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plkvoon
post Jan 10 2007, 09:26 AM

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yesterday was at RHA, spent $$$$ again on lures..... bought storm= chug bug (8cm and 6 cm), thunder dog, yozuri hardcore minnow(9cm) and rapala skitter prop(8cm)

wah lao.... i think i siao already..... not the fishes bite the lures... but i kena pula............. ahahhahahaa
apad
post Jan 10 2007, 10:33 AM

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hey guy,nice to meet some one love fishing in KL.I just try yo fish at the recreation park in Kepong (near Alam Flora),wait for 2 hours but no fish,haha.anyway,for beginner like me,never go to fishing trip but will join if anyone going to organize,maybe for 1 day,and no girls!

anyway,usual fishing port in Gombak (UIA).

fish catched already:tilapia,catfish and belida.other than that,never got one! cry.gif
seR
post Jan 10 2007, 10:52 AM

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i was at the side where u need to go passed those cement blocks to park your car..

ah RHA..1 of my favourite place for japanese lures.. laugh.gif
rorytate
post Jan 10 2007, 04:30 PM

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haha...the lures are not meant for fish la....it's meant for anglers...muahahahahha

RHA is quite a tackle shop cos it's not commercialised...it's more to a tackle-shop-that-assist/help-the-angler-to-catch-more-fish type

Bro Apad, i'm more to a hunter but catch and release using lures... smile.gif

Bro Ser, let's arrange out a trip to go hunting.. smile.gif you were saying the ulu kelang area?

Guys, i'm in the midst of arranging a trip tp P.Jarak. It's solely meant for POPPING and little jigging. However you can also do bottom when the rest of the anglers is doing popping. smile.gif The cost for the boat is about rm150/pax and the lodging is RM50 for a room that can fit 4 pax/ The room rate is extremely cheap where the resort only caters for the members who parked their boat there smile.gif

Target fish is GT and sailfish on popper. The jigging will be GT, queen and kings and grouper.

Anyone interested? Please raise your hands..
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post Jan 10 2007, 05:59 PM

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BTW bro KK,

the rod is completed!

waiting for the epox to dry up then i will test the rod and then pass to you.. smile.gif

can it lift 10kg without breaking?
seR
post Jan 10 2007, 06:35 PM

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no problem with me here...ermm..who can lead? heheh.. wa wa...custom rod ?? ermm..i want 1 also..complete with megabass accessories and finishing..can ar?? hehe
Kurauking
post Jan 10 2007, 08:02 PM

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Alloo Sifu rory, dun simply test da rod leeh, gotto check the guides are in proper position first, maybe we can test it together lor......hehehe.......... tongue.gif





QUOTE(rorytate @ Jan 10 2007, 05:59 PM)
BTW bro KK,

the rod is completed!

waiting for the epox to dry up then i will test the rod and then pass to you.. smile.gif

can it lift 10kg without breaking?
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post Jan 11 2007, 08:26 AM

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haiyaaa sifoo rorytate ... u kasi copy the links of the pics and then post lorr .. hehehehee .. NO FISH one leehhh .. tongue.gif
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post Jan 11 2007, 09:29 AM

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Bro SeR,
If you want megabass spec also can do....it's just the money matter

Bro KK,
I've placed the guides according to the curve of the rod. I was using 10kg dumbell to hold the curve, but not lifting the 10kg dumbell. smile.gif

Bro Q,
Your trip ma..you should post ma.... smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2007, 09:52 AM

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good article to read about.
- testing the rod till they break(with pics)
- right way to handle your rod to prevent breaking
- handling at certain part of the rod will increase the power of the rod, but sacrifice on the back bone and butt. Places where the rod can break
- the right degree to fight the fish.
- taking care of your rod.
- indirectly, on how to choose your rod


Give Me a Break! Fishing Editor John Merwin Tortures Seven Rods Until They Snap

The Rods
So no fishing rod manufacturer would have a chance to surreptitiously soup up a test version, I picked out my "victims" from retail outlets, paying between $28 and $80 for the kinds of midpriced models most people use most of the time. All were 6 or 6½ feet long and one piece, so I didn't have to deal with ferrule-strength issues. To make the group comparable according to factory specs, I chose medium- to heavy-power rods, the kind commonly used in largemouth bass fishing, rated for lines testing to as much as 17 or 20 pounds.

