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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V21, GASAK KUASAAAAA

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zeone	Apr 1 2012, 10:58 PM Return to original view \| Post #21
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 1 2012, 10:42 PM) Bro, no need to deny our Saga NVH is very bad. I agree the main cause is the road itself, but why others car can enjoy even driven along those damn road? And how many percent road along the NS highway is NEWLY re-layered? Not intended want to compare to those expensive car, but from the car i ride, from mid price VIOS, Latio, to our local Persona, Wira, Myvi, Viva, Saga is the worst among it...those local made car also almost 0% soundproofing, but how come it is more silent? Me din deny...juz yr assumption... Me juz made a statement re Road Noise. If only Msian roads were better surfaced & maintained, Saga owners wld enjoy their rides much more! No doubt that Saga NVH is bad...a fact. However, it's understandable & even acceptable, considering wat one pays for a Saga... Midline Vios? Abt RM30k more? Latio? More RM diff? Myvi? Approx +/- RM10k more? Persona? RM20k...? B4 anyone spends his hard-earned $$$ on his choice of ride, he shld chk it out well (go for REAL drives) & esp his important priorities. NO point being unhappy over this & that after buying, rite? Choice & Decision was OURS! This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 1 2012, 11:08 PM
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zeone	Apr 1 2012, 11:10 PM Return to original view \| Post #22
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(ka_one2000 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:05 PM) Where to get STP underseal and how muchie... thanks... DIY/Hardware/Spare Parts Shops? The "higher class" ones? Was easily available in Malls but dun seem 2find it nowadays after local products flood the market!! Price? Arnd RM20+/- per can? This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 1 2012, 11:12 PM
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 06:34 AM Return to original view \| Post #23
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(ka_one2000 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:23 PM) thanks.... i'll try to search for it........ From KL Auto... Stone Guard ? http://kiafortesucks.com/quality-control/s...lternative.html A more expensive alternative? RM120/can!! 2 cans needed for 4 wheel arches... Added on April 2, 2012, 6:41 amGood morning, Everybody!! ps. Apr 1st gone by oledi... This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 2 2012, 06:41 AM
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 08:35 AM Return to original view \| Post #24
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 2 2012, 08:24 AM) This also the fact that surprise me when i ride my friend LMST... Old Gen Sagas are "basically" kinda Re-badged Mitsus....body with bits & pcs here & there Re-designed!!
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 08:46 AM Return to original view \| Post #25
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 2 2012, 08:35 AM) Honestly bro, no big difference on tyre noise for the car with or without this wheel arch spray. Just that no spray when water/stone hit it will be more louder, the tyre noise you mentioned during highway cruising is cause by others factor. Just don put a high hope on that, else u might disappointing later. Yup, agreed. True. Juz 1 aspect of noise in present day Sagas... If wanna spend lots on making car silent like other makes/models, might as well change to that make/model... OR shld hv bought THAT make/model in the FIRST place...True? Like previously mentioned, alwaz get one's priorities/prefs in correct perspective b4 any car/device purchase. Don't complain abt this/that after purchase...kinda like "Crying over spilt milk...?" Hv a nice day with yr own-made choice & decision... This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 2 2012, 08:49 AM
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 08:59 AM Return to original view \| Post #26
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 2 2012, 08:48 AM) You must know a fact that for most 1st time car buyer, they will not know their own priorities. For me, i dun even know what is 'road/tyre noise' before i own this Saga. Because I din encounter such 'noticeable' road noise before. Last time also test drive before i bought, but the road i test is a nice re-layered road, since no aware of this noise, that why dun bother to test on those loose surface road. Ask in here? Dun even know what is 'fast n furious' in Lowyat at the time... So Saga maybe is ur cup of tea, or other owners here won't bother the noise so much, Just i have same opinion as chancole, damn fatigue my ear. Understood. No worries. Juz a reminder for prospective car buyers...and friendly advice to those who hv oledi bought... A note here tho... Saga is NOT really my cup of tea... Juz that a choice had 2b made & was made. All relevant aspects were considered. Responsibility of that choice is ours. Accept consequences. OR.... Only 2 options open to anyone feeling that poor/wrong decision made, namely: 1. Change car to another with better NVH features since that aspect is one's top priority; 2. Modify to upgrade NVH characteristics of car to level expected. Be willing to spend/do wat it takes? Be prepared to accept consequences of modifications made! Other noises (esp internally due2 stripping of parts in process) might result, FC might increase due2 xtra weight of materials used, collacteral damage due2 poor workmanship, etc, etc. This post has been edited by zeone**: Apr 2 2012, 09:09 AM
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 09:13 AM Return to original view \| Post #27
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 2 2012, 09:11 AM) i'm planning for slow and comfort driving, but sked fall asleep while driving Juz dun go too far nor too fast, Bro!! Shld b safe enuf... TC alwaz...
