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 Ivy Bridge Overclocking V1 | 3770K/3570K | Z77, Torture Your CPU, Post It Here!

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post Apr 15 2013, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Apr 15 2013, 10:11 PM)
Thanks! I like X60 but to be honest the stock fans are rather noisy at max speed, running with Silent profile for daily use and Custom for benchies. Do you think I can further reduce load temps by applying a good thermal paste like Prolimatech PK-3? hmm.gif
This test was ran in an air-conditioned room with temperature set to 26 degrees, actual ambient I'm not sure... But can't be too far off laugh.gif VCore is default +160mV as shown on screenie biggrin.gif
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I think changing TIM is not much helpful or zero improvement.
But no harm to try.
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post Apr 15 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Apr 15 2013, 10:34 PM)
Only way is to de-lid huh? sweat.gif Definitely not what I'm ready to do lol... I also did not clean off the old paste from IHS with any nail polish remover and IPA99%, only tissue paper, will this affect temps in anyway? If yes, then still have hope for improvement and motivation to buy new thermal paste laugh.gif
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Delid, and i can safely bet you will get 15-20c improvement with Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra/Pro. biggrin.gif
I don't always polish my IHS top with TIM remover, in my thoughts it will be diluted into the new TIM in the end.
Somehow I must say that it is a good practice.
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post Apr 16 2013, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(codenamew @ Apr 16 2013, 01:22 AM)
Do u think it is worth to delid when my chip can barely reach 4.7 at 1.39 vcore? Max keep hit 105 at that stage.
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For that CPU speed, I'd say it is an average chip hence not worth to delid.
A good 3570K is owned by wongtheboy92 which only requires 1.264v for 4.7GHz thumbup.gif

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post Apr 16 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(taxidoor @ Apr 16 2013, 09:19 AM)
I have try many time due the gflops

I have try i7 with 4.8ghz with 1333 ram my gflops about 103+-
With 4.8ghz with 2000 ram would 111 gflops
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I don't think RAM frequency will affect Gflops

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post Apr 16 2013, 12:52 PM

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Found an interesting PDF about Enhancing the Overclocking Experience on Intel® Enthusiast Desktop and Mobile Platforms
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post Apr 16 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(codenamew @ Apr 16 2013, 05:26 PM)
I read somewhere that gflops is affected by the background services running in our pc during Linx. In order to get the optimum result during Linx, better to leave the pc to idle for about 5mins then only start the Linx test. This is to ensure there is no background service running, it is also better to quit all of the applications prior running Linx test. I have tested this and all my Linx is above 120gflops for 3570k regardless of the memory speed. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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You may run LinX/IBT/prime95 in diagnostic mode, so that it won't be affected by windows background services and can use maximum RAM amount as possible as there would be more free mem available.

QUOTE(hypermax @ Apr 16 2013, 07:16 PM)
Still trying to figure out how to overclock my ivy bridge. It is a beast difficult to be tamed. Unlike sandy where u can just pump vcore and get stable overclocking, ivy bridge hates excessive vcore. The vcore has to be "just enough" for a overclock to be stable sweat.gif I got a lot of d124 error which was due to excessive vcore.

Also, I found other voltages like pll, vccsa, vccio actually play a role in the stability of the system even in modest overclock.
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I can't comment on your experience but IMO Ivy is a lot easier to overclock than Sandy, provided you have a good cooling gear to tame its temps.
Sandy is suffered from the infamous BSOD 124 (insufficient vCore) and deteriorating so quickly within a few days.
I have never heard of the Ivy hates excessive vCore. hmmm... doh.gif

vPLL doesn't help in overclocking at all. I used 1.35v to 1.8v also won't give any different in terms of overclockablity and stability.
VCCIO aka vIO = VTT and VCCSA aka vSA = IMC will help RAM overclocking ONLY, not CPU OC.

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Apr 16 2013, 11:57 PM)
Another test.

Had to remove the Storm Filter top air filter to get below 84 Celsius.

Bro, you are using an old version of Prime95.
The latest version as in post #1, good luck! notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(codenamew @ Apr 17 2013, 12:27 AM)
Did any of u here experience this? During my prime95 the bclk of my proc (3570k) suddenly jump up to 104.++ resulted in higher clock speed. From 4.5 to 4.680. Any idea? I did not tampered with the bclk setting.
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Don't trust AI Suite CPU Freq sensor when stressing this app goes nuts. nod.gif
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Apr 16 2013, 09:42 PM)
When I was stressing with prime, I can't pass half an hour no matter how much vcore I put in (upto 1.42) at 4.5ghz. I always get the BSOD 124. Then I came across an article on hardocp which states that increasing PLL to 1.9 helps. I did so and lowered my vcore down to 1.32v. Now my prime is entering its 3rd hour of testing. Every chip is unique I guess.

Btw, I am now using 16gb for ram populating all ram slots. I find that increasing VCCIO from 1.05 to 1.1 actually helps to stable the system. No sure though since I am still very new to IVY bridge overclocking. notworthy.gif
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Seems like increasing vPLL is helpful on stability and reducing vCore.

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Looks better than when vPLL is set to (1.35 - 1.8)v which failed in less than 2 hours. sad.gif


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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Apr 17 2013, 08:14 AM)
Got other links? Tried dowloading it, network too slow which disconnect itself.
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I think you can google for it. It is a 4.5MB compressed file.
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post Apr 17 2013, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Apr 17 2013, 09:40 AM)
Thanks,

Btw is it safe and stable to run 4.5ghz on 1.150 vcore?
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There is no such safe voltage.
Set and test for stability.

