Theyself taking ptptn to study and at same time protes cancel ptptn? jacky chan.jpg them man..

Cant brain why the protes protes.. no logik.. just protes cos its cool? Wat benefit they haf if cancel ptptn? They got money to study?

in b4 joe mamak ,khalpowers come and defend them

Instead of protesting, why don they (students) study hard and get 1st class.. ptptn loan automatically waived..

So, for those study hard student, education is always free of charged..

aiyo, those play play one, complaint here and there.. it is an embarrassment for themselves as a student..

so do u borrow PTPTN?

i suppork u bro

stupiark brain is stupid

yeah..first class grads ptptn waived right?

u think they can get 1st class with that attitude?

exactly..

those protester got time to protest, but no time for study.. haha..

If every1 get first class, the education system in Malaysia got serious problem..

why? so many clever ppl no good pulak??

posting in another ptptn thread.....

Not no good, but grade is to differentiate outstanding students, average students and poor students.. lolx (Excuse me for being materialistic, but the world is like this)
Unless the exam is too easy, everyone can score in the exam, but that will just make the entire education system seems fail..

One more thing, everyone is different, some good in study, some are not.. You cannot expect everyone to be Engineers, Doctors, and Professionals rite? There must be always a balance in between..

This post has been edited by t3arsCulprit: Apr 18 2012, 02:16 PM

well since education is free, i bet most of them will take those courses . who stupid enough to not be a professional?? and it's FREE

1st take LAW - too much reading rage quit
2nd ACCOUNTING - too much numbers, rage quit
3rd..
4th..

if everyone get first class...it no longer call first class....

there will be another level of first class....

and until 50 years old still study and havent settle down with what to study...

tangkap budak2 ni semua gi masuk penjara

hi bang...

I urge those students to commit full responsibility, if they are asking for free education aka first class student..
Playing all the time, not enuf commitment put onto study and end up blame government for not giving free education.. lol..

bukan mintak abolish

mintak free education la bahaloz

Protest people = People that knew they never get 1st class.

LOL

Will one day bank negara put PTPTN payback records as personal creditability score in CTOS?

if want sign and borrow and do not want to pay...how can bank approve loan to them?

later bank approved the loan, they go riot, then no need to pay back the loan...

that is why u shud know more

PTPTN is for education loan.EDUCATION. students use it for EDUCATION .u cant compare it with personal loan, housing loan, car loan etc

Feel like a legend ... superhero where they can brag in the future they are the one who have proposed free educations for the Malaysian and managed to eliminated 46 billions of debt like a boss .. sleep in the tents, attend a night class where in IPT they always object any night class... during the open lectures in Dataran, they would give a frequent feedback where in university, the lectures tend to be 1 way communication where they are very busy checking messages or surfing facebook

when you ask them what is their contributions, they would ask back .. what you have done? We are the national hero who give you the opportunities to spent the money like a boss instead of channeling the money to the national development or for the benefit of the other tax payers

from abg joe_mamak

then u got to understand... it is a LOAN, for different purpose...

it share the same concept and payback scheme...with lower interest/after graduate/grace period/whichever??

so if this also cannot pay, how to expect them to payback other loan??

they should be prepared the moment they sign the contract..

Car Loan -> sign contract -> be prepared to pay every month

Education Loan -> sign contract -> expect no need to pay

i cant brain this lo...

ek eleh bising lak orang nak protest.

ko tu mengaji pointer tak seberapa, padahal duk bilik main game, tgk muvi, layan blue. sama je otak lembu.

wat they want is free education

free education = no loan = no interest = after grad, go to work, baru buat loan sana loan sini for car, house, etc2

cancel ptptn => provide free education


thats the goal

why TS & alike cant see that?

its a proven record a country really can provide free education, its just us who didnt want to...instead, we approved gomen to provide FREE fuel for IPPs to generate excessive power & sold back with exorbitant price to TNB at the expense of gomen moneh

This post has been edited by keown83: Apr 18 2012, 02:42 PM

Better start protesting for not getting free lunch & dinner.

you have your point, but as for individual..

i recommend this book again...

http://www.whywewantyoutoberich.com/

is this true? when did they implement this? sos pls. during my time theres no such thing.

bcoz we want to create a merit based system..u work hard u get it.

not that you dont work hard,u fail papers, u dont worry, not your money,its taxpayers money

PTPTN == cover tuition fees and living costs

Free Education == Free tuition Fees
Free Education != allowances
Abolish PTPTN and free Education== No allowances

Free Tuition Fees and Allowance == get you fc...ng scholarship or get 1st class


It is a proven record in other country? No, get your facts right .. you still have to pay for the administration fees and need to support your living cost.

