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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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davinz18
post Aug 21 2013, 10:58 PM

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Amanah Mutual launches 2 funds worth RM550m

Amanah Mutual Bhd (AMB), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd (ASNB), which in turn is a wholly-owned unit of Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB), launched its multi-class series of AMB Value Trust Fund (AMBVTF) and AMB Dana Arif (AMBDA) worth RM550 million.

The launch of AMBVTF involved two multi-class series in US dollar-denominated for retail investor (AMBVTF B-USD) as well as institutional investor (AMBVTF C-USD) and one multi-class in ringgit for corporate institution (AMBVTF C-MYR).

AMBDA also launched one multi-class in ringgit-denominated for institutional investors (AMBDA C-MYR).

"These four multi-class series can be subscribed by Malaysians as well as foreigners residing in Malaysia," said PNB chairman cum AMB chairman Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid.

"The multi-class is an innovative structure that gives AMB the flexibility to design funds that better meet the varying needs and preferences of different investors, in terms of the fees and charges imposed, the currency in which it is denominated, the distribution policy and simultaneously helps to broaden market reach," he told reporters after launching the funds here today.

The classes introduced can be denominated in different currencies, therefore investors holding foreign currencies can now invest directly in a class of units denominated in that foreign currency without first having to convert their funds into ringgit.

AMBVTF is a capital growth fund launched in 2003 and its objective is to provide investors with capital growth through investments in securities while minimising the risk in the medium to long term.

AMBVTF provides investors with an alternative approach when investing in equity markets.

Meanwhile, AMBDA is a bond fund launched in 2004 with the objective of providing a steady appreciation of the net asset value with a regular flow of income to investors through investments in debt securities that are permissible under syariah principles.


http://www.ambmutual.com.my/
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post Aug 22 2013, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 22 2013, 09:28 AM)
Wat is d rationale they change the passbook?
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I don't know. What I know they did same thing with asn3, New passbook & account number smile.gif

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 22 2013, 09:34 AM)
Agreed but their corporate governance is very poor shakehead.gif
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Very simple. If you have doubt about the business / investment practices, don't invest. No one forcing anyone to invest icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 22 2013, 11:17 AM)
what is this about @@ i can't understand
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it's for the more "advance" investors. The risk is higher
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 22 2013, 05:25 PM)
Doubt = No
The info in website is not consistent with d info in Prospectus
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I can't say much.

If you really want the answer, do e-mail ASNB for clarification. If you get a proper explanation, do please post here for everyone reference icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 22 2013, 08:17 PM)
LOL better don't la.

emailed 1 month ago, never got reply.
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Once I got email them last year regarding the fixed price fund, asking them to add more new units for subscription. I got the "standard" reply "units sold out, if anyone withdraws then some are units available" doh.gif doh.gif

(they reply after few weeks shakehead.gif )
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post Aug 22 2013, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ Aug 22 2013, 07:43 PM)
Say, is the AS1M for non-Bumi closed like forever? I opened with RM1k 2 years ago and was never able to add to that due to quota filled.

Walked into Maybank 3 times since, always get turned away. Kinda pissed off lol
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You're very lucky to have the passbook, some people don't have at all.

Why don't you try at Pos Malaysia or ASNB branch, they normally will give a try for you smile.gif
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QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ Aug 22 2013, 10:51 PM)
Thanks mate, will try either the branch or Pos Malaysia.

Yea after opening the book, I heard others couldn't even get it. Massively regret just opening with 1k when I had 10k in FD. Oh well... Nasi is become bubur  tongue.gif
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When as1m open for subscription, a lot of people have doubt. Some people spreading negative rumour about the fund. The "famous" one is the 4% p.a dividend rate doh.gif shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 23 2013, 07:25 AM)
yea. that time don't know why a lot of moron. maybe they spread the bad thing about AS1M, but they themselves put in massive money. LOL

and maybe they look at the prospectus saying the fund manager "may" make it having sale charge.

but now, no more units left. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

however, 1 thing i must say, the risk is still there.
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The person / parties spreading the rumour are the one putting more money there (bcoz wanna eliminate competition for the available units)

There's risk in every investment, the only difference is how much / high smile.gif

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 23 2013, 10:31 AM)
i had the same notion too. but the bank manager convinced me otherwise... she's quite helpful

actually bank managers will be very helpful once they know you handle large sums of investments. the branch get a percentage from the transactions and they can hit their sales targets. of course you'd have to purchase some of their products (loans) to keep the healthy relationship going...  nod.gif
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Not every bankers are like that, You're very lucky to have her.

