owner paying the switching cost (compensations, contract terminations,etc)

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 17 2012, 04:52 AM

H&G

i'm pretty sure rafa help to point out the glaring non supporting then owners to the fans (hence the big dissatisfaction displayed/banners of the "owners out")

having said that, i see the end of carrager, bellamy & probably even gerrard careers if rafa comes back. i think the owners will go for Roberto Martinez, though i fancy Jürgen Klopp

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 05:07 AM

Well, Liverpool could always reject or try to negotiate if the price was too high. Why sign Henderson for 20 million when we had Meireles and Aquaman at that time? Don't forget Hendo was signed in early June, so Meireles was still quite settled in the Liverpool team. Plus, why are we so bothered about HG status when we weren't even in Europe! (I know EPL has its own HG regulations) For the others, I am pretty sure fans from those teams have their own complaints anyway but to be honest I don't think Jones was shite. In fact I thought it was a decent buy for United. Oh and, remember how De Gea had his own criticisms as well sometime during mid-season? As for Lukaku, he hasn't really been playing a lot of football, so Chelsea's poor result basically has nothing to do with him. Whereas players like Adam, Henderson and Downing constantly hit the starting lineup, and their failure was perhaps the main reason for Kenny's departure. Would have been different if Kenny had dropped them when they were out of form.

On a side note, good to hear that Steve Clarke is still at Liverpool and Roberto Martinez is not shortlisted according to Ian Ayre.

This post has been edited by vcj1992: May 17 2012, 04:59 AM