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adix4
post Jul 9 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(jAck66 @ Jul 9 2012, 03:00 PM)
here what my friend said 2 day pass..

"badan ketak ketak, tapi K**e kecik, angkat berat sampai K*t* termasuk"..

haha..ayoooo..donno la.. blush.gif
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takpe k**e kecik at least awek banyak Lol

anyways 1 week since my injury, i have slight tendonitis and lower back problem

currently taking ibuprofen and some balm panas

and also go to some rumah urut whistling.gif whistling.gif

hope that 3-5 days my injury will recover
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post Jul 9 2012, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Jul 9 2012, 07:56 PM)
At least its tendonitis which is easier to recover, I have tendonosis which will probably take 4-6 months to recover sad.gif

Question: Whats the best way to do 'Seated Smiths Overhead Press'?

Should I use the chair back support or just seat without it?
Should I lower the bar to my back rather than in front?
What the correct position so that the bar travel 'nearly' vertical?

My gym dont have access to powerack and try to lift it from bench press feel very dangerous & awkward for me. I tried DB OHP but laggging at 40kg for 1 month now. Just did Smith OHP and finally I feel DOMS in my front deltoid smile.gif
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how did you end up getting tendonosis man?

if tendonosis angkat barang like 2kg also feel pain right?

anyways never did seated ohp before, not to mention barbell

things i did with my shoulder is either strict Klokov Press(snatch grip), cheated barbbell at the back shoulder press(snatch grip), Shoulder Press and Push Press

from my experience looking at people

Should I use the chair back support or just seat without it?

i've seen this, most people use the one with the seat

afaik, seated shoulder press will always be more than your shoulder press

never did bb stuff before Lol

Should I lower the bar to my back rather than in front?

both of them will work your shoulder anyways, but i heard that doing the back version will isolate more ( correct me if i'm wrong because i only did back to practice my snatch positioning )

But imho front is safer and you lift stuff from the front Lol, in b4 functional strength

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post Jul 12 2012, 11:45 AM

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Woah, since my lower back have not recovered i pergi gatal tangan belajar power cleans, dahnak elok and then end up sakit balik. Not really painful la compared to weeks ago. I hope it will recover by monday, i miss squats so bad sad.gif

oh my tendonitis almost hilang, did some light shoulder press today!

end up doing everyday

- Push ( Bench / Shoulder Press ) 45sec - 1 min rest
- Biceps and forearms ( BB Curl and DB Curl ) or Triceps works ( Pushdown, CGBP and Skullcrushers )
- Pull Ups for high volume (5x10) for 1 min rest each set

everything end within 1 hour

its hard for me not doing any pull activities and pushing sad.gif feels awkward man plus i hate doing isolation, too many reps sad.gif


Added on July 12, 2012, 11:47 am
QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 11 2012, 11:03 AM)
How many times are you doing chest shoulders and triceps? 3x a week?? Not only is it excessive its counterproductive.

Do legs, then take a break tmr.

Working out without sufficient recovery time is a recipe for a sub-par workout.......you may as well take a rest or work another part and hit it with a vengeance when fresh.
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i have trained my shoulders 5x a week last time because i love doing shoulder press back then ( max out 2x-3x, light 2x )

Srs.

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post Jul 12 2012, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Jul 12 2012, 12:56 PM)
Orang kata jangan buat, buat jugak!  laugh.gif
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seminggu tak main, sekarang sakit balik doh.gif

nak berhenti sakitkan lower back sampai Isnin - Selasa

harap harap dapat doh.gif doh.gif

btw puasa how doh.gif
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post Jul 12 2012, 07:35 PM

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can anyone suggest me any good back workouts? since i have a lower back problem now the only thing that i can think of doing now is lat pulldown, chest supported rows and pull ups.


