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 The Weight Loss Thread v3, Ask your weight loss questions here.

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alien9
post Jul 6 2012, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jul 6 2012, 10:36 PM)
Basically some cardio workout smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLK28BHJDd8
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The usage of word cardio is absolutely wrong there.

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post Jul 6 2012, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jul 6 2012, 11:52 PM)
7 months & you're still alive?! haha me 5.5 months and counting. tongue.gif

Btw do you guys use standard weighing scale or the ones with body fat/water measurement thinggy? Price diff for manual to digital to the body fat/water function is a huge gap, but worth the investment?
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Buy the normal scale and a fat caliper to calculate body fat percentage. It's cheaper that way plus BEI machine (the digital scale with measurement thingy) gave not so accurate measurement.
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post Jul 7 2012, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 7 2012, 12:00 AM)
I have a manual and digital scale at home, both says 75.5kgs but if i weigh myself at the gym, i weigh 78kgs...  Which one should i follow? Gym weighing scales, they're the ones with the ermm, you know, the one where you can measure your height at the same time. hmm.gif
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choose either one and stick to it. that way, you can eliminate possible variables that might affecting your weight gain/loss; if your weighing scale is a high quality one. low quality might have a defect and/or inaccurate reading.
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post Jul 7 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 7 2012, 09:55 AM)
Want to lose another 3 more kgs and tone up. I've only manage to make a nice shape for abs but thighs and arms still ugly and flabby and no shape yet. Body fat at about 19% for my last check
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You don't have to worry much, Just continue having a healthy diet, doing exercises and those toned body that you want will come. Low metabolism is a signed of low muscle mass (one of it).

I guess that maybe you like a body something like this no?
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This is here bodyspace url: http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/BTacy2/

p.s: I'll love to get a girl with that kind of body blush.gif
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@Sarah Angelina

QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 7 2012, 09:55 AM)
Want to lose another 3 more kgs and tone up. I've only manage to make a nice shape for abs but thighs and arms still ugly and flabby and no shape yet. Body fat at about 19% for my last check
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Another 'great' person that I think that you can learn from is Lindsay Cappotelli.

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This is here training log, maybe you can learn something or ask her directly.
http://lindsaystraininglog.blogspot.com/

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post Jul 7 2012, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 7 2012, 05:58 PM)
hmm..my biceps have visible veins, but you can't really feel the bump on my skin. Now just waiting to see those veins that stretch from my fingers right up to my arm..if it's possible. tongue.gif

hais, not sure whether I should bulk up or cut now. 83kg, 188cm..feel like bulking up, but I still have fats around my tummy area. sad.gif my heart wants to bulk, but my eyes tell me to cut.
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My suggestion is to bulk a little, to increase your muscle mass (of course) and your BMR will increase to. It will help you in cutting. Or you can always bulk and then do your cutting phase. 83kg for 188cm is not fat.
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post Jul 9 2012, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 9 2012, 07:54 PM)
my food intake is always bothering me, I'm not very confident whether it suits my current lifestyle which is cutting. I'm 188cm, 84kg and I go to the gym everyday except for Sundays which I would do a 3km run instead.

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do you think it's okay for cutting? hmm.gif
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For Monday, how much calorie do you consume?
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post Jul 9 2012, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 9 2012, 08:07 PM)
the last time I calculated it was around 1200kcal-1300kcal. smile.gif it won't exceed 1300kcal on weekdays, but weekends is definitely much more.
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Wow, that is extremely low. Are you trying to be anorexia? I am 168cm with 91kg and the lowest I go is 2000kcal. That is just borderline low calorie for me. Any lower than that, my muscle will start to breakdown a lot and my BMR will start to plummet.
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QUOTE(denieru @ Jul 10 2012, 01:37 AM)
Hi, Im here to seek advice from sifus icon_question.gif

18yo, 95kg, 170cm. *Dreaming to wear those M and L size cloth I bought before next CNY biggrin.gif

Breakfast, 730am: Mostly a cup of Teh C + Kolo Mee / Fried Kuehtiaw
Lunch, 1200pm: Rice, 1meat 2vege / 2meat 2 vege
Dinner, 600pm: (same thing as lunch)
No supper.