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 10:54 AM Return to original view \| Post #28
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 2 2012, 10:17 AM) ZEONE bro, » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Personally, I felt greatful with my "used" BLM. I used to drove below cars: 1) Accord 200i (comfortable as hell,drink petrol like mad) 2) 1990 Potong Knight 1.5S(FF also can drift,front soft,rear hard) 3) 1989 SAGA SEDAN 1.5S(8v Mits Orion engine,freakin powerful! But radiator always boil) 4) 2001 BMW328i(NS way from Sg.Buloh to Juru 6 speeding tickets in total! Record of my summon is 258kmh.business went sour,couldn't maintain it anymore,sold due to aircon compressor faulty. That alone will cost me 7k to repair it) 5) 1976 Mazda 808 1.3(comfy ride,powerful,born as a wild horse.resemble Ford Mustang GT 1969) 6) 1974 Levin sprinter(can slide even 40kmh,born a drift king,many mods until engine blow) 7) 1973 Mazda RX-2(rotary engine,what can I say?) 8) 2001 WIRA 1.3 A/B (full tank RM70 can only clock 280km top most,no RPM meter) 9) 1996 ISWARA SEDAN 1.3 (veli lasak! Low FC oso. But u can feel the car jump even it runover a mosquito) 10) 1996 WIRA 1.6(m) (very comfy ride,hi power,sprinter,ultra handling. BUT the seat is way too low for me. Bumb my head several times,rusty) Finally, I bought a BLM as a weekend car. Decently comfortable, reasonable noise level, the most powerful 1.3 engine I had before(besides of my RX-2) bearable FC,annoying drive by wire. More importantly, the most economy among its category!so, it really isn't that bad if compare apple to apple. Dave
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 11:24 AM Return to original view \| Post #29
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 2 2012, 10:17 AM) ZEONE bro, Personally, I felt greatful with my "used" BLM. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I used to drove below cars: 1) Accord 200i (comfortable as hell,drink petrol like mad) 2) 1990 Potong Knight 1.5S(FF also can drift,front soft,rear hard) 3) 1989 SAGA SEDAN 1.5S(8v Mits Orion engine,freakin powerful! But radiator always boil) 4) 2001 BMW328i(NS way from Sg.Buloh to Juru 6 speeding tickets in total! Record of my summon is 258kmh.business went sour,couldn't maintain it anymore,sold due to aircon compressor faulty. That alone will cost me 7k to repair it) 5) 1976 Mazda 808 1.3(comfy ride,powerful,born as a wild horse.resemble Ford Mustang GT 1969) 6) 1974 Levin sprinter(can slide even 40kmh,born a drift king,many mods until engine blow) 7) 1973 Mazda RX-2(rotary engine,what can I say?) 8) 2001 WIRA 1.3 A/B (full tank RM70 can only clock 280km top most,no RPM meter) 9) 1996 ISWARA SEDAN 1.3 (veli lasak! Low FC oso. But u can feel the car jump even it runover a mosquito) 10) 1996 WIRA 1.6(m) (very comfy ride,hi power,sprinter,ultra handling. BUT the seat is way too low for me. Bumb my head several times,rusty) Finally, I bought a BLM as a weekend car. Decently comfortable, reasonable noise level, the most powerful 1.3 engine I had before(besides of my RX-2) bearable FC,annoying drive by wire. More importantly, the most economy among its category!so, it really isn't that bad if compare apple to apple. Dave Juz 2add... Yup, if acc2 wat's in bold & blue above, many issues cropping up in this & many other car forums wld NEVER hv been posted at all!! So SAD to read such reactions/comments from present day car buyers... This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 2 2012, 11:26 AM
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 12:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #30
