How about whey and creatine? is it okay to mix both of them? taken before workout and after workout?

bottom line u only need total 3-5g a day. doesn't matter how u take it.

noted. errr. I dunno whether to agree or disagree with DL on the issue that weight gainer are crap. normally ppl take weight gainer is to help them to meet the required calories intake. it is much easier to consume than taking food. eventhou it taste bad.

You don't but mass gainers is still crap cause DL is once a 45kg hardgainers and he says so. The fillers (the ingredients) is made from cheap quality stuff and that makes it a crap.

Since I have stopped all supplements; cant say much as of now in terms of as supplement intake reallife benefits.

but from my experience during my supplements days; It had indirect benefits (mostly you may know about it, Dr. DL); but just for the benefit of others. Here I'm referring to L-carnitine and not the D.
Carnitine stimulates the breakdown fats by the mitochondria and plays important role in transportation of fatty acids into mitochondria.

Here is where it plays importance; a defiency in Carnitine results in decrease in fatty-acid concentrations in mitochondria, hence reduced energy production.

If the heart doesnt have enough supply of oxygen; Carnitine levels decreases quickly. hence leads to less energy and increase risk of angina  and hearth problem. During intensive exercise or weightlifting; oxygen level decreases; hence Carnitine supplement makes good sense.

Clinical trials have some evidence on the above and increase in productivity. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11382369

Bottom line, Carnitine improves fat metabolism, hence increasinf energy prduction in the heart muscles and may also prevent the production of metabolites (toxic fatty acid - the products of metabolism).

Generally in terms of improving blood supply and energy metabolism it had to be looked at all of these 4s; namely Carnitine, Pantethine, CoQ10 and magnesium.

Nowadays, I use food to have those in my intake and seldom on supplements.

how is Nitro-Tech Performance Series? anyone tried it?

Would like to get some whey protein recommendation here.

I'm a girl who started working out since last year.
Started off with the Syntha-6 which was recommended by GNC staff.
She says it's suitable for girls.
Later on I realize it has high calories it in.

Currently looking for some recommendation which will help reach my objective.
Objective: 1. Lose weight by lowering body fat percentage and gain some healthy muscle mass.
                2. Tone up my muscles without bulking up.

Been considering MyoFusion Probiotic from Gaspari or Nitro Tech from MuscleTech or Elite Whey Protein from Dymatize.

Which is better or any other suggestion?

Protein is protein. What matters more is your diet as a whole.

This is my first time buying pre-workout. I just opened it and it's already a chunk of hardened powder. Are pre-workouts supposed to be like this or i bought an expired one?
Btw it's neurocore.

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WDC nutrition in SS15. He said 'I guarantee you it is completely normal for any pre-workout'
I might not buy anything from muscletech anymore since the quality control so poor. Not to mention the bad taste.

  my god i also buy neurocore from them, and it look like this too. Already consumed half bottle of it, so far no side effect, and feel size coz of it caffein effect. zzzz

Anyway i think u should go ask for exchange, let me know they allow for exchange ya...

me & my brother bump into our Mr. Universe, Mr. Sazali Samad last few weeks at carefour wangsamaju.. somehow we managed to have a short chat with him. very friendly and humble man as compared to his reputation in bodybuilding . BTW, he still encouraged us to take mass gainer and he admit he still take mass gainer,  i'm a bit suprise! so to F*&*&k mass gainer is a bit to harsh..hehe

hahaha.. calm down brother.. i think i will take Mr.Universe word more than you.

cheers! 

which is why they always hire pro bb'er to promo mass gainers and protein.
which is why Muscletech is so rich because they always have Mr Olympia as their ambassador.

because newbies will believe everything 'pro' says, heh?

btw i'm not using any mass gainer, i eat well, and train like any other person who enjoy to workout..previously, i just want to share my conversation with the Pro, xdela nak follow semuanya, at least En. Sazali taklah say on my face "f*&^ mass gainer" and i'm sure during that time he not promoting any supplement, casual chat laaa.

somehow i feel it was a little bit cocky to just say F*&% that supplement.

btw, f*^%ing a food is a super weird

fine if you wanna question everything. you have your opinions BUT so do others. you dont respect their opinions they dont have to respect yours. end of the day even if you buy mass gainers even though we say its a waste of money we cant really say anything can we?

and mass gainers isnt food. Food for thought. Pun intended.

and if you wanna meet face to face with any one of us i think its fine. im pretty sure none of the regs will back off. Make sure you do though, or that image you attached pretty much only relates to yourself 

He's a professional bodybuilder. With his level of muscle mass, he'd likely have a massive metabolism and would require a great deal of calories to just maintain weight. In his case, with him knowing how his own body works, sure he could use mass gainers. For the average trainee, all you really need to to is eat, and understand basic nutrition. I have used mass gainers. Have they worked? Yes. Why? Because I was hitting whatever calories I needed at the time to grow. I could have grown exactly the same if I had eaten more.

Supplements are all fine and dandy but they should not come before the foundation has been set up. So many people jump straight into a supplement store when they don't even know what macros they should be hitting daily, let alone what a macronutrient even is.

But I doubt he would take the beer, he prefers whiskey i hear, higher thermogenic effect apparently, oh! With Shisha

IS THAT SO?

Game on then lol.

enough said, don't write to much here, just read..dia org semua kawan baik if u know what i mean..
they all sifu with big muscle..lahir dgn muscle.

i just follow bro -Dan here, always give his opinion in good way..

Point is......
Whiskey whiskey whiskey whiskey whiskey whiskey. Sat paparazzi dont run away like a ***** biatch

Go fark a duck.

For you it isnt. No excuses

Hahahahaha

Okay laaaa I was kidding anyways. Relax.