Who is eligible for exemption from loan repayment?

Eligible borrowers are borrowers whose loan are approved before 1 July 2005 and those who complete their bachelor’s degree studies with first class honours.

sos

sure u can apply.
but u think everyone can enter?

just like harvard nao what.
so many ppl apply, how many can enter?

merit???

hahahahhahalaughingcowboy.jpg

russell peters is that u?

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Apr 18 2012, 02:53 PM

judging from your reply,you are PTPTN loaner and have low cgpa..now you want it to be free rite?

sudahlah hazremi, mase shahrizat letak lembu dalam kondo x nampak plak ko bising2 pasal membazir duit kerajaan ke ape.. skang nak bising2 macam anjing plak.. ptuih..

betol

sorry dude.

PTPTN and JPA fly to me face. i also didnt sign.

truestory bro

They already have money to study (paid by parents), they just needed extra money to buy things they can't afford.

anjing kurap......kesiannnnn...

abg khalpowers ... tak kije ke?

tak masuk opis dah ptg ni....

Real boss

Can please table out the details?

All the term is written when signing the agreement. they dont even force u to take their loan.

How can a degree holder say such things

May the force be with u.

tension kan?

nak buat camne bro .. dlu nak stadi takde duit tpakse la pinjam ptptn ... skarang keje gaji 970 je .. ko gile ke ape .. 4 rat ko bayar tinggal 570 ... kesian kesian <sarcasm_sarcasm> ..............

saudara, saya tak pernah kata kes NFC tak membazir. sekiranya ada elemen penyelewengan,wajib didakwa.ini saya sokong.be it BN or PR.

People who are stupid are not qualified to take the courses..
Of course you can choose to take many courses, but time's tick tock.. when you are getting old, no one will feed you..

Actually.. Public Uni courses is very cheap.. I took my Degree courses for 3 and a half years is only 4k++ lolx..
Most of the money use in accommodation and daily expenses..

malaysia got lots of money, mostly from our natural resources.

because of BN, it's either:

1. spend that money to provide free education

or:

2. dump more rakyat's money to IPPs, PKFZs, COWndos, 30k laptops, 1.5k screwdrivers, son's porsches, dan lagi, dan lagi, dan lagi...

if BN is efficient at managing rakyat's money, you think anybody will make such unusual requests?

Usually on this matter, I am defending their right to protest.

Same like your case. I might not like what you say but I will defend your right to say it.

Faham?

cause they spend all money to ipong n ipad3 this coming friday...

finally someone that make sense

This post has been edited by dr2k3: Apr 18 2012, 05:58 PM

we cant denied that certain group of rakyat get to have the money...

ETP programs already help a lot of citizen and it was proven beneficial to citizens... instead of channeling the money to pay back the gov agencies where PTPTN previously borrow the money ... and currently there are the limited spaces of spot and stiff competition as the IPTS would need to closed down and cause unrest among the races due to certain factors... I prefer the money to be channel for ETP or other national development instead of causing more unrest in the future

I and millions of people have benefited from the ETP programs regardless what are the accusations... so, instead of pointing finger to the corruptions that are still in the trial in court, why don't you take on the positive sides of the recent direct contributions of the current gov. Which one better, RM 46 billion to all tax payers or for the benefit of the students who failed their scholarship interview and doesn't get 1st class at the end of their course to get the waiver?

This post has been edited by Irzani: Apr 18 2012, 06:22 PM

sbb tu org ckp blaja tinggi2 masuk U pun still bodoh..dun know how to think rational..

This will not work dude.

