Wait, you mean... butter is better than margerin? I thought both were equally bad

Butter (unsalted, organic and grass fed) is among the best quality foodstuff on earth!

Margarine was a sellout in the early days due to the misconception of saturated fats being a health culprit, along with its cheap pricing of course.

It's technically hydrogenated oil, which if you would kindly do a google search, is a hell of a killer.

Edit: Apparently now they are progressing towards zero trans fat margarines? Lol. That's how long I've never taken a look at the tubs produced by large conglomerates. Mass producing cheap food to the average time deprived consumer, with a second aim of contributing towards shareholder earnings can never be entirely good for health. Here, a quick intro to the subject of margarine: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-...mical-gunk.html

This post has been edited by DT1: Jun 6 2013, 03:47 PM

no way normal bread going to use butter as ingredient. they use vegetable oil. See the ingredient. Unless its butter bread

I wonder what Adventis 7 grain bread uses? sweet_pez

This post has been edited by DT1: Jun 6 2013, 03:49 PM

I only jog 20 mins a day haha. Need to up my exercise but so lazy
I'm trying to fine tune my meal plan but i'm not sure how, i was told i need protein at each meal and to eat fruits, then some other person comes over and tells me that i should limit my fruit intake, then there's issues like calories dont really matter, its the % of nutrition thats important (which i know nothing of) haha.

20 mins is fine, just up the intensity. Google HIIT for cardio, or to make things even easier just do weights.

And for the diet just keep it simple.

Let's say on one plate, assuming you're accustomed to the Asian diet:

50% goes to mixed vegetables ideally steamed or lightly stir-fried, 40% to a mix of eggs and/or other meats which ain't deep fried, and 10% to rice.

This should let you see some changes soon enough.

And yes.. fruits you can avoid.. due to the sugar content. Probably do it only once or twice a week, a small bowl of mixed fruits.

This post has been edited by DT1: Jun 6 2013, 04:02 PM

Sometimes just don't overlook the micro part... I take fruits everyday... it's all depend the portion that fits into the macro. Consume it smartly at certain timings certainly helps a lot...

OK OK I don't mess around here.. Go on with your discussion.. It's Friday!

According to Adventist:

7-grains Sprouted Bread

The 7-grains sprouted bread contains sprouted millets, sprouted corn, sprouted oats, sprouted rye, sprouted soy, sprouted lentil, honey, molasses and corn oil. (Flour Free, Bromide Free, No Artificial Flavour, Egg Free, Shortening Free)

3-seeds Sprouted Bread

The ingredients in the 3-seeds sprouted bread are sprouted wheat, flaxseed, sesame seed, sunflower seed, honey, molasses and corn oil. (Flour Free, Bromide Free, No Artificial Flavour, Egg Free, Shortening Free)

More on their website : http://www.adventistbakery.com/products.asp

Adventist is actually a hospital in Penang if I'm not mistaken. They're highly trusted in Penang and the locals love their variety of healthier bread. Every time go Penang for work it's a rush and short trip, have yet to get a chance to drop by and have a look at their bakery though.

http://www.adventistbakery.com/about.asp

For me, no way I can live without fruits I just have to take them everyday. Be it an apple, orange, some papaya or any other fruits for that matter. Although it has sugar (fructose), fruits are also rich in Vitamins and fiber.

I think it's no harm to take an apple or a fruit/ a slice every 2 days or so.

Where I was coming from was that mixed vegetables would be required too, providing necessary vitamins without the sugar. And fruits would probably come in to alleviate the deficiencies as tropical fruits are amazing in their nutritional content, but considering the sugar level probably 2/7 days in a week would be good enough, limiting to no more than 100g of fructose each time. If consumed daily then limit to less than 50g fructose .

This post has been edited by DT1: Jun 7 2013, 10:40 AM

if you are not competing in fitness model or bodybuilding, then its ok to take some fruit. but if you want to get to single digit bodyfat, then you must limit your fruit a bit.

Unfortunately I'm not a vege fan I try to compensate some of it with fruits (but of course, vege is healthier)

life is not-a-life without fruits. I don't mind going a little slower in my diet with fruits.

Well, try to get Non-GMO, less sweet, and high fibre < all these three are interlinked factors. And also as fresh as possible to retain nutrients which are what fruits are for, and also as co-factors to counter certain potential negative effects.

edit: and how could I forget, pesticides are easily absorbed into fruits, and there's not much of consistent regulation and enforcement here, so.... might wanna look into that as well when making choices.

This post has been edited by DT1: Jun 7 2013, 02:09 PM

Could you kindly take a pic of the nutritional label for the 7-grains sprouted bread?

I'm in search of a high carb source, so far I've shortlisted oatmeal as it's easy, but I'm looking for a better alternative.

Edit: found it at.. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/...rains-58928831#

Edit 2: Nah.. decided not to go ahead with it. The occasional slice of bread once in a while is fine, but definitely not including it as part of a daily regimen, due to the gluten.

This post has been edited by DT1: Jun 10 2013, 04:00 PM

Ideally you guys can try the Intermittent Fasting diet method.

Can I ask a question here or is this someone else's question and answers? Never been on here before?

Guys, how about a cup of green tea before sleep? Will this help promote fat loss? *Including cal deficit , cardio and weighlifitng of course.

This post has been edited by skycrawler: Jun 8 2013, 11:39 PM

Hi all,

I've got a couple questions about the best way too
Loose some weight and get healthy.
I'm 29 male n I'm currently at 93kgs, it's the heaviest I've been as life's changed pretty dramatically for me the last couple yrs. I've got 2 boys under the 1.5 yrs old and I work fifo 1+1. Unfortunately I live in a town and have to cook for myself while I'm away.
I've just started going to the gym once a day and peddling for 30 mins doing roughly 14 kms then on the treadmill walking roughly 3 kms in 30 mins.
I am trying to keep to roughly 2500 calories or less using a counter but I am unsure how accurate it is.
I have porridge for breakfast.
Ham and salad sandwich or 2 for lunch.
Scotch fillet or other meat and veg or salad for diner.
Then mainly eating fruit and vege crisps for snacks.

Could someone please give me some tips to
Loose about 1kg a week please.

That depends bro, Planning to lose weight too after exams.. been sitting down a lot lately.

Green tea contains caffeine. Drinking tea can give the extra boost in energy because of the low amount of caffeine content. Some people like my friend cant take caffeine or else he will be up all night.

But overall yea, green tea is good for fat losing but not recommended before sleep

the caffeine in green tea is too little for me. I can sleep well every night