Added on July 12, 2012, 7:38 pm
QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 12 2012, 06:49 PM)
this may sound like a stupid question..but what is the ideal bodyfat % to start bulking? I just calculated mine, 15%..should I cut more or just straight bulk up? hmm.gif I did some research online and most of them said that 13%-14% is the sweet spot, but then everybody is different right? tongue.gif
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what i did back then before i fall in love with foods and just enjoy lifting while maintaining bw or just raise 1-3kg max ( i still eat trying to eat right tho )

note: my bw will go down easy when i'm in Uni

Bulk up till 15% then cut to 10-12% then do the same thing over and over again

not to mention i am skinnyfat after cutting last time due to shi*ty diet, after reading about all those diet threads and books i have the info but i don't have the time and money to do that now ( living with parents so have to eat what they eat or they will get butthurt )

anyways

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-ga...on-changes.html

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post Jul 12 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jul 12 2012, 08:22 PM)
dumbbell row ada buat?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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kroc/db rows still taxing my lower back. kalau boleh i don't really want to move my lower back

ada idea?
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post Jul 13 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Jul 12 2012, 10:38 PM)
Posa satu bulan kene stop. Pergi terawih smpai kol 9-10pm. Xsempat gi gym. Continue SS after Raya.
Agree. But why not do SS/SL for one month and see your progress. I notice that despite staying in 12-13% BF, I get quite big esp. in shoulder and chest region. Weight progression also no problem. But ~15% is definately the best.
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time puasa nak practice oly lifting cool2.gif

minggu depan nak jumpa satu oly coach suruh ajar, dah suruh PT gym aku arrangekan meeting laugh.gif

anyways i did put incline bench in my current workout, but linear increment like SS/SL lah

last time never got the chance to play around with incline

QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 13 2012, 01:14 AM)
Terawih boleh buat sorang2 dekat rumah. Haha. Pegi gym kalau niat baik pun ibadah jugak  biggrin.gif

But I'm guessing that since in Ramadhan, there might be a lot of complication to go to the gym and workout as usual, I will try to focus on my form. Try to learn how to engage/activate the correct muscle when I'm doing all the exercises. Form is also very important guys for you to move forward.
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of course, gym also close at 10

if workout around 5-7pm of course my parents/brothers/sisters butthurt coz we need to help them prepare the table and foods.


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post Jul 13 2012, 05:44 PM

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when your lower back hurts like hell

this is the only option on doing bent over rows/pendlay rows

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post Jul 14 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(kicksense @ Jul 13 2012, 11:22 PM)
Why don't y'all just go before 'buka puasa'? Around 6PM or 6.30PM. Ngam2 finish ur training, can 'buka puasa' already. wink.gif

So at night can focus on terawikh and eat and rest.
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Well if you are living with your family, going around 6 or 6.30 is not the best time

because you have to help them prepare food and table for berbuka puasa

been there done that and i found it VERY rude to go out around that time

dead serious


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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jul 14 2012, 08:36 AM)
apala dosa bench tu kat kau hahahahah  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  flex.gif
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chest supported bent over row

untuk orang sakit belakang lower back tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif , apparently ni lagi susah dari pendlay rows atau normal bent over rows

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post Jul 14 2012, 04:00 PM

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Hey guys, so i decide to do strength training this Ramadhan

I'm not going to cut off or tukar routine, just going to train at night, but reduce my frequency to 4x a day at night, keeping all the volume and intensity the same

Sahur i'm going to eat like crazy, so as at night, but i will expect some weight loss

any advice on keeping my strength gains? berbuka ayam seekor Lol?

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post Jul 16 2012, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Jul 15 2012, 01:16 PM)
Hello again.

Should I be active in sports when I start working out to gain mass as a skinny underweight person?

I recently went for futsal one day after my workout (stronglifts) and after that my legs were really tired and sore. It was slightly sore till my next workout session so I decided against going for fear of injuring myself (correct thing to do?)

What happens if I miss one session? Do I have to deload the next session?

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No, just continue

your body is adapting to them pains! just start to worry once your squats goes 100kg

then you have to worry about injuring yourself Lol
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post Jul 17 2012, 07:35 PM

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aduii my lower back and elbow is not yet ok

feels like taking 2 weeks off without going to the gym starting today till 31st of August

pure rest, no bs

is it a good idea?
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post Jul 18 2012, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 17 2012, 08:26 PM)
i think the ultimate function of FG is to improve the size of your arms.
ultimately it's about how much you look like you can lift, heh?
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fat gripz improve the size of your arms?

LMAO, forearms bolehlah, and also grips

as a general arm builder

FAK NO


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post Jul 20 2012, 01:38 AM

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Selamat Menyambut Ramadhan guys

may all the gains still be with you till next month!