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(ScOttY_PanG @ Apr 2 2012, 12:32 PM) After driving my FLX for 3 weeks, it reach 1K to service.. What to service on 1K service ?? How much it will be?? Any 1 can recommended which SC in KL area for service the car?? I did find out the ride is nice for 43K.. FC still quite ok for me..around RM45 for 310KM?? And I find out 1 problem when I pump petrol in Shell.. I cant put in full petrol pump in the hole. It will keep stop when i pump the petrol. I need to keep pressing and put in half way at the petrol hole. Did any one have this problem before?? Welcome!! For 1st service, only cost of oil, filter & drain plug gasket...slightly more than RM100. SC? Kenot rec cos me not in that state... Petrol pump sensor prob. Not car's prob. Change 2another pump @service station or go2 another station.
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 02:07 PM Return to original view \| Post #31
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(chancole @ Apr 2 2012, 12:55 PM) everytime i pump petrol, that happen. which is annoying. tried many different petrol station. have to shove the tip half in only can pump properly my mom's persona has the same problem too Every time? Definitely something not quite right there... Juz 1 question...do yu pump every time during hot afternoons? If so, try in early (cool) morning/evening w/o car exposed to hot sun... If still got prob, hv the smaller tube opening fr tank to filler hole chk-ed. Last option: Go to SC 4help...
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 03:00 PM Return to original view \| Post #32
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(Bobdog118 @ Apr 2 2012, 02:49 PM) Same to me... need to manually pressing the fuel gun while pumping. 3 of yu same pro All the time? Diff pumps? Diff stations? Fuel pump handle has a sensor detecting back pressure fr car filler pipe to tank. Kenot be ALL pumps got prob wan. Try eliminate pump probs incl change to diff petrol brand stations. Also time of day (weather) to fill up? If all else fail, then SC help is only solution. Sorry... Added on April 2, 2012, 3:03 pm QUOTE(ScOttY_PanG @ Apr 2 2012, 02:50 PM) 4) X1R Engine Treatment 5) Magnatrap Can i know what is this for?? 4 - Massage to the Engine?? 5 - does this optional for every services?? Answer: 4 - NO! Additive for Eng Oil. Optional. Proven NO benefits! Google 4info. 5 - Also a waste of $$. Optional. Looks nice tho... This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 2 2012, 03:03 PM
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 04:13 PM Return to original view \| Post #33
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Apr 2 2012, 03:53 PM) Magnatrap is optional... that's what I know... and many claim that it's a waste of money Yup, that kind of gadget probably works for cast-iron cylinder blocks of yesteryears...the strong magnets used cld attract the finer iron particles (not stopped fr circulation by oil filter) that were mainly the result of wear & tear of the blocks. However, nowadays most, if not all, engine blocks are also of aluminium alloy. Also tolerances are so finely tuned in modern engines. So that main purpose it was designed for is not that effective in modern engines. ...my 1 sen??
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 04:55 PM Return to original view \| Post #34
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Apr 2 2012, 04:41 PM) again retard question : my fuel consumption after 2k is about 300km for full tank. just wanna check is it same about you guys.. 80 town 20 highway.. flx se TS gonna say and like !!