1. This will further longkang-drop our IPTA standard because everyone graduating will be first class. Sounds familiar? Yeah just like Matrikulasi.

2. This will generate exam oriented graduates because everyone will be fighting for A's. Again familiar? SPM. They will have no skills other than taking exam

Camni

MASUK PENJARA NAK? Penjara offer
-x yah keje
-makan free
-kena tumbuk sikit(protes pandai buat tahanla sikit bro and sis)

If so many people got 1st class and ptptn has to waive the loan, I'm sure they will lose money. As a result,in the future, they will amend their policy stating all students must pay back full amount plus interest regardless of they're getting 1st class or not.

cool story bro ...degree out with salary rm970 ..u can buang your cert into tong sampah

if 1st class waived ptptn loan ...soon u will see market flooded with bunch of unqualified 1st class honor

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Apr 18 2012, 06:58 PM

how come? ...standard office boy at my dad working company also got 1.3k + spm lv somemore

dunno ..ayam fresh graduate and bunch of jobs offers

probably lucky in economy ..btw what is your background?

I have no problem with free education.
however the free education only apply to Government U and colleges only, not Private college and U.
But I dun agree with those who borrow dun wan payback.
instead of going for protest how about going for part time job.
IIRC, in some countries they offer part time job for the student to support their student life without disrupting their studies.
We should let them know nothing come free, you need to earn it.

this protest has showed how ignorance are students nowadays in malaysia,

There ain't such thing as free lunch in this world,behind the free lunch someone has to bear the cost of it,

if u r expecting a free tertiary education then who's going to pay all sorts of expenses in the universities,at the end the costs will be diverted to the people in this country and this resulted a heavy taxes to the people.

For example rm200 book voucher,a political candy gave by the gomen,has worsen the gomen financial deficit which is already in a critical condition and ended up we as a taxpayers got to cover up the deficit.

FYI even in developed country such as uk ,usa there is no such thing as free uni education, they nid to either get a bank loan or part time job to pay for their living and tuition fee.

So pls dun spend your time on this trivial and pointless issue and aim for a more holistic problems that faced by m'sia now,(e.g systematic corruption,economics equity,education reform,electoral reform etc) so that everyone in this country has a equal opportunity to maximize their potentials regardless what races u r, what's ur belief and where r u from as long as u work hard and play by the rules.

education yang kena bayar pun pointer ke longkang , kalau free memang terus masuk kubur la pointer. this is fact.

straight to the point

i agree to free education up to form 5/form 6(i know its "free") or after current ptptn loaner payback the dues.


wish it come true so i dun need to work long then only got enough money to take masters.

Obviously PTPTN is a blunder that needs to be removed and the student debt has to be written off. We need to go back to the drawing board for a new and comprehensive education policy from primary to secondary and tertiary level. A new formula must be found. A formula that is best for the country and its future generation. And if the demand is of some standard and quality, it is not going to be cheap either. But going by the way the government is spending at the moment, I doubt that we do not have the money to fund a new education system.

You should quote something else too. Someone said it is now semester break.

Break lah wei. Some people balik hometown, some go KLCC lepak, some go holiday, these go camping.

ala abang ni. jgn la marah. saya tau tgh semester break sekarang ni.

sudah pinjam x mau bayar balik, bodoh.. masa pinjam isi borang panjang macam kamus oxford pun sanggup, suruh bayar balik nak abolish pula.. apa punya banggang ni manusia.. x mau susah jgn pinjam la..

posting in another ptptn thread... even if you're fighting for free education, but you have taken a study loan, pay it back. what's the fuss about?

Eh? I mana ada marah?

how about give free education next year on wards.
those still hutang ptptn should still payback since what you signed is a loan.
no more pinjam onwards. living cost sendiri pikir since education fee already is free.

mintak belajar percuma + tak mau bayar cukai = negara akan maju.

kesian sapa yg berkhemah tu...
dan lagi kesian kepada keyboard warrior yang suppork mereka pun..

Cut what?

Now What the important of PTPTN? :
-giv education loan
-giv people chance to study
-income for gomen

hutang mesti kena bayar...tp klo dpt free EDUCATION syukur...