Don't forget to rest between sets and refrain yourself from sweating bween sets so you will not get hydrated

just do simple compounds and add 1 or 2 isos is good imho
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post Jul 20 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(kicksense @ Jul 20 2012, 04:48 AM)
adix4, from ur opinion, which reps,sets is better when perform compounds during Ramadhan:

A) 3x3
B) 3x5
C) 5x3
D) 5x5

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3x5 or 5x5

A and C is for explosive stuff like power cleans/full cleans/clean jerks/snatches/power snatches and also for VERY HEAVY INTENSITY like 90-95% of your 1RM.

Since you are puasa-ing, i will suggest 3x5 or 5x5 with and i would suggest the intensity would be Medium.

But still, if i were in your shoes i would take 3x5 ( if i train fasted ) and 5x5 if i train after tarawikh


Added on July 20, 2012, 2:18 pm
QUOTE(jackwylde @ Jul 20 2012, 09:06 AM)
its bean a long time since i got a consistent workout schedule.
my job wont let me. been on offshore rigs and all.

currently doing 4 days per week max.
deadlifts went down . squats went down. everything went down.
no motivation at all + the strees . i wonder how you all deal with it..

any advice?

i might just give a break on getting bigger for a while n getting a thick pocket instead. lol
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that is why i train powerlifts boss
don't have money to eat so just with current bodyweight go to the gym and find a way to get what you lift bigger

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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jul 20 2012, 04:49 PM)
selamat berpuasa everyone  notworthy.gif ...today is my last day workout...tomorrow till raya resting time...yay!  icon_idea.gif
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minggu depan kalau tak rasa selesa lagi nampak gaya kena tambah 1 minggu lagi rest ni laugh.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Jul 20 2012, 06:12 PM)
After doing SL 5x5 for about a month now, I feel a little stronger and I've gained +/- 4kgs (don't know if it's good or bad lol)

My squats have been progressing quite well, but my DL's are stalling at a rather low weight (21.25 kgs each side). Usually my grip ends up failing at the last rep and my back bends and all hell breaks loose. Should I alter my routine? Losing alot of confidence in being able to do DL's with good form now...

Oh and to the muslims here, Selamat berpuasa!
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fix your form, use CHALK.

use straps for last results

anyways use overhand grip in almost all your sets and then on your last set do MIXED GRIPS.

You are stalling way tooooooo quick, rclxub.gif

do your rows etc.
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post Jul 24 2012, 09:56 PM

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still injured, having fish oil, glucasamine and ibuprofen like there is no tomorrow

anyways, need your opinion about routine for aesthetics. I mean by stages. I've been thinking about bodybuilding routines ( not for me, just in case someone asked me )

i've been thinking about the best routine ( obviously there is no best routine Lol ) by stages for begginer to elite

lets say i want to advice them,

Begginer - Full body routine eg: reg park, ss/sl, zion, bill starr, modified version of ss/sl

amateur - Splits such as Push/ Pull, Upper/Lower

Advanced - Splits, but 2 bodyparts per day such as backs and bis, chest and abs, etcetc. arms days. etc.

Bodybuilder - Splits, one bodypart or two bodypart per day

keep in mind, stages are counted on "recovery rate" not "how long have you been lifting"

mohon best progression for people who's looking for aesthetics as their main goal in terms of routine ( not diet etc. )



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post Jul 25 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(sickboy @ Jul 25 2012, 06:40 AM)
Would like to ask, for bulking, is it good to hit reach part of muscles twice per week or just once.
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There's nothing wrong with splits.

Splits for beginners is the problem, especially advanced bodybuilder complicated splits, like four or five days.
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post Jul 25 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(potemkin @ Jul 25 2012, 06:11 PM)
I'm no where near aesthetic , but so far as someone who's lifted for year only (minus downtime due to injury) , upper/lower or splits works best for me to add on mass.

Caloric/Macros being equal , i just didn't grow on a Fullbody (SS) routine , making me quite sceptical on it. Not to mention friendlier on the knees.

Take my words with a grain of salt though.
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I've been doing full body for 1 year and a half before changing to some splits.

Don't expect me for aesthetic too tho cos im aiming for powerlifting, and yeah did some oly lifts too

anyways from what i saw, i asked a friend of mine do SL for 3 months, after he changed to split

i can see his gains, EVERYWHERE

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