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kimimaro_kun
post Mar 28 2012, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(usermode @ Mar 28 2012, 12:54 PM)
u want to put pasu bunga also can... ha ha ha ha~ in my tank, underneath my slopes are petrified woods + small pots when buying plants that time to support my rocks 'puzzle'. LOL~

- the thing is, the purpose of having those lava rocks and creating slopes are for 2 different purpose.
- using lava rocks: for BB colonizations underneath the soils. so some people taking this opportunity to create slopes with it as well.
- creating slopes: well, definitely just for the slopes. which by means, if u already have  Power Sand at your base, it wont be necessary to use lava rocks. so u can use whatever thing (seriously, even pasu bunga) to make the slopes higher as you wanted it. because you wont be worrying about bb colonizations (if got then good, if cant then nvm.. u still have powersand anyway).
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BB colonizations?? for the bacteria?? read in V7, you saying bout BB colonizations in filter. meaning, more BB, better??

for a new tank, is it really neccessary to put Powersand? or just put the 5element and soil??

sorry for the q.. plan to build 1 this weekend..
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post Mar 28 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(usermode @ Mar 28 2012, 01:52 PM)
- to me, the more BB the better. that's why it's name is "Beneficial" Bacteria. ha ha ha..~
- BB in filter and in the soils done the same thing in different way. ever wonder where's all the poops gone?
- u can replace the powersand with crushed lavarocks if you want. more cheaper. but in these kind of thing, i trust ADA. tongue.gif
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Benefical Bacteria doh.gif
i googled for bb and found Bordetella bronchiseptica, Beauveria bassiana, etc..

ok, so the cheapskate side of me plan to go for crushed lavarocks. still i need to apply 5elements?
can i buy it in loose pack?

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post Mar 29 2012, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 29 2012, 03:34 PM)
i guess i need to use my creativity tomorrow. haven't received my stuffs yet
my only concern now is how large is the driftwood and where to plant the narrow ferns. moss decided to tie on wood. the nanas i will try to figure a way between the rocks and beside. narrow fern plan to use as background but duno what or where to tie them
if i attach the narrow fern to the driftwood i need to bury tht part of the wood or just leave it as it is?
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if u dont want to tie the moss on the DW, u can tie with with mesh.
same as what Luqee do with his moss wall, IINM..

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post Mar 29 2012, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 29 2012, 05:30 PM)

just my personal opinion>
personally, i dont recommned him to do moss wall since:  sweat.gif 
1)they are too slow too grow - took me about 2 months+ to see the pucuk growing as long as 1-2cm only from the overlap mesh
2)require good filtration since all the tank filth will stick behind the moss wall and u need to detach the suction cups of the wall to clean them properly(currently using 2 filters)
3)if you got small critters like mine(RCS,ottos,cheery barbs), they sometimes tend to get stuck behind the wall(suction cups failing/not enuff suction cups) or with  mesh itself(mesh hole too big)

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i was about to make a moss wall till i read your comment
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post Mar 30 2012, 02:30 PM

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Plan to get HOB either HBL-501 or aqu@clear..
any1 using this HOB? want to get your feedback for this filter.

plus, what filter medias i need for the planted tank?

thx
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post Mar 30 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Mar 30 2012, 03:56 PM)
i use dolphin 500, 500l/h (too strong for 40cm tank)..now regret and wanna downgrade to slower one.
media inside: sponge, carbon (will remove a bit later), bio-ring (around 10pcs)
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AquaClear 20 Power Filter 378L/H.
HBL 501 II Model Hanging Filter 5W 400L/h
Price wise almost the same. either this is ok for 1.5ft standard tank right?
all the filter media included when purchase the filter??

QUOTE(sisaiko @ Mar 30 2012, 04:01 PM)
@Zen

Nice attempt n very fast also huhu

perhaps
u can flat the front soil to become one line
re-arrange the DW instead of all lying together
trim the long fern leave, new leave will grow nicer
cover the anubias rhizome with rock
re-arrange the rocks as well
maybe u done it too fast

For ess K u can push 1ml/2days mean every 2 days push the fert
plus ur plants are low demand type, u even can dose every 3 days
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as expected, sifu will comment bout this. LOL
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post Mar 30 2012, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Mar 30 2012, 04:59 PM)
aquaclear 501 II enuff already..i assume that 1.5ft tank will have ± 30 liter of water. that is 10 time than your water volume. if it come with flow control, thats better..dolphin have flow control..but the rattling sound when i select to slower flow is annoying. sponge + carbon come with the filter. i only add bio ring for BB house. nirox brand only..less than RM5
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that's what i want to know, if the filter have the flow control.
i read from here, flowrate should be aroud 3-4 times of tank volume.
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post Mar 31 2012, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Mar 31 2012, 08:02 PM)
may i know where u gonna buy the aquaclear HOB , i only saw it in pet safari ikano but
the price is quite high .. aquaclear 20 cost rm82.00 , with that i can buy Eheim Liberty 200 or 2041.
somemore all those aquaclear are left over phased out stock, only few box left are unopened condition.

filters media can opts for JBL micromec, aquaclay etc or more expensive like eheim subtract pro , biohome etc.
but all depend on ur budget.