I want to lose fats and get my body into better shape. Currently doing some workout and cardio 4days a week.

How can I improve my lifestyle? What kind of workout and cardio I should do when I'm at the gym? Is 4days a week enough? With my body condition, is protein shake recommended?

Thanks alot! rclxm9.gif
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Calculate your calorie maintenance first. How? Find your BMR. Then we can talk more. You want to be in good shape before CNY? You have to follow the correct path.

BTW, 90kg at 170cm can let you wear L shirt already biggrin.gif

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post Jul 10 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 10 2012, 04:57 PM)
I'm trying to loose fats and weights faster, so I figured out lowering my calorie intake more will prolly help.
Aaaahhhh..sometimes it's pretty frustrating to see the belly there after 2 months. sad.gif

less calories will lead to muscle breakdown? Interesting. hmm.gif
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Yup. You can always google for it. The lowest that you can go is 80% from your calorie maintenance @TDEE. Any lower than that would be unhealthy and your muscles will start to breakdown more (whenever you are in calorie deficit, your muscle will start to breakdown).

That is what most meal replacement products go for. A very low calorie diet where they can say that you can lose like 10kg per month. The weight reduction is not fat only but muscles + fat + water weight. Ever seen a meal product replacement that have a muscular body? There is some but it is very unlikely that they use it to get their body.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 10 2012, 08:30 PM)
Random topic
Are fat burners good or bad?
If bad, what are the side effects?
Thanks smile.gif
( I'm not taking fat burners, i'm just doing some research on it for fun, dont get me wrong. Lol. )
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Speaking from a fat burner consumer. I've tried OxyElite Pro once when I want to start my weight loss routine.
Basically it depends, some say it is not natural thus it is not healthy. Some say it helps, so it is a good thing.

What I got from OxyElite Pro is that (usually most of the fat burners have this):
1. Appetite Suppressant - The problem with overweight people is that they cannot curb their appetite. Some of them have a great willpower to control their appetite but mostly don't. So, having an appetite suppressant is a good thing where it can limit your food intake thus the possibility of calorie in will be much lower that calorie out.

2. Energy Booster - When we are in calorie deficit, we don't have that much of energy thus energy booster really help to do what we used to do everyday. It is downright demotivating when you are tired all the day because of the insufficient energy due to consuming less food. Feels like eating is a very good option at that time right.

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If you have ample knowledge about losing weight, then you don't need one. I just need a bottle and after that it is all natural for me.


Side Effect:

It is totally depend on the person.
1. Caffeine (Stimulant) - Some people don't react well with caffeine so there is a stimulant free fat burners.
2. Excessive sweating - Some products such as Polythermax have this side effect. I actually thought that OxyElite Pro is not working because I don't sweat.
3. Increase Heartrate - Usually caused by 1,3 - Dimethylamylamine. People with hypertension should not consume this products.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 10 2012, 09:13 PM)
Are you studying sports science? Your answers are always in detail & amazing  thumbup.gif
Some say fat burners causes various kind of damages to the heart?
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No man. My degree is far from any science stream but I take that as complement. Not saying that my answers are correct but I like to read biggrin.gif

Recent cases of a few months backs where lots of fat burners and pre-wo that contain 1,3-Dimethylamylamine, have being banned from being produced because the ingredient suspected to cause heart attack. Other than that, I don't think that there is a major sides effect of fat burners.
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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Jul 11 2012, 02:11 AM)
need advice on my situation
after 3 semester i went from 105 to 72
but after checking out this thread i realised that i mostly lost muscle tissue instead of fat cry.gif
i think so because all i did was control my eating (eat less but not deprived of food) and some stair climbing nothing extreme
plus in sem 2 i did some strength workout and too lazy to continue in sem 3 this is when i drop another 10 and i noticed that my arm no longer has the same shape, now just flab unsure.gif
please advice unsure.gif
would be much appreciated icon_rolleyes.gif
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Well, don't waste anymore time. Start bulking and regain back all your lost muscle. Find a gym; hopefully your uni have a gym then find a good routine. Find and follow a good bulking diet then as usual have a good rest.
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 11 2012, 01:08 PM)
Totally agree, because that's what I'm facing sad.gif
I can lose weight but my arms are still flabby sad.gif
now trying to bump my calories intake via ice cream and what not sad.gif
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eat calorie dense foot such as almonds, peanuts, etc. Less to eat but lots of calorie inside
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Jul 12 2012, 04:25 AM)
I was 97kg back in January and now 83kg with 183cm height.

