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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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post May 18 2012, 06:04 AM

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Liverpool scout tells Italian clubs that Luis Suarez isn't going anywhere in odd interview

It's been a busy week for Liverpool, Kenny Dalglish leaving as manager has led to a bit of a power vacuum and unsurprisingly foreign media have been using it as a chance to re-ignite transfer rumours surrounding Luis Suarez.

Within hours Calciomercato had it as their main story and the vultures seemed to be circling. Bizarrely TMW in Italy have managed to get an interview with top Liverpool scout Steve Hitchen and ask him about the striker's future.

On the rumours that he could be going to Juventus, Hitchen said "The situation is different than what is being written in Italy. No offers for Luis Suarez came from any club or from Juventus."

He was then asked to evaluate the striker for transfer purposes, which is an odd question to ask a Liverpool scout but he answered anyway "I cannot do an assessment, as Luis Suarez is not for sale. It's you in Italy who write these things. I want to be clear with you: we do not want to sell Suarez. Luis is our best player and will remain with us next year."

Ok, not much joy there for the transfer rumour hungry TMW, but what about Liverpool's supposed interest in Milos Krasic? "Krasic has been offered through his agent in recent months. Milos is a great player but we didn't need in January."

Do Liverpool want any players in Serie A? "In Italy there are good players, but it is a difficult time in the economy throughout the world football."

How about an Italian manager? "Apart from Mancini it is difficult for Italian coaches in England. It is also not easy to get an Italian coach."

TMW, desperate for anything resembling gossip, then ask about Balotelli "Balotelli is always interesting in everything he does. Balotelli is Balotelli."

And so concludes TMW's rather odd interview with a Liverpool scout.


damn funny hehe
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pep , rogers and klopp have already reject the interview..so now fav is still martinez, i heard rafa is invited to the interview as well
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QUOTE(all blacks @ May 19 2012, 05:58 AM)
SOS..
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...p.html?ITO=1490

http://www.kopsource.com/liverpool-make-benitez-approach/

now it seems the AVB is interested in liverpool after his chances of landing roma job has been taken by Montella while some source say FSG will not turn to benitez

"Associates of former Liverpool manager Rafa Benítez have also approached the club to request an interview with the American owners, Fenway Sports Group. Liverpool insist there is no prospect of Benítez returning."

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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 19 2012, 07:30 PM)
will the world laugh at us when we go through all 11 other managers and in the end all rejected us, only our last resort go to rafa? will he even snub us then? lol
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It seems that rafa approach FSG and requested for interview buy they rejected him.. I respect rafa for putting his reputation on the line by approaching them rather than wait for them to come knocking
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David dein set to be DOF
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 19 2012, 08:01 PM)
There are managers work in smaller clubs or lower league.
There are managers would like to work at Liverpool.
I don't see a problem there.


Added on May 19, 2012, 8:02 pm
Source, please.

If he really did, I think he really thinks he has unfinished work at Anfield.
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Sorry for my late reply.. Here is it http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ben...my_landing_page
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 19 2012, 09:31 PM)
yeah, KD did bring the club forward if you ask me... he changed and inspired the team alot, but he knows, rebuilding work and expectations is  high from KOP faithful, so, it's better if he leave and at least his legendary image is in tact. rather than makes thing worse, and he knows, it'll be better to let someone carry on his good work next season. i mean, players form has been inconsistent, but we can see what KD try to do and he's trying bring back the football style we desired... he laid the foundation which is tough, and next manager should carry on his good work... but this time.. i don't think we'll get huge budget for transfer... judging from the the fact they are getting the managers that work with tight budgets previously


Added on May 19, 2012, 9:34 pm

is the source reliable? because as far as im concerned, tribalfootball always give inaccurate gossips
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But now alot of web saying FSG have approach rafa

http://www.lfcstats.co.uk/2012/05/rafa-app...-kenny.html?m=1
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Well, pep until now did not came out n say he is not interested in Liverpool so anything still can happen and we totally got no idea who is exactly in the list and who are fav..But

Steve McManaman has told Liverpool the days of them being able to hand-pick their next manager are "long gone".
Former Anfield hero McManaman suggested anyone who thought the likes of Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho would be interested in replacing the sacked Kenny Dalglish was not "living in the real world".