eheim currently still doing promotion on the classic canister model , 2213(rm279), 2215(rm389) , all come with free filter media.
worth buying.
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change of plan. change 1.5ft tank to 2ft tank.
is it ok for me to use HOB or i must use a canister?
budget only around rm100 doh.gif sweat.gif

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post Apr 1 2012, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 1 2012, 05:26 AM)
with rm100 , then u can get the eheim HOB 2042 aka Liberty 200 at promotion price of RM95nett(normal price >rm150).
East Aqua(Mid valley)(Ikano branch out of stock) , 88 Petsmart and some LFS still selling at the promotions price.
Pump output approx:  l/h 320-760
i'm using one as an addon filter on my 2 feet tank ever since my eheim 2213 outflow have been crippled by chiller.  rolleyes.gif

http://www.eheim.asia/prod_eheim_filter_hangon.html
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thx arrow for the suggestion.
will try to search that eheim200 here in JB.

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post Apr 1 2012, 07:38 PM

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Bought Aquaclear 20 at New Oasis JB for rm40 (good enough for me) and lava rock rm4/kg.
also bought 3 plant for the scape.
glosso
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tenelus
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cant remeber the name.. can help me to identify??
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is it necessary for me to set up the tank tonight itself since i already bought the plant?? doh.gif

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post Apr 1 2012, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(applebee @ Apr 1 2012, 09:06 PM)
the 3rd one is it water sprite? i used to have it, but grow emerged in my 2ft tank. eventually throw it  to outdoor tank ...
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nod.gif thx applebee.
googled about this plant. seem to be a great plant for a starter like me
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post Apr 2 2012, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 2 2012, 03:13 AM)
wow...rm40 only..good deal since it sell for rm82 here in KL shocking.gif
but u using only lava rock as media inside this filter? hope not as lava rock won't hold much beneficial bacteria.
if budget is the constraint, can buy those cheapo cap ayam filter media. cost < rm15 a box.
btw do they still have stock for those aquaclear filter model 30 & 50?
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no la, i'm using the lavarock to make slope. not as filter media
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they do have other model but i cant remember which one.. sorry
as i know, mine is rm40, the other is rm45 IIRC
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post Apr 2 2012, 10:11 AM

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as usermode said, u can even use pasu bunga as your base.
so go ahead, go smash your parent flower vase
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post Apr 2 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(hooi_jd @ Apr 2 2012, 03:32 PM)
3rd - Water sprite..
Best to avoid it, it grows alot root from its stems and very ugly.
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i plan to plant this behind my hardscape.
since i already bought it, maybe i'll just go ahead and plant it.
thx tho for the heads up.
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it remind me of ulam raja whistling.gif drool.gif
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post Apr 2 2012, 11:09 PM

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glosso oh glosso..
you better grow well in my tank. make my backache really worth it
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for the filter, should i or should i not include the activated carbon?


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post Apr 2 2012, 11:40 PM

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**my mistake**

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post Apr 3 2012, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Apr 3 2012, 07:53 AM)
3 times planted glosso....ALL MATI (special thanks to cory and flying fox).

Then change to the pearl grass...supposely cantik cantik for the 1st 3weeks..then in a sudden, since last week, my tank temp suddenly shoots up to 30-31 celcius..then all mati in 2 days...shit...my tank got carpet curse...
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wake up this morning, got a few glosso floating. maybe because of my noob skill
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will post my tank pic later.
my respect for the person patiently plant glosso for 2ft tank and above
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post Apr 3 2012, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Apr 3 2012, 08:26 AM)
It cost me merely 2hour to plant (include process of seperating the yellowish or layu). I respect the 3f aboveĀ  notworthy.gif
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notworthy.gif huhu.. seriously, this hobby need PATIENT.
almost rage last night doh.gif tongue.gif

my tank last night
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this morning
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Please comment
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p/s please ignore the africana soil. that is my cheapskate side, try to use the balance from before.
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post Apr 3 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Apr 3 2012, 09:14 AM)
Hmm...1 feet tank? upgrade to 2f then...kekekeke thumbup.gif
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I just empty out my 2ft tank. just waiting fo the correct time to plant in there.
can only plant after my daughter went to sleep, meaning after 10pm.
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 3 2012, 09:19 AM)
lol, you should give more respect to ppl who had planted HC in very small clump(2-3 stems each) in their 3ft tank, planning to do that hehe. But still, I respect your  effort since i havent tried it yet.
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Will try HC later. not much choice here in JB.
have to wait for sifu sisaiko to come back to his hometown.
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Apr 3 2012, 09:33 AM)
wow..after 10pm?? then you will finish planting somewhere in 1am or later..

normally i rescape it on weekends...can slowly do...

i wonder what will happen, if:

i buy a new tank, korek the soil in my old tank...put 5element in new tank n put soil, tanam, n direct transfer all fish n plant go there w/o cycle.

what will be the impact? (p/s: im using cannister)
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usually i also slept around that time. but just laying around, watch movie, playing game.
but last 2days, all this planted tank make me really sleepy. hope it really worth it later
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