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post Jan 25 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(KLKS @ Jan 24 2015, 11:48 AM)
I just noticed a small problem with my printer, i tried printing a large square and noticed that the square isnt true. The layers all line up properly. I measured with an 90 degree L ruler and there is a small gap. I checked my X & Y belts for slop and they are fine. Any idea what else i can check for?

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If you are getting a sort of skewed square (not true square) then it is likely due to the angle alignment between the X and Y frames. You might have to bend the X and Y frame so they are 90 degree adjacent to one another. You should get a set square as your 90 Degree reference when aligning the X and Y frames.

QUOTE(koonghx @ Jan 25 2015, 02:27 AM)
Hi,

I am interested in assembling or buying a 3d printer.
If possible, from taobao since I believe China should have the cheapest parts... Correct me if I'm wrong.
My aim is to set it up as cheaply as possible and possibly use it to provide 3d printing services for others. So, I might need the resolution to be quite high.

Technical problems either software or hardware is no problem.

Any suggestions?

Thank you!
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I agree with what cha.968 said about "Everyone can 3D print at a cost!". Its like a joke about Airasia, the more you pay, the better the service. The less you pay, the crappier the service. Also, the best cheapest may be out there but it is certainly not cheap in our currency.

You can jump right into the 3D printing business and provide the service to everyone but can everyone accept the service you are expected to provide?

My advice for a beginner is: go for a reprap, learn the necessary skill to operate and maintain a printer, get lots of experience from 3D printing hundreds of designs, learn to design your own 3D models, then after all that consider buying a good quality 3D printer and start your business. My 2 cents as a 3D printing service provider.

Also koonghx, welcome to the reprap forum, where we double as sources for sourcing 3D printer parts and support group... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jan 25 2015, 03:27 PM)
depends where you live, I think most of the shop listed are from Klang Valley.
http://reprap.org/wiki/RUG/Malaysia#Local_Suppliers

i recall someone posted a listed as well in this forum.

not sure some of the part like hotend, ramps board, and polulu stepper motor controller is available local. i usually get it oversea. some of us get the parts from aliexpress also.
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The list of parts and links for sources are scattered across this topic. Have to go back several dozen pages to find them. tongue.gif

I got most of my stuff from Ebay, still alright but expect long shipping time. shocking.gif

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post Jan 26 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 26 2015, 08:28 AM)
Morning guys!

I have finally managed to assemble my PRUSA i3 and get it to print but i have this very disturbing problem. The first time I switch on the printer, the RAMPS unit was producing white smoke! Yup! Scared the hell out of me. I switch off the printer immediately and found that the transistor which was hooked to the heatbed was the main culprit. It was too hot that it burned some plastic component near it. What i did was straighten the transistor so that it doesnt lean to any other component but looks like it is still too hot when its hooked up with the heatbed. When I unplug the heatbed from the RAMPS everything works fine.

Can anyone advice on what seems to be the issue here and what i should do about it???

Thanks in advance.
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Congrats on the assembly. thumbup.gif

As for your heater bed issue, it could be a few things but I don't know you will have the tools to test the system. Anyway you should read this http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?219,169361,169361 since this has the same issue as your heater bed transistor overheating. You have to check the resistance in your heater bed to find the current draw for a 12 volt supply. I have a 8" x 8" MK2A heater bed and it has a resistance of about 1 to 2 ohms which means it will draw about 6 to 12 Amps, so your bed should be between these resistance ranges. Another thing to look for are the polyfuse, which are the flat light brown pieces (either shape as a disc or square) mounted next to the transistor. Make sure the plastic bit that got burnt isn't the fuse because the fuse may not work properly when damaged. If all else fails, it could be the transistor and you may have to try replacing it with a different one.

QUOTE(feiming @ Jan 26 2015, 09:03 AM)
I'm having issue with my ramps. There's no power at my heater MOSFET after turning it on. It's fine when I touch the extruder heater to 12v source and able to read tempreture.

I'm using teacup.anyone know what when wrong? It was fine before I calibrate.
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Try checking your heater bed connection and measure the resistance of the heater bed.

