I wonder why it's so tough?

Just increase your amount of vegetables to replace most, if not all of the rice. The rest goes to beans and fish / chicken.

Remove all sugar in your diet, which includes any sweet drinks. Don't touch any processed refined carbs, which includes bread and snacks.

It's not tough at all, and in fact being a highly stressed lack of sleep person and with no extra budget for multivitamin, I'd say the no sugar diet has helped me prevent from catching a full blown flu so far.

Hi, just wondering, when u say "Don't touch any processed refined carbs, which includes bread and snacks." does that mean the so-called healthy breads like gardenia low fat fibermeal is not good? Are there any "healthy" bread?

This post has been edited by pinacolada: Jun 5 2013, 04:56 PM

Well, technically, you can only find the least unhealthy bread. The least unhealthy would be a gluten-free, soaked grains bread which would most likely require self-baking. And the remaining ingredients that would make it unhealthy are the xanthan gum and yeast, which some can't tolerate as well. Best bet is to limit bread consumption to a minimum, the same way you would for sweet desserts.

Oh i see haha thanks. I'm trying to lose weight and i was told to eat protein, so everyday i eat salmon sandwich for breakfast (from the bakery moment). I was told the bread is whole grain. So i'm wondering if its ok or i'm actually doing the wrong thing for my diet

I guess it should be fine for starters. Can't be any worse than what made you overweight, right?

Not an expert at breads and weight loss but as a general rule total calories consumed per day being less than your expenditure = weight loss in general.

However there are some caveats e.g. sugar and refined carbs leading to stagnancy in progress, and increased healthy oils expediting the progress.

I'll leave your questions to some of the more experienced members here on food selection.

Take coffee/ nescafe without or with very little sugar. It'll think it's good enough as energy booster

Try Adventist. I'm a regular for... more than 5 years? The bread is averagely only 30kcal per slice in comparison to say, a slice of Massimo (which is 90 kcal). Besides, it's packed with nutrition. You can get it in Jaya Grocer, Aeon, Cold Storage etc. Giant used to sell them but not anymore. But oh, it costs RM6.60 per loaf.

This post has been edited by sweet_pez: Jul 6 2020, 10:38 PM

Yes, the 7 grain one is the least unhealthy commercial choice.

Note that it still does contain gluten. However this is very much reduced as there are many other types of grains used, as opposed to a normal wholemeal bread for example.

This post has been edited by sweet_pez: Jul 6 2020, 10:38 PM

Very much reduced indeed. The calories is only 1/3 of Massimo based on per slice comparison. However, it does take a little time to adjust/ get used to the taste

Anyway it's better than eating white bread as I take bread almost daily.

This post has been edited by sweet_pez: Jun 6 2013, 11:35 AM

Hmm not sure about the calories per slice, how about the calories per gram? That should give you a good indication of what differences there are, perhaps it's the extra oil used?

And yes it's the best easily available commercial alternative to white bread or any other wholemeal bread for that matter

Just keep it within moderate amounts as grains do have their negativities as well.

Can't find it per 100gm so need to do own calculation. The label is at home lol

Massimo Wheatgerm x 2 slices (67gm) = 181kcal
Adventist 3-seeds Sprouted x 2 slices (59gm) = 59kcal

Do note that:

7-grains Sprouted x 2 slices (57gm) = 141 kcal

Yes indeed, anything taken in excess is not good.

This post has been edited by sweet_pez: Jun 6 2013, 11:54 AM

guys, i found it weird that bread contains less calories than oatmeal. the oatmeal that i take contains about 367 caloris in 100g while wholegrain bread 216kcal only. If like that its better to eat bread to lose some weight. But most bodybuilding video shows they are eating oat. anyone know what is the explaination behind this

Probably something to the with the difference in fibre content then. Seeds vs wheat.

Probably due to fibre content in bread being higher, therefore less cals? Do verify this as I have not. You'll also have to consider satiety index, gi value, and gi load to know more. In short, I think oats could be slower digesting, thus giving two benefits, i.e. one in terms of insulin response and second would be satiety. Again, do verify this as I haven't. And note that those amount of calories don't mean much at all in the bigger picture.

What oats is that? I have a pack of Captain Oats with me and plain oats is about 73kcal for 100gm.

quaker quick cook oatmeal 367kcal per 100g - now i realize that the calories is for the dry oat.

Thanks for the reply guys! Will definitely check out Adventist.

Hehe actually i'm not overweight, my height is 1.64m and i weigh 57kg. If we're talking BMI, i'm still in the healthy category as my BMI is about 21.2. The thing is i wanna lose fat/flab especially around the tummy area. I was told that nutrition is more important than exercising. Is this true?

Equally important but food goes into your body so I'd say it's vital. Just so you know, spot reduction is a myth. When you lose, it's overall body and not certain specific area. Even when you do more crunch/ abs exercise, they don't help in 'shrinking' your tummy area

also the quaker oat contains more percentage of fat than the bread im eating. i tot u need alot of oil to make bread

It depends on the bread you're taking some can be made with very little fat (butter/ margerin/ oil).

I'd say that Oats contain good fat? It's high in Beta Glucan which can lower cholesterol.

This post has been edited by sweet_pez: Jun 6 2013, 03:15 PM

BMI is flawed. It's only good for getting a general statistical outlook on large surveys.

Just for example you could be as fat as an obese guy (in terms of muscle mass to fats ratio) but just 50% smaller in overall size.

Well, you can solely use your diet to obtain a good physique. But to perfect it (and expedite the process) you will need to exercise.

Similarly, good nutrition is crucial to keep diseases at bay. But to be considered healthy you'll need exercise.

And find out what fats they use. I'd avoid vegetable oils with the exception of higher smoking point oils such as palm oil, peanut oil, etc. Margerine is definitely a no go. Butter is good as well.