The thing is I have been consistently eating below maintenance calories (except for the odd cheat days) and my weight has been plateauing for weeks now....

Anything I can do to jumpstart the weight loss? It seems that my body is clinging to the excess fat that I have...
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When you lose your weight, your BMR will also be effected by it. Just like DT1 said, reassess your calorie maintenance
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 12 2012, 10:30 PM)
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First of all, to comment anything on your workout, you have to be more precise rather than bla bla bla. Yea, maybe 4/5 exercises for leg is good but if you do exercises that target the same muscle's angle twice, then it is not ok and we cannot comment on that due to the bla bla bla. Get it?

A proper way to list your exercises should be as below:

Lower Body Hypertrophy Day
Lower Body Power Exercise speed work: Squats
6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max
Hypertrophy pressing movement: Hack squats
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Hypertrophy pressing movement: Leg presses
2 sets of 12-15 reps
Hypertrophy extension movement: Leg extensions
3 sets of 15-20 reps
Hypertrophy pulling movement: Romanian deadlifts
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Hypertrophy curling movement: Lying leg curls
2 sets of 12-15 reps
Hypertrophy curling movement: Seated leg curls
2 sets of 15-20 reps
Hypertrophy calf movement: Donkey calf raises
4 sets of 10-15 reps
Hypertrophy calf movement: Seated calf raises
3 sets of 15-20 reps

From there we can see that there is one major compound exercise which is the squat, then two pressing movements, one pulling movement so that the ratio of press and pull would be 2:1 (if there is any significant on that). All in all, it is done precisely and detailed.

About your diet, if what you consume is enough to meet your macro nutrition and calorie intake, there is nothing much that can be change.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 13 2012, 01:05 AM)
I'm sorry, i'm not really good in naming workout routines. I'll try my best though next time  icon_rolleyes.gif
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If that so, I would suggest that you find a routine that have been create by pro. Why? Because they are pro. They know what they do. There is a reason why this exercise must be done first and this one is last, why do you omit this exercises etc2. If you have the knowledge to do so, then suit yourself. Even -Dan and I are currently using PHAT which is created by Dr. Layne Norton. He is a doctor so I guess that he knows what he do no?
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QUOTE(avatar77 @ Jul 13 2012, 02:40 PM)
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This is my only way! No rebound!
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How much you paid? RM 6K?
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QUOTE(avatar77 @ Jul 13 2012, 02:44 PM)
RM4,800. My wife got super result until we both do the business oredi. hahaha. So, it's free la in a way.
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Super as in?
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 13 2012, 08:31 PM)
Umm, i hope this isnt a stupid question  shakehead.gif

Let's just say i spent an hour on biceps. Bicep Curls, Hammer Curls, 2 BB Curls, Cable Curls
After my bicep workout, i worked on abs :-  I did cable crunches
I realize that i'm 'compressing' my biceps alot when i do cable crunches. Will it effect the growth of my biceps?  sweat.gif  rolleyes.gif
Sometimes i feel like i'm doing cable crunches wrongly  icon_question.gif
My hands goes behind my back, the rope touches my shoulder. Something like carrying-a-bag posture

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I think i'm doing it wrongly  doh.gif
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Supposedly, if you are doing an isolation exercise, it should be targeting the intended muscle only (and a bit of nearest/connected muscle).

And for your case, your biceps should feel anything if you are doing cable crunches. The abs should be doing all the works, not the biceps.

Same like mine when doing pulldowns. If I feel that I'm pulling with my forearm and my biceps compared to my back which is the intended muscle, I'll stop for a moment to adjust my form. If it still not fixed, I'll just drop it. Move on and focus on the next exercise.

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