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Protn Preve failed, spot it on le way back home
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MrssV
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Apr 21 2012, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 21 2012, 11:43 PM) basically from previous official statement, it says front wheel flew up and landed down.. but i guess rear wheel didn;t follow the same path/trajectory of the front wheel.. That mean the S.A wanna do rempit willies. That gotta be some awkward/awesome landing. This post has been edited by MrssV: Apr 21 2012, 11:48 PM
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FormalCat
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Apr 21 2012, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(gastacopz @ Apr 21 2012, 11:21 PM) d circle on 2nd pic where the preve hit it wif Right wheel....thus kaputtt » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Very informative  explains a lot. Best post in topic
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ar188
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Apr 21 2012, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(MrssV @ Apr 21 2012, 11:47 PM) That mean the S.A wanna do rempit willies. That gotta be some awkward/awesome landing. from the kerb damage to where it stopped via emergency brake, could be 10-15meters.. 3-4 car lengths.. based on kerb weight can estimate how fast the car was going..
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SUSproject68
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Apr 21 2012, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 21 2012, 11:49 PM) from the kerb damage to where it stopped via emergency brake, could be 10-15meters.. 3-4 car lengths.. based on kerb weight can estimate how fast the car was going..  i fail physic
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ar188
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Apr 21 2012, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(ynot @ Apr 21 2012, 11:46 PM) i promise myself to quit drinking until end of the week  haha being a good boy this week eh?
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ekudz
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Apr 21 2012, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 21 2012, 11:49 PM) from the kerb damage to where it stopped via emergency brake, could be 10-15meters.. 3-4 car lengths.. based on kerb weight can estimate how fast the car was going..  i dont think SA was going 120KMH.. Maybe 220KMH ..
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FormalCat
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Apr 21 2012, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Apr 21 2012, 11:52 PM) i dont think SA was going 120KMH.. Maybe 220KMH ..  Yea 220 sounds right
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ar188
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Apr 21 2012, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 21 2012, 11:51 PM) i fail physic  no need to be form 5 grad.  .. you take your car roughtly C segment type, drive 50kmh or 70kmh etc and slam the brakes (make sure no abs type) .. see how far lor , if around 10-12meters , that's about it, give or take..
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duan
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Apr 21 2012, 11:55 PM
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Don’t you think that if occurrence probability this lower arm broken issue is high proton would already halt all the test drive throughout Malaysia drive by today? If the not, the same problem happen today and experience by customer itself instead of SA Proton already doom, they are not that stupid to put their neck to be slaughter by media and rival unless they really sure that this is not a design issue and it would not happen again with simple trigger condition.
Or possibly proton engineer didn’t sleep overnight last night try to solve this issue, produce a new lower arm and send throughout Malaysia and install to the test drive car and make like nothing happen today? But this does not make sense, any car production process will undergo strict test, lower arm issue should be detected earlier, not during the 4th day of the test.
If you have friend as SA please ask them either Proton ever change the lower arm to the new one?
This post has been edited by duan: Apr 21 2012, 11:55 PM
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MrssV
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Apr 21 2012, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 21 2012, 11:53 PM) no need to be form 5 grad.  .. you take your car roughtly C segment type, drive 50kmh or 70kmh etc and slam the brakes (make sure no abs type) .. see how far lor , if around 10-12meters , that's about it, give or take..  but without knowing how high the front got lift off, is sort of impossible to really determined the accurate speed. Imagine your car front lift off with rear still on the ground, panic, pull hand brake. Awkward stop, awesome "landing". Like a jack hammer with front as a head, and rear tire as pivot. This post has been edited by MrssV: Apr 21 2012, 11:59 PM
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stinger82
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Apr 22 2012, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(duan @ Apr 21 2012, 11:55 PM) Don’t you think that if occurrence probability this lower arm broken issue is high proton would already halt all the test drive throughout Malaysia drive by today? If the not, the same problem happen today and experience by customer itself instead of SA Proton already doom, they are not that stupid to put their neck to be slaughter by media and rival unless they really sure that this is not a design issue and it would not happen again with simple trigger condition. Or possibly proton engineer didn’t sleep overnight last night try to solve this issue, produce a new lower arm and send throughout Malaysia and install to the test drive car and make like nothing happen today? But this does not make sense, any car production process will undergo strict test, lower arm issue should be detected earlier, not during the 4th day of the test. If you have friend as SA please ask them either Proton ever change the lower arm to the new one? so, problems like gen2 caught fire and saga high fc and power window problem is purposely made? or they buat tak tau? u think they care so much? with your theory ferrari wont caught fire already.