Normally those with "VIP" or "High net individual account holders" would get some special treatment at banks. When the units are open for subscription, they would get their transaction first (even the 1st person in the Q need to wait for some time before transaction would be done). Banks famous Quote for all those waiting in Q "Sistem tergendala sebentar, Network connection problem, Sistem jem"
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 23 2013, 03:40 PM)
Very very very true.

But somehow, anyhow, the virus is spread-ed. LOL

Like your sig,

" be greedy when everyone is fear, be fear when everyone is greedy "
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Anyway it's too late, "nasi sudah menjadi bubur" biggrin.gif

When people in fear, that's the time to "attack" (No one want it, so opportunities to "sapu" it)
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Aug 23 2013, 04:11 PM)
I hoped that the next time there will be a new fixed unit trust to be launched again..

Then, if the new unit trust is also perceived to have lower dividend similar to the situation of AS1M, i will again pump me maximum money into the unit trust..

Haha....  nod.gif
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If really got new fixed price fund, people would Q early morning to subscribe it. People won't fall to the same trick 2nd time biggrin.gif

(last time people started Q at 4am, now sure much more earlier maybe 11pm night before biggrin.gif )
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 23 2013, 04:12 PM)
Agreed
I encountered dis message when top up for new units of ASW2020 n ASM from 2004 to 2008
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When I saw this happening, I was very2 angry, but I couldn't do anything about it. Those involved are those "high profile, VIP, Those big business person". Every one knew them.

Anyway after I encounter this problem, the next "opening" of new units I went to ASNB branch. The branch is much more better than those banks. They got more counters for new acc & top-up. Everyone was happy smile.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 23 2013, 04:23 PM)
Lets hope they will launch ASM 2 or ASW 2020 or AS1M 2 which is similar to ASN, ASN2 n ASN3 thumbup.gif
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bro already got asw2020 fund doh.gif

maybe got planning for ASM 2.

AS1M 2 kinda weird smile.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 23 2013, 04:34 PM)
My worst xperience was when d staff @ Banks informed : Sir, I'm very sorry bcoz our systems offline  cry.gif and  icon_question.gif
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Only an excuse to "cover-up" their act (doing background transaction). I don't believe what they said. Tipu shakehead.gif

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 23 2013, 04:35 PM)
Bro, omitted "2". Should be ASW 2020 2
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asw2020 2 kinda weird when you pronounce it
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 23 2013, 04:45 PM)
TIPU and SAPU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  mad.gif  mad.gif
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I really hate them for doing this "background transaction" mad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 23 2013, 05:12 PM)
BTW i think thee will no more new funds in 10 years...

because now they hard selling ASG...

ASG-k today dropped til 1.1345 which is the lowest past few month, those who want to buy.. wait too late = =

see monday punya pricing la
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10years shocking.gif I don't think that long, who knows maybe next year after the ASG promo ends got new opening (or after we get new PM end of the year biggrin.gif )


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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Aug 23 2013, 05:25 PM)
New PM, new hope for Fixed Unit Trust.. lol...
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Yesssssss thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 23 2013, 08:07 PM)
i'm pretty sure there are many high net asset individuals lurking around in this forum...
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I know some of them sure read this forum. I "indirectly" let them know how "ordinary" people feels.

Siapa makan cili dialah terasa pedasnya biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 23 2013, 10:05 PM)
just before G election , damn easy to buy ASM, ASW2020 AS1M.

I saw people queing there to sell, did you all buy that time? I kept topping up whatever i had then, but frankly got a little feeling of woories also when it was too easy and successful to top up almost every time i tried......
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You're very2 lucky.

That time people are worried about possible "change" in Malaysia. Most withdraw their investment out of fear.


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QUOTE(onthefly @ Aug 23 2013, 10:23 PM)
hey guys.. everytime when i ask for quota.. i alway get rm100 only.
i feel very fishy. twice i get rm100 already only but i asked for rm300
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They "try" how many times? Just once & say successful transaction means they just "key in" rm100.

If they "try" 1st time unsuccessful, then they need to "key in" again different amount.

Just look at their hand movement. What they're typing, where the finger typing at which part of the keyboard (normally they use the number section - right side)



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