The Results
The breaking points of supposedly comparable rods varied widely, from a low of 22.4 pounds to a high of 44.6 pounds. The one rod that I was unable to send to a premature death-a Shakespeare Ugly Stik-carried an incredible 55-pound load without snapping (I ran out of weights at that point and gave up). Notably, strength was not related to suggested retail price; the Ugly Stik was the least expensive fishing rod I tested.

Varied test results aside, these are (or were) all perfectly good fishing rods. For one thing, any monofilament line commonly used with any of them would break long before the rod did, and it's even more likely that the hooks would either straighten out or pull free from a big fish. And strength isn't the only consideration when you're choosing a rod; other attributes such as overall weight and action are important, too (a broomstick would likely have been stronger than any rod I tested). Mostly, I was surprised by the loads all of these rods could carry. I had expected much less. But I now know the type of stress I can put to bear in certain angling situations, such as fighting a trophy gamefish or hauling back hard to get free of a snag.

The Test: What It Takes to Snap a Rod
I built a fixture to clamp the rod grips rigidly at a 45-degree angle above horizontal. This is about the same angle at which I'd hold a rod to fight a big fish. I strung each rod with parachute cord, tying one end off at the reel seat, and the other to a bucket a few inches from the rod tip.

By my side I had a pile of assorted lead ingots (for molding sinkers and jigs), and I dropped them in the bucket, one at a time, putting a bend in the rod that grew deeper with every step. Adding each weight was like tickling a dragon's tail, and I found myself wincing until, finally, KA-POW!-the butt would snap. This was great fun. It was also dangerous, so don't try it at home. Then I weighed the bucket and its contents to determine what weight caused the rod to break.

What breaks a rod

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* High Sticking: Rods are designed so that the lower, larger-diameter section can support severe stresses. If a rod under strain is held too close to vertical, the butt can't bend properly and the force is consequently applied near the middle, which is not as tough. Many rods meet their ends this way, especially high-end fly rods that have thin-walled blanks. When you're pulling hard, always keep the rod at less than 60 degrees above horizontal.

* Split Shotting: Though they seem tough, graphite rods are in some ways very fragile. Accidentally whacking the rod against a boat gunwale or allowing split shot to hit the tip while you're casting can create small fractures in the graphite. Hours or weeks later, when you're hauling in a monster, the rod will likely snap at that old impact point.

* Superline Spooling: Sometimes, fine-diameter superlines (gel-spun polyethylene) are stronger than the rods they're paired with. Fifty-pound-test superbraid on a medium-heavy spinning rod is one example. Unless your reel's drag is set to slip slightly on a hard strike-thereby providing a protective cushion-there's a fair chance your rod will wind up in pieces.

* High-Handing: Sliding your hand up the rod to gain more leverage in a fish fight allows you to exert more force, but you're also preventing the butt from bending the way it's supposed to. Chances are the rod will snap in the middle in this situation.
rorytate
post Jan 11 2007, 09:58 AM

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The rods that the editor uses.

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Shakespeare
Ugly Stiks have been among the world's bestselling rods since they were first introduced in 1976. Built of a graphite-fiberglass mix, they are unbelievably strong and tend to be heavier and use lower-end components than premium all-graphite rods. If sheer pulling power is your primary concern, this is your rod. shakespeare-fishing.com

Rod Tested: Shakespeare
Model: Ugly Stik SPL1100
Price: $28
Length (ft.): 6
Lure Rating (oz.): ¼ - ¾
Line Rating (lb.-test): 8 - 20
Break Strenght (lb. deadlifted): 55 (unbroken)

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Shimano
My heavy-duty Clarus spinning rod was a cross between a plow horse and a racehorse: unusually strong in the butt for a graphite rod, yet lightweight and trimmed out with top-of-the-line hardware and a full-cork grip. shimano.com

