Oh, my god! Joe Fang? His consolidation workings are all over the place! I joined his classes last term but i did not use his consolidation method. I was so afraid to destroy my chance of passing! If I was the marker,  such messy workings (arrows here and there) will really piss me off.

Just my personal opinion, those who intend to join his class, better go around and ask his former students first!

Pl correct me if I'm wrong but I believe F7/P2 require a thorough understanding of ledger entries. I also believe that Mr Joe Fang's method's circumvents this core accounting concept. If that's is the case, I think it's extremely unsafe to rely on such methods mainly for 2 reasons. One, while the methods work for the current exam format, can it be relied upon if the format were to be suddenly changed(like F5 last term) and two, although it might be useful in passing exams, how about real world application when we start working.

Note: This are just my thoughts and by no means a criticism of Mr Joe Fang. I might be very very wrong. Pl enlighten me if I am.

i am just passing by 

LOL you passed by cause i mentioned i'm a student of joe fang's?

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Added on July 30, 2012, 11:09 pm
I guess if thats the case all students should fail their exams using Joe's method . Do you know his consol method is the fastest one around and i am sure many students passed including me 

Hi, I would like to ask for an opinion. I failed my P5 last semester and would like to go for the exam revision workshop conducted by Sunway. But I have just checked that they don't offer for this paper. I don wish to go for the normal classes again, can I know what alternatives that I can go for? Any other colleges?

I taking P5 also at elitejaya. But i walk to Plaza Rakyat lrt station

There there, I urge you not give up after coming so close!

First of all, I don't think your last few years attempting P7 was a waste (It took me 5 attempts to pass P7, not as long as you, but I share your feeling) because you were working and studying, and I'm going to guess you're in the audit line. Your job experience will be the key to securing your future career. So it's not a total waste

Now I highly recommended that you give P7 another go, and here's some unconventional yet somewhat sensible advise, shared by my lecturer :
This is one of the major mistake done by P7 students with audit background jobs : THIS IS AN EXAMINATION, AND YOUR JOB EXPERIENCE DOESN'T HELP! Now this is a somewhat controversial statement, and even I disagree when my lecturer told us that, but just hear me out a little :

i) ACCA paper is set by academician, and so your answer should cater to their needs. Don't try to outsmart them and bring unconventional knowledge which is not expected from a student. Therefore, your attempt to impress the marker with your 'real world' knowledge might actually piss them off.

ii) Practice lots of past year question. The examiner is an audit academician. Nothing pleases them more than a single linear exam approach. Analyze past year answers and examiner comments, and you can establish that the examiner has a somewhat preference for well structured and straight to the point answers (also read as, just go straight to the point, no beating around the bushes). Getting the right answer is one thing, presenting the suitable answer in way that examiner prefers is the way to go

iii) Exam techniques! Yes!, screw your 'real world' approach. This is an exam. In real world nobody can solve ethical issues, make judgement on 2-3 audit reports and assess risk of an audit within 3 hours. This further emphasize that this is just an exam paper, so play along, and focus on getting the adequate marks for a pass.

Conclusion : Do lots of past year questions, and try to establish what the examiner wants, rather than what you want them to know.
Don't give up! I believe you have the adequate knowledge to succeed, you just need to present it in the right way

This is afterall just an exam.

Must always stay alert 

Should be more careful at night. Day time should be ok. A lot ppl. Yesterday after P4 class end at night, it is so scary walk to Plaza Rakyat LRT station. No ppl on the street

i used to go to p5 classes at EJ and used to walk to Masjid Jamek LRT Station after class. I think there are some people there actually. Some shops are still open. Kedai Mamak, 7E and McD are around there so people still come and go. But watch yourselves when crossing the road around that time.

today after P5 class, I walk to Majid Jamek. Got a group of student walk go there also. Are you currently working?

Not aware of that scaring incident although i sat quite front.
I wear red shirt. I left the class after almost everyone left.

I'm not working also.

Hello, i decide to take f7 n f8 exm this june. I think spencer cheah and marcus ong is good lec bcoz they  give simple note with mind mapping. but i'm too late to register because i will get salary next week but people at ksa said that if i register next week they will not give the note..so I think maybe i should juz do self study because if i register i didnt get notes.so no point. Can u guys give suggestion which text book is good enough for selfstudy? Is it GTG or BPP for f7 and f8? Tq

thanks.really need that.
where can i find video lec?

U went to ksa? For 2nd term or revision class? For which subject?

For f8 i think i juz reg for irc since i need to memories. (i'm sure that i will sleep in the class since its no need calculation+  air conditioned there huhu) .thanks for your advice.Really need that.thanks

Wow so you R my senior coz already at the Prof level.congrats
Thanks for the advice.