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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION 118, Yat Yat Fatt - Apple Free

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post Apr 26 2012, 11:28 AM

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post Apr 26 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 26 2012, 11:24 AM)
When crisis come, can you afford to not 'touch' the shares you hold?
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there will be the urge to sell high buy lower ...
but then for those counters ... usually ... quite impossible for many longer term investors to really get their initial entry price, unlike me the late comers ...

I am yet to think of how i will react on it ... probably won't need the money, but scared by the news which will trigger sell button ...
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:33 AM

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Hi all, bought 5204 for trading smile.gif

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post Apr 26 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(baqueen @ Apr 26 2012, 11:29 AM)
there will be the urge to sell high buy lower ...
but then for those counters ... usually ... quite impossible for many longer term investors to really get their initial entry price, unlike me the late comers ...

I am yet to think of how i will react on it ... probably won't need the money, but scared by the news which will trigger sell button ...
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'Reacting to the crisis' and 'the possibility of selling due to need of money' is 2 factors that you really have to consider thoroughly.
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Apr 26 2012, 11:33 AM)
Hi all, bought 5204 for trading smile.gif

End of reporting..
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u also bought 5204?r u the 1 yesterday who bought rm1 5000lot ?just kidding thumbup.gif
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:39 AM

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counter all green today rclxms.gif rclxms.gif biggrin.gif
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Kazaff @ Apr 26 2012, 11:37 AM)
u also bought 5204?r u the 1 yesterday who bought rm1 5000lot ?just kidding thumbup.gif
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another unlimited "fun manager"? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Kazaff @ Apr 26 2012, 11:37 AM)
u also bought 5204?r u the 1 yesterday who bought rm1 5000lot ?just kidding thumbup.gif
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Where got blink.gif

I did small trade only, learning TA and test my skill now. You bought it too? Mind to share the reason?
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 26 2012, 09:47 AM)
Holding and not selling over the long term is ideally the preferred choice but in the share market, it's way too risky by being too cocky and declaring  ''destroy sell button" strategy.
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different people different way of investing style, cherroy's is more focus on passive income, no need to work also got extra income masuk pocket, this kind of stock term as uncle/auntie stock, providing a stable and constant dividend income over the years, so stock like Nestle, KLK, Batu Kawan, Dlady, Panamy in this category.

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QUOTE(baqueen @ Apr 26 2012, 11:40 AM)
another unlimited "fun manager"?  rclxub.gif
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Baqueen Jie so paranoid about people with unlimited funds now? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 26 2012, 11:41 AM)
different people different way of investing style, cherroy's is more focus on passive income, no need to work also got extra income masuk pocket, this kind of stock term as uncle/auntie stock, providing a stable and constant dividend income over the years, so stock like Nestle, KLK, Batu Kawan, Dlady, Panamy in this category.

Just my view icon_rolleyes.gif
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hey bro, anything to share on KLK? icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(Icehart @ Apr 26 2012, 11:43 AM)
Baqueen Jie so paranoid about people with unlimited funds now? laugh.gif
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i got phobia on certain fruits recently ...

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post Apr 26 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Apr 26 2012, 11:40 AM)
Where got blink.gif

I did small trade only, learning TA and test my skill now. You bought it too? Mind to share the reason?
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i bought last year , the reason i bought is steady revenue for each quarter plus nice dividend yield for my abp.Still got 2 year to keep this stock, after 2 year differ story for stock sweat.gif
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kazaff @ Apr 26 2012, 11:47 AM)
i bought last year , the reason i bought is steady revenue for each quarter plus nice dividend yield for my abp.Still got 2 year to keep this stock, after 2 year differ story for stock sweat.gif
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Wah handsome profit then biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 26 2012, 11:24 AM)
When crisis come, can you afford to not 'touch' the shares you hold?
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Market timing is easier said than done. Studies have shown that those who sell after a downturn has hit to avoid further loss are about as likely to miss out on a rally as to succeed in cutting their losses. And historically the largest rallies come just after downturns. Not saying that it's impossible of course, but it really is a judgment call. If you see a dip now, do you know if it's just a temporary aberration or the start of a long plunge? If you hesitated and it really did plunge, do you know if an upturn is just around the corner or if the stock is in for a further fall?

In the absence of any clear idea of what to do, holding might not be that bad an idea.

Personal anecdote: I basically held through the 2008 recession. I did suspect that something big was brewing beginning from 2007 but it was hard to predict when exactly things would go bad so I didn't sell. However, I did hold off on adding any more money from 2007, diverting new money into safe assets (like FD and the Malaysian government bond funds) instead. Because of this, I had extra money to spend when I judged that things had settled down enough to start buying. Maybe I could have done better by selling everything the right time and buying back later, but I wasn't confident about the timing and so just held. I'm pretty happy with how I did overall so I don't worry about any potential extra gains I may have missed out on.
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QUOTE(Kazaff @ Apr 26 2012, 11:47 AM)
i bought last year , the reason i bought is steady revenue for each quarter plus nice dividend yield for my abp.Still got 2 year to keep this stock, after 2 year differ story for stock sweat.gif
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Any competition to its business? To me looks like a niche.
eh... maybe we can open a new thread to discuss. This side too many posts, difficult to keep track.
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 26 2012, 11:41 AM)
different people different way of investing style, cherroy's is more focus on passive income, no need to work also got extra income masuk pocket, this kind of stock term as uncle/auntie stock, providing a stable and constant dividend income over the years, so stock like Nestle, KLK, Batu Kawan, Dlady, Panamy in this category.

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Yes everyone is different, no doubt at all. I hope you are not offended that mine is slightly different.

5204 does look interesting.
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QUOTE(baqueen @ Apr 26 2012, 11:43 AM)
hey bro, anything to share on KLK?  icon_idea.gif
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u mau beli kah? laugh.gif

My dad TP for this year is above RM29, don't know whether he bluff me or not rclxub.gif
KLK disposed crabtree & evelyn last few month, and in future they are focusing on downstream industry (Palm oil refinery), their downstream activity not as big as IOI. KLK style is more on slow and steady type, u must have patience for this counter. icon_rolleyes.gif

As for plantation company, they keep on acquiring land in Kalimantan, last time was Sumatra, land is getting limited in Indonesia.

anyway my exposure to plantation not as good as my parent, that's why i only select a plantation company sweat.gif
Whereby my parent having 50%+ exposure in their portfolio, this 3 years is fruitful for them
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 26 2012, 11:12 AM)
Last time, I was also has the same thinking like that. Sell, buy back later.
So I sold GAB, Carlsberg, at RM5.xx Rm6.xx, look where are they now.
I also sold Rothmans (now BAT), at Rm2x.xx, look how much it is now.

I am better off with holding those stocks tightly, (no sell button), instead buy sell for 50x in the market (which not even know can make a profit, may as well loss) for the next 5 to 10 years.
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I feel you. I wish I can buyback RM1.40 Axreit that I sold years ago.
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5204 is definitely a stock with promising future, as it has a good present.
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