Intel recommended 1.52v as max vCore for Ivy.

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But who cares. tongue.gif

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post Apr 17 2013, 11:07 AM

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Bought these strong PSC kits recently.

Corsair GTX4 2533 C9
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KVR 1333 C9
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Stay tuned.
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Apr 17 2013, 11:19 AM)
Wa, KVR. I am interested to know the result of KVR  thumbup.gif

Anyway, finally got my system prime stable:

Previously can't even run prime for half an hour even at 1.42v vcore  sweat.gif

However, to be Aida64 stable needs much less voltage. And this is before i raise the PLL:

I will try to run my system at Aida stable voltage from now, see whether aida is reliable or not.
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The Prime95 runs looks great whilst AIDA64 does not stress that much amount of RAM I think that's the reason why it requires less vCore than prime. Yes, amount of RAM stressed also will affect vCore, vSA, vIO as well as vdimm.

Besides that, the less amount of RAM stressed, the less chance of error found. That's why LinX/IBT always label amount of RAM as level of stress.

Good luck!
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As promised, I'd would like share some results from the cheapo KVR 1333 C9 sticks, that might put some of the more expensive kits to shame HAHA laugh.gif

KVR 1333 C9 2 X 2GB 1.5v
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2400 7-11-8-28-1T @ 1.685v
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2500 8-12-8-28-1T @ 1.83v
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Apr 17 2013, 11:31 PM)
Wow, KVR is amazing.  thumbup.gif Btw, may i know is your kit cherry picked or randomly grabbed?
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Cherry picked biggrin.gif I bought it from seller with proofs of benchmark results.
Yes, it is a strong kit that you won't probably find one that easily.
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Today I have free time to spend with this highly binned Dominator GT kit. It is a strong kit which is able to do 2400 C6 on air. Sweet! biggrin.gif

Corsair Dominator GT GTX4 2 X 2GB
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2400 7-11-7-28-1T @ 1.66v
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2400 6-11-6-28-1T @ 1.89v
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2500 7-11-7-28-1T @ 1.78v
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2600 8-12-8-28-1T @ 1.84v
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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Apr 18 2013, 11:31 PM)
Reduced my PLL voltage from BIOS default of 1.85V (shouldn't it be 1.80V? rclxub.gif ) to 1.50V just now, doesn't seem to affect stability nor reduce temps. Only problem I've seen so far is a few apps like RealTemp and Intel XTU detecting wrong CPU clocks and wrong BCLK laugh.gif

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How come my RAMs running at 1866MHz, C9, 1T doesn't seem that much slower than your 2400MHz, C7? Except for latency hmm.gif
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Depends on your how your BIOS set the default voltage, it could be 1.8v or 1.85v or 1.9v etc. I believe vPLL effect on stability is dependent on what mobo you use and how it reacts to the voltage increment/decrement. So far, I FEEL that increasing vPLL from 1.8v (default) to 1.9v did give me better stability. I can run longer stress test without an error and more importantly it can reduce my vCore. I don't know why though but according to Asus rep's OC guide, vPLL won't effect overclocking, until hypermax highlighted this earlier. notworthy.gif

A single subtiming tweak can change this. Now see this biggrin.gif
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But indeed actually in real world you won't notice the difference between 1866 2400 or even 3000, unless during synthetic benchmarks.

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Found a nice mem OC guide for Ivy.

Memory Overclocking Guide for Intel Ivy Bridge platform

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Memory overclocking based on various IC

In this part I will try to show how to overclock more popular IC like PSC, Elpida BBSE, Hynix CFR, Samsung HCH9 and Micron D9.

PSC - can be found in many various 2x2GB kits with XMP 1600 6-8-6, 2000 8-9-8/9-9-9 , 2133 9-10-9/9-11-9/7-10-7, 2200 7-10-10, 2400  9-11-9, 2500 9-11-9 …etc.

Elpida BBSE/Hyper – can be found mainly in 2000 9-9-9 ( G.Skill Ripjaws, ADATA Xtreme ) kits but also in some others sometimes mixed with other Elpida chips

Hynix CFR/HC9- many different series like Patriot, Team or G.Skill 1866 9-11-9, 2133 9-11-10, 2400 10-12-11/10-12-12, 2600 11-13-13 … etc. Best series seem to be in RipjawsZ 2133/2400, TridentX 2400+ and Team 2400+

Samsung HCH9– lately it’s very popular IC mainly because there are really cheap OEM Samsung 1600 kits, but also because most 2400-2600 kits are based on HCH9 like most of new TridentX, Team Xtreem and some others.

Micron D9- new series of D9 are almost only in Crucial Ballistix memory 1600-2133.



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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Apr 19 2013, 10:53 AM)
dun like this la  tongue.gif 

btw, dell will release haswell on june ooo... fyi only biggrin.gif
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Good to hear that bro. It is known that other PC manufacturers will start selling Haswell in June as well.

According to my elder brother who is working for Intel based in Chandler Arizona, Haswell has been ready to release since last year but for some reason they take quite some time to launch it into the market.

His current project is Broadwell ramp-up stage. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Apr 19 2013, 11:37 AM)
broadwell will be on hold til further notice, OEM manufacturers making noise due to intel change proc too fast, unable to target buyer market.
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Want or don't want also they will release Broadwell as planned next year 2014.
I thought OEM mfrs will be happy with socket changes.
Because this will force end users to upgrade and they make more profits. No?
Besides that I don't think Intel R&D will stop there without new product in the lab.
Every time Intel have released a new CPU that has more features and performance it's required a new CPU socket.

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