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kamfoo
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Apr 22 2012, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(duan @ Apr 21 2012, 11:55 PM) Don’t you think that if occurrence probability this lower arm broken issue is high proton would already halt all the test drive throughout Malaysia drive by today? If the not, the same problem happen today and experience by customer itself instead of SA Proton already doom, they are not that stupid to put their neck to be slaughter by media and rival unless they really sure that this is not a design issue and it would not happen again with simple trigger condition. Or possibly proton engineer didn’t sleep overnight last night try to solve this issue, produce a new lower arm and send throughout Malaysia and install to the test drive car and make like nothing happen today? But this does not make sense, any car production process will undergo strict test, lower arm issue should be detected earlier, not during the 4th day of the test. If you have friend as SA please ask them either Proton ever change the lower arm to the new one? maybe all needed was a few screws and tightening
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hanieyf
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Apr 22 2012, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(matmoto5125 @ Apr 21 2012, 11:23 PM) Just back from second test drive session. Just to confirm the first round result. This is the pecking order: NVH = Inspira 2.0 > Elantra 1.8 > Preve 1.6 Performance = Inspira 2.0 >>> Preve 1.6 ≈ Elantra 1.8 Response = Inspira 2.0 > Elantra 1.8 > Preve 1.6 Handling = Inspira 2.0 >> Preve 1.6 ≈ Elantra 1.8 Overall = Inspira >> all I'm not trolling. This is my stand. Tq. hahahaha, serious ?
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FormalCat
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Apr 22 2012, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 22 2012, 12:01 AM) so, problems like gen2 caught fire and saga high fc and power window problem is purposely made? or they buat tak tau? u think they care so much? with your theory ferrari wont caught fire already. Fire? Power window? What?
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ar188
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Apr 22 2012, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(MrssV @ Apr 21 2012, 11:58 PM) but without knowing how high the front got lift off, is sort of impossible to really determined the accurate speed. Imagine your car front lift off with rear still on the ground, panic, pull hand brake. Awkward stop, awesome "landing". Like a jack hammer with front as a head, and rear tire as pivot. no need to be accurate, just need to be lower than a car with 4 wheels on the ground doing braking,. usually car got 70+% braking force in front.. so if one wheel off, means brakes severly reduced.. hence braking distance should be greater. anyway math show 50kmh is around 12.3meter.. 
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ar188
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Apr 22 2012, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Apr 22 2012, 12:08 AM) his conclusion seem to agree with stimix assessment just now.. that 2L cars still ahead of preve wor.. despite 9.6seconds rating and turbo power.
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FrostLance
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Apr 22 2012, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2012, 12:15 AM) his conclusion seem to agree with stimix assessment just now.. that 2L cars still ahead of preve wor.. despite 9.6seconds rating and turbo power. the CVT is the bottleneck for the preve.
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D-Frog
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Apr 22 2012, 12:17 AM
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I wang start war, how ah?
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FrostLance
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Apr 22 2012, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Apr 22 2012, 12:17 AM) I wang start war, how ah? you can start by posting the same reposted pictar
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hanieyf
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Apr 22 2012, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2012, 12:15 AM) his conclusion seem to agree with stimix assessment just now.. that 2L cars still ahead of preve wor.. despite 9.6seconds rating and turbo power. wow, need to buy inspira lah gini
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