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 05:02 PM Return to original view \| Post #35
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Apr 2 2012, 04:57 PM) jahahaha.. i already read all already bro.. just asking .. anybody same with me.. haha.. my right foot damn heavy man.. haha IMHO this aspect of a car shld nvr b an issue cos too many factors are in play... There is NO one answer... Be Happy & Enjoy yr ride, Bro!
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 06:37 PM Return to original view \| Post #36
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(chancole @ Apr 2 2012, 06:20 PM) ...anybody tried installing door seals? result = ? shut door sounds like vios? Are yu asking abt this type of OEM Door Seal? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry45152145 Above replaces ori door lining..."PnP"/DIY. Yup, door closes more solidly with a "Thud" kinda sound. OR... the stick-on type? No experience with it. This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 2 2012, 06:39 PM
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 09:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #37
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Apr 2 2012, 05:26 PM) Honestly, if there are a lot of you with the same problem and it happens irregardless of the petrol pump, then maybe you guys should report this to the SC so that Proton can become aware of this problem. Sounds like maybe the funnel at the petrol intake is a bit sharp angled causing the pump to think the backflow pressure is there. Googling results re petrol filling prob: 1. Don't pull the valve handle full open right from the start. Start the fuel flow slowly. Whats happening is, when the fuel flow starts at full volume immediately, you're creating a "dam" of fuel part way down the filler pipe into the tank. As fumes need to escape, they push that fuel dam back up the filler pipe to the fuel nozzle, causing the sensor in the nozzle to indicate a full tank and shut off the fuel flow. Starting slow allows a flow of fuel down the lower side of the filler pipe and fumes along the upper side of the pipe to start. Once established, you can increase the volume of fuel flow to full. 2. Try turning the handle upside down it works! 3. You have to leave a little space between the nozzle and the filler. Never stick the whole nozzle inside the filler pipe. 4. It`s the auto stop on the pump, when filling try to put the nozzel so the fuel can flow down the neck of the tank without hitting the sides. This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 2 2012, 09:28 PM
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zeone	Apr 2 2012, 10:00 PM Return to original view \| Post #38
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 2 2012, 09:15 PM) Compared to FL/BLM, seems that in the engine bay for FLX, the upgrade isn't just limited to IAFM+. Yu mean got new xtras? Besides ABS & EBD systems? Can pls enlighten we no knowledge ppl...? TQ.
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zeone	Apr 3 2012, 08:39 AM Return to original view \| Post #39
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(chancole @ Apr 2 2012, 11:38 PM) Ya this is the door seal that i'm talking about.. my rear door closes sounded like wanna break off currently so i planned to stick these onto the lining. btw 10mm or 12mm suitable for flx? and approx how many metre is required to apply onto all four doors? Yu mean the Stick-on type? Sorry, me din do that one. Me did OEM one. Mayb do search in LYN...? Added on April 3, 2012, 8:52 amUpdate: Guess yu guys found the seller...for stick-on type. Do clean areas VERY VERY well since only stick-on...or they'll come off pretty fast! This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 3 2012, 08:52 AM
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zeone	Apr 3 2012, 12:50 PM Return to original view \| Post #40
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 3 2012, 09:37 AM) i use OEM one, need to remove ori one than plug in only... I dun have picture now, but if you are able to read Chinese, go to Cari forum search for that, i bought from there last time, i can't give u link now as my company proxy block Cari forum.... Added on April 3, 2012, 9:39 am Is hollow also, but not stick-on-type, is plug-in-type. Me posted link to pics of doors of my ride with the OEM Door Seal fitted earlier.... Here ==> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2285878/+420 OR direct to 1st mention after my DIY....Here @Post #2221==> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry45152145 Yup, feel me got from same seller, too! Juz remove Ori & push in New OEM... This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 3 2012, 12:51 PM
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