Rod Tested: Shimano
Model: Clarus CSS66MH
Price: $60
Length (ft.): 6½
Lure Rating (oz.): ¼ - ¾
Line Rating (lb.-test): 8 - 17
Break Strenght (lb. deadlifted): 44.6

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Browning
With first-class components and based on a medium-stiff graphite fiber, the powerful Medallion GT is an exceptional value at $50. browning.com

Rod Tested: Browning
Model: Medallion GT MD66MHS
Price: $50
Length (ft.): 6½
Lure Rating (oz.): ¼ - 5/8
Line Rating (lb.-test): 6 - 17
Break Strenght (lb. deadlifted): 39.5

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Bass Pro
This Bionic Blade spinning rod uses a higher-modulus graphite than most of the others tested and has a reinforced butt section. Notably, its butt cap is threaded to accept balance weights, a worthwhile feature. basspro.com

Rod Tested: Bass Pro

Model: Bionic Blade BNC60MHS
Price: $60
Length (ft.): 6
Lure Rating (oz.): ¼ - 5/8
Line Rating (lb.-test): 6 - 17
Break Strenght (lb. deadlifted): 31.7

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Cabela's
The Fish Eagle II graphite spinning rod is the most nicely finished of the bunch, with an attractive green blank topped by premium guides and a full-cork grip. cabelas.com

Rod Tested: Cabela's

Model: Fish Eagle II GS665
Price: $80
Length (ft.): 6½
Lure Rating (oz.): 3/8 - 1
Line Rating (lb.-test): 8 - 20
Break Strenght (lb. deadlifted): 30.6

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Berkley

The Lightning Rod ProLite graphite spinning rod has an unusual Qwik-Lok reel seat that slides and locks in place to hold the reel. www.berkley-fishing.com

Rod Tested: Berkley
Model: Lightning Rod ProLite LPLS601MH
Price: $50
Length (ft.): 6
Lure Rating (oz.): ¼ - 1
Line Rating (lb.-test): 8 - 17
Break Strenght (lb. deadlifted): 23.1

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Falcon
The rod I tested is part of the company's Original series, which features 100 percent graphite construction. The medium-heavy-power model feels light in the hand relative to its strength, which enhances sensitivity in fishing. falconrods.com

Rod Tested: Falcon
Model: FS-5-166
Price: $70
Length (ft.): 6½
Lure Rating (oz.): ¼ - 5/8
Line Rating (lb.-test): 10 - 17
Break Strenght (lb. deadlifted): 22.4
rorytate
post Jan 11 2007, 11:10 AM

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also, found a good article with illustration on tips and tricks for lure fishing

mostly on soft plastic

http://www.fishing.net.my/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10124
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post Jan 11 2007, 11:38 AM

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Waah, sifu rory, 'sek pao moe yeh cho' ahh, so free to copy and paste all this info here ahh but must say good info laa for noobie, clap-clap.......hehehe..........
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post Jan 11 2007, 12:19 PM

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nice article bro..especially for those who uses spinning reels.. smile.gif
plkvoon
post Jan 11 2007, 02:41 PM

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bro rory, this weekend mana pergi???any plans??? i think my BC got prob lar... after i lube the bugger... now the drag very loose lar...almost without drag.... what happen ar?? help me bro rory
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post Jan 11 2007, 02:47 PM

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haha...not that nothing to do...just that i come across this article and would like to share it smile.gif

Bro Ser, It applies to BC or spinning set. It's more to the technique to intice more strikes.. smile.gif

Bro Voon,
thought you gonna pop by my place so that i can show you?? and at the same time, to collect your rod?
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post Jan 11 2007, 02:50 PM

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this weekend only free lar.... now office at glenmaire lar... no more in cheras..... what happen to the reel ar??? i just simply lube only but not with wd-40 lar..... aduh dunno y the drag hilang lar...... and how bout this weekend???this saturday i drop by ur area lar....ok?
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post Jan 11 2007, 03:34 PM

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WD40 sure la rosak...

but what did you use to lube?
plkvoon
post Jan 11 2007, 04:12 PM

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engine oil lor...... havent go back to old house to take grease
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post Jan 11 2007, 04:15 PM

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engine oil??

where you lube lar??

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