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QUOTE(leftist @ May 20 2012, 12:02 AM)
nope...Roma hired Vicenzo Montella if im not mistaken..their former player
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yea , roma hired montella, thats why now AVB turn to his because beside roma we are the only one that have potential to be in top 4 who needs a manager. so basically instead of we choosing AVB its him who choose us after losing out on Roma top seat

not sure if anyone read this before.

THE SPIRIT OF SHANKLY LETTER TO FSG

Dear Mr Werner, Mr Henry and Mr Ayre
We are writing to you as we are concerned about the current situation that our football club finds itself in. It is a time of worry for supporters, not just because of the huge changes and the transformation that is happening in such a short time frame but the manner in which it is happening.

It may be that yourselves and the board of Liverpool Football Club have a vision you are working towards. It may be that you have implemented a strategy to deliver that vision and decisions are being made to work towards this. However, from the outside where supporters find themselves once again, it looks like a football club in disarray. Confusion and chaos seems to reign and no one is coming out of this with much credit, particularly the football club’s image and brand.

We need clear and pro-active communication, a confident message about the club’s plans that breeds confidence amongst supporters that we are moving in the right direction. Instead, we have silence and a lack of information or understanding on decisions being made.

Today we find ourselves with key positions at the football club vacant. Most notably, the position of Manager and the lack of afootballing man on the board. There has been much speculation, along with emails sent to supporters groups, on who is providing advice to yourselves. It may well be the case that this is speculation; however, it is understandable that there is speculation given the lack of clarity and information on who is deciding on matters, why and the timing of them.
We have seen both Damien Comolli and Kenny Dalglish removed from their positions, and the search for replacements is still ongoing. We do know that conversations have been held with individuals mentioned in today’s rumours about the football staff and those who have held these positions.

Mr Ayre has said today:

“I can tell you categorically that Alan Kayll and Paul Tompkins have had no input on the manager or anything else for that matter. I’ve seen a lot of that stuff being suggested and it’s nonsense.”

This is encouraging as it is the firm belief of Spirit Of Shankly that footballing decisions should be made by footballing men who are appropriately qualified. We know all too well of the mistakes that follow if this simple mantra is not adhered to.

Are suitably qualified individuals making these decisions?

Today, Ian Ayre gave an interview, talking about the removal of Kenny Dalglish as manager, in which he stated that “Winning the FA Cup wouldn’t have made any difference – it was never about an individual result. It was always about taking a review of the season in full.”
As supporters, we have always believed in the quote from Bill Shankly that “Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”.
To supporters, this is of massive importance. We know that success in football requires money. However, the quote from Ian Ayrewould lead us to believe that our focus is no longer on winning trophies but making money. In a season that has seen us end with one trophy out of the three available and narrowly miss out on a second, it is somewhat disrespectful to suggest to supporters that winning another trophy would not be good enough. It is also contradictory to what Ian Ayre himself said earlier in the month: “Anyone who was at the Carling Cup final or the semi-final against Everton will tell you that’s what being a Liverpool fan is all about. It might not have the biggest prize money or the biggest status, but it’s fantastic. You go to watch a football team every week because you want them to be successful and win things. John and Tom will be there on Saturday. That’s why you buy sports teams – to watch them compete for trophies”. Ian Ayre, May 2012.

Is it now the strategy of Liverpool FC to place greater importance upon generating revenues above winning trophies?

Today, communication and leadership is vital. As supporters we have seen all too clearly what a lack of communication from absentee owners leads to. There has been very limited dialogue through the Supporters Committee which is still in its infancy, but this has been mainly used by the club to get messages out, rather than the dialogue promised with supporters at the time of your takeover. At a time when a clear message is needed, it is somewhat embarrassing for supporters and the football club to see Twitter messages on who supporters think should be the next manager. We are Liverpool FC. We are better than that.

