Juz now I ady hv enuff fund for t..o..p..r..e wait I need to be patient which one to get huh

u go for tenkey or tkl? i also finding a tkl to bring on the go, cause ducky too heavy to bring around

If u ask me, I definitely go for TKL coz im only using laptop, no planning to build a desktop..but a lil bit dissapointed becoz HHKB pro 2 dont have arrow keys

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Added on June 25, 2012, 5:17 pmbtw at my hometown I got some of alps based kb and they all so yellowish, but all using an AT connector, does anybody know how to convert it into ps2 or usb?

This post has been edited by dragorc: Jun 25 2012, 05:17 PM

actually how many mkb you guys keep heh? i got only one, and dont know should i be getting another with same brown switch, tkl, or not. also you guys have such a wide budget to be able to keep so many kb at a time. please advice..

Or you can buy a big one and a small wove to bring around.

Even if using desktop, I use the hhkb. I only buy full sIze if it is vintage type. At to ps2 converters, can go lowyat or eBay to get it.

That depends on how much you like that switch. Lucidlts has a bunch of black switch. I buy multiple types and try not to repeat.

if only your kbt race is white led.. i might consider

what so special wif vintage one? is it coz of they using buckling spring?

As mentioned previously, I like this Realforce 87UW 45g. It's a really solid board.

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Added on June 25, 2012, 8:57 pmThe quality of some vintage keyboards are so good that they will never be reproduced at a decent price. Design (e.g. buckling springs), materials (metal, not plastic), and timeless technology (e.g. capacitive switches) set some old keyboards apart. Some were expensive to make (e.g. IBM Model F keyboards), much like the Topre boards of today. The difference is that those IBM keyboards will last till you die, but there is some question about the durability of the Topre switch. Apparently, the rubber of Topre switches get stiff over time (like rubber bands)... I also read somewhere they become mushy - seems a little contradictory to me. If you think about it, it makes sense - rubber cannot last forever, whereas those buckling springs seem durable enough.

This post has been edited by epiguru: Jun 25 2012, 08:57 PM

Yes they are special. That's why i go for a Model M over a unicomp. Plus model Ms are cheaper.

Wise choice. I read quite often that Unicomp boards fail whereas Model Ms seem to be quite durable despite being 25 years old or even older. If there is anything wrong with Model Ms, it's usually the broken plastic rivets or the LEDs not working. The plastic rivets can be fixed by bolt modding, and the LEDs can be replaced if necessary.

agree rubber will not last overtime and they quite fragile too unless there r sophisticated technology were invented inside the rubber..so bout the buckling spring, did its quality can be compare to cherrys? Ya no argueable bout the rubber itself coz its good to be true, sure will dead someday, yet i need to rethinks again n again

Arguably, BS > Cherry MX in term of durability/wear resistant.

Cherry MX switch still have some plastic parts and those plastic contact parts are subjected to wear as time and usage increase(but need not be too worry as it is still perfectly functional even with those wear, and it took a long time to cause a significant wear).

BS on the other hand is handled by the spring itself, thus the durability is close to unmatched.

To get best of both worlds, why not get both BS and also Topre? like what epicguru does, LOL.

2kbs aren't too much consider average of us here having at least 2-3kbs. Those collectors may have even more.

This post has been edited by Human10: Jun 25 2012, 11:19 PM

at least topre itself could stand around 10-15 years, even 5 years shud enuff for me to only use one keyboard or let say 2 years..ya will considering gettin the BS too as many most pro2 here did collect them..btw I juz did order RGB keycaps from epiguru so want or not I shud buy at least one BS keyboard if not the keycaps will be wasted

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Added on June 25, 2012, 11:41 pmbtw epiguru, u hav tat topre for sale?

This post has been edited by dragorc: Jun 25 2012, 11:41 PM

I think I wil try this, use them for a few day each, then really find out which one really suit me best and then decide which one to sell.

There is higher chance that I will be selling my HHKB, since I have a red switch Leopold, which has similar touch to the silent realforce,
I always have problem switching between switches that is very different...

Epiguru, you were temped by HHKB too right?
if you are still interested by the time I decided to sell it, I will give you a special price
and btw I don't think the HHKB value can go any much lower, since its 6 years old.

This post has been edited by kaysa: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 AM

special price oh so red switch oso similar to those topre silent? so interesting...one leopold pls

I owe Epiguru some favor before, thus special price.

Similar to Topre...
zzz I m saying this myself now,
and not long ago I m calling people ignorant for saying that topre are similar to a membrane keyboars...

Truth to be told, there is similarity, as I say, you need to try them yourself to be sure of all the touches
of different switches, but the durability and built quality, you need proof from old user of the product to
testify them.

I used to have a buckling spring kb around the house bout 10-12 years ago. used to play 'business' pretend game (kb as cash register), and i still can remember vaguely how it feels. Then i threw it away . If i only knew what it was i would've kept it .

How much does model M cost nowadays?

how old r u 10 years ago

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Added on June 26, 2012, 1:03 amya bro tats what I need to do before decide which one t buy the switch that i ever test before was black switch from SS 6gv2 n I can say almost want to buy it huhu. I cant imagine if i touch the topres haha

This post has been edited by dragorc: Jun 26 2012, 01:03 AM

New one 100% extinct in Malaysia.
Used one also extremely rare, and probably no much ppl know its value.

So that mean by any chance if you met one, you probably can get it at no cost.

If you insist on a new one. Your best bet are ebay US or UNICOMP.

This post has been edited by Human10: Jun 26 2012, 01:41 AM

Rm130+ shipped from Taobao. Lottery condition
RM200 w/o shipping from US, you get to choose
RM300+ w/o shipping for new Blue Label (possibly 82G/52G series) at ebay
Expect to pay way more for 1391401 NIB.

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Jun 26 2012, 08:27 AM