Ultimately, supporters remain in the dark once again about the plans for this football club moving forward. We find ourselves experiencing déjà vu, where boardroom decisions lead to more questions than they answer. If we all want to pull in the same direction, transparency is needed. As supporters we often offer blind devotion to our football team. Due to our history, we do not afford the same luxury to the football club. It is equally as important for you to trust in supporters, so that we can work together for the betterment of the football club, as it is for us to trust in you.

We ask that you speak with supporters – engage with a true representative cross section of supporters and work with supporters to provide solutions to our current problems. This will enable communication with supporters to take place in an open and accountable manner.
Hopefully hear from you soon.

Spirit Of Shankly

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ May 20 2012, 12:25 AM)
I like them SoS. They are keen observers of the welfare of the club.
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and the best part is the dun freaking care who the hell the owner is lol
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QUOTE(amirbashah @ May 20 2012, 01:32 AM)
Cant wait until LFC announce the new manager. Really hope it won't be Martinez.
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but i wonder when it will be..im just worry by then we might lose out on the transfer market..but even until now there's news about liverpool gonna make bid for this and that player after they have appointed a manager, so basically this mean the transfer will be handle by someone else now??
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QUOTE(jackjack1988 @ May 20 2012, 01:41 AM)
We are doing business behind 'closed door' and so we wont know who we signing  brows.gif
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but how can we are link to players when we dont even have manager yet? and it say liverpool will make a formal bid once new manager are appointed, so how are we suppose to know if the manager wants the player or not?
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 20 2012, 01:43 AM)
Anyone read this?

Liverpool: Forget Martinez & AVB, Deschamps Is The Man For The Job
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-spor...an-for-the-job/
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nice piece of story, didnt know he is so capable until i read this, but up until now no news linking him to liverpool except for the possible replacement list

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 20 2012, 02:15 AM)
Personally I think the dismissal of Kenny is justified. Had Hodgson spent 100mil and ended up in 8th place he would've been slated by fans. Kenny claims that his Liverpool team plays great football but only lacking in the finishing department, I somewhat disagree. It's pretty obvious that all this team can do is pass around in our own half pretending we are Barcelona whilst lacking creativity and flair in the final 3rd. Its true that we have been rather unlucky this season with all the shots hitting the post but that's not an excuse, his should have made signing a true out and out goal poaching striker a priority to compete with Suarez and Carroll. Splashing 20mil on Downing and 16mil on Henderson were horrendous decisions. 20mil for a player who didn't make an assist or scored a goal, when he was signed Kenny openly praised his high cross completion rate expecting him to create goal scoring opportunities from the wing for Andy Carroll. But he failed to realize that Downing has no pace and dribbling ability whatsoever to be effective from the wing, how do you expect someone to make plays from the wing when he can't dribble past even one defender. All I saw from him was standing around on the wing waiting for a pass and when he has the ball he passes it away because he can't find a way past the defender marking him. The signing of Henderson is somewhat more understandable because he is young and has the potential to succeed in the future. I'm not saying these players are bad players but at that price I'm pretty sure Kenny could've signed some foreign players that are cheaper and much better than those two.

Don't think reappointing Rafa is the right choice as well, thanks for his CL win but he won it with Houllier's team except for a few. He made some really poor signings at first but he finally got it right eventually and we came close to a title before his outburst at Fergie, maybe not entirely Rafa's fault we failed at the end but the beginning of the meltdown was when he wanted to get rid of Alonso for Barry. This decision baffled probably everyone who follows english football. Also to be honest under Rafa, we played some really boring football that's based on defense and closing down opponents forcing them into mistakes instead of focusing on creating our own chances. The tactical genius he is he often chooses certain tactics and players to counter our opponent's threats even at home games against lesser teams, why worry about them, why not attack and make them worry about us? I still miss Xabi very much  sad.gif

Roberto Martinez, poor choice! Wigan has been in the PL for 7 years, prior to Martinez's appointment they finished in 11th place under Steve Bruce, after his appointment it was relegation battle year after year showing no improvement whatsoever. Yes he had to operate under a tighter budget than it was for Bruce but look at Everton, Everton have one of the tightest budgets in the PL and they finished ahead of us this season (depressing!) Even newly promoted Norwich and Swansea who were tight on budget and lacking top flight experience did better than Martinez's Wigan.

Pep and Mourinho are nothing but fantasy for us when even Brendan Rodgers rejected our advances. Latest rumour is Michael Laudrup, not sure about him though, he has had some success with Getafe playing attacking football a few seasons back if I remembered right. Personally at this moment our best choice would probably be AVB. A protege of Sir Bobby Robson along with Mourinho, worked with Mourinho's championship winning team at Chelsea, had considerable success at Porto, plays free flowing attacking football, young and hungry, and most importantly he will want payback for what he received at Chelsea. Unlike Chelsea where there's a bunch of old guards who were resisting changes he was trying to implement, Liverpool are a club in transition and would be more willing to learn and revive the club together, player and manager. If FSG are willing to give him time to make his mark unlike Mr. Roman Impatient Abramovich, he would have more chance for succeeding with us than Chelsea.

YNWA

tl;dr = No Martinez, Yes AVB
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how could liverpool playing boring football under rafa when came back from 3 nil down in champion's league final? and remember how fast we close down our opponents and play attractive football to beat man utd,barcelona,real madrid and juventus??

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 20 2012, 04:40 AM)
So I guess you agree with Rafa's decision of replacing Alonso with Barry which I think is his biggest mistake with us. Went from 2nd place to 7th place the following season after Xabi's departure. That's the only complaint I have for Rafa.
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xabi alone cant cost us from 2nd to 7th, u got to think what about those players rafa wanted to bring in but there's no fund? we will never know what happen behind the club because im sure rafa is under pressure as well because the owner wanna get rid of him and he got to find a way to safeguard his position
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QUOTE(digilife @ May 20 2012, 04:42 AM)
Torres, in a way is worth 50Mil to Chelsea now...........
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if only he score then he is worth 50mil

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 20 2012, 04:46 AM)
oh wow drogba hero to zero?


Added on May 20, 2012, 4:47 amnot! LOL cech the hero!
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the problem with robben is he is abit selfish, even the commentator agree to that..

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Fans' fury as Martinez emerges as front runner for vacant Liverpool job

Liverpool fans have rounded on the club's decision-makers for considering Wigan's Roberto Martinez as a managerial successor to Kenny Dalglish.
Supporters abused managing director Ian Ayre at a race meeting at Aintree on Friday night and chanted the name of previous Anfield boss Rafael Benitez.
The general response from the club's followers to the prospect of Martinez being appointed has been underwhelming, and that is a concern after Roy Hodgson's ill-fated time at Anfield.

Anfield owner John W Henry insists they will appoint a young up-and-coming manager to replace the Scot, fired on Wednesday despite reaching two cup finals this season.
That means Martinez, Swansea manager Brendan Rodgers, former Chelsea boss Andre Villas- Boas and Dane Michael Laudrup could be in, but Benitez and former England manager Fabio Capello are out.

By discussing so many possible managers, the club have risked alienating candidates unhappy with having to take part in a 'beauty parade' and risking returning to their current clubs having failed to land the job.

Having felt Dalglish's approach was old-fashioned, the Anfield hierarchy do not view Capello as a serious contender given his difficulties getting the best out of England players at the last World Cup.
Benitez, who took Liverpool to Champions League finals in 2005 and 2007, is hurt he is not being considered given the lack of experience among the other candidates but Henry does not want a manager who is almost a cult figure among the fans, as Dalglish was.
With Henry and chairman Tom Werner in America, under-fire Ayre has had to bear the brunt of the fans' frustrations.

Liverpool have no manager, chief executive or head of sports science, while director of communications Ian Cotton has been replaced by American Jen Chang, who has no experience in football.
They hope, however, to announce a ground naming deal soon to give their next manager much-needed funds in the market.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz1vLwdSb9i

im guessing not much fund will be available for this season..
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so what will happen to spurs now since chelsea win it?
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 20 2012, 05:31 AM)
Unbelievable. Bus parking wins.
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