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post Jan 27 2015, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(feiming @ Jan 26 2015, 03:29 PM)
Not heater bed,I don't have heat bed. Its the hotend. Extruder heater.
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Whoops, my bad. Wasn't paying attention. sweat.gif

Could it be your wiring and or check to see if there is power at your extruder connector? Also, make sure its connected to the correct terminal connector, its D10 for the first extruder and D9 for the second extruder. You might want to post some pictures of your setup.

Can you try check if the MOSFET is working with a multimeter with the dial in voltage.

Your extruder heater cartridge is definitely working but now it could be the connection or the MOSFET or your firmware.

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post Jan 27 2015, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 27 2015, 08:33 AM)
I was told by a friend that some thermistor has polarity so i switch the polar and now it works! The heatbed is around 28C in room temperature so thats normal. Now i need to test out the resistance of the heatbed before proceeding to the RAMPS.

PS. Is it normal for PLA to leak out of the hotend?
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Can you post a picture of your thermistor or your hotend? Thermistors don't have polarity because it is sensed based on the change in resistance with temperature. The one thermal sensor that has polarity are thermocouples, which is sensed based on the voltage (polarity) produced when heated.

"Leak out" is quite vague for us, you might have to state where its leaking... sweat.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 28 2015, 12:17 AM)
Sorry havent got used to a lot of terms and components.

Once again sorry for the dark picture. There is this piece of rectangle thing on the hotend. I guess its the heatsink for the hotend. Notice there are some dark substance on it?
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No worries, you will eventually learn the terms and components while tinkering with your printer. icon_rolleyes.gif

That is bad, I mean that dark substance on top the heater block indicates PLA leakage. This is usually due to the heater block coming loose when heated or the threading may have been compromised. One way to fix this is to tighten the connection between heater block and heat sink by using a spanner. Make sure to heat up the hotend to about 100 to 150 deg before attempting to unscrew or tighten the connection because the PLA inside the hot end will make it difficult to unscrew or tighten. By the way, that should be a E3D hotend right?
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post Jan 28 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jan 28 2015, 10:07 AM)
Finally done designing the mounting for the E3D hotend
user posted image

This is how it looks like on the printer together with an inductive proximity sensor
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That's one huge proximity sensor! shocking.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 28 2015, 01:18 PM)
Thanks for the encouragement. In fact I would like to thank everyone here for their support and making this thread such a wonderful place for people like me to learn about 3D printing. biggrin.gif

Normally i would prefer to search for a solution in the net but its very difficult if you dont know the name of the thing which you are looking for. Thanks for the link! It is very helpful. Hopefully i didnt over tighten the heatbreak/heater block. tongue.gif
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Appreciate the acknowledgement. thumbup.gif I am also learning from you guys as well.

Normally I would look up in reprap.org for the names of the things or the terms but forums are still the best place to ask.

If for some reason the tightening fails, use one or two layers of PTFE/teflon tape or plumbers white tape to form a nice seal between the hole and thread. biggrin.gif You can buy it off from any hardware store for a few ringgit.
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post Jan 28 2015, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(feiming @ Jan 28 2015, 02:55 PM)
I found the problem. Arduino and shield don't have contact. My friend was helping me debugging it thru a phone. We were testing resistor's voltage, i notice it work when i press hard.

Thanks for the advice.
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Sure and how did your friend use his phone to debug the problem?

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post Jan 28 2015, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 28 2015, 04:15 PM)
PTFE/teflon or plumber white tape? I thought those cant withstand high temperature. tongue.gif

Anyway, is there a way to prevent PLA from warping while on the glass print bed? Im printing without a heatbed for now since i dont want my house to be on fire yet. tongue.gif
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If you check wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene, the melting temperature is quite high and in some hotends, they use a teflon tube as a lubricating sleeve for the filament guide.

I have not tried printing on glass before but you can lay masking tape and use dilute PVA glue for the first layer adhesion and to reduce warpage. Another method is to use raft or brim (my favorite) to create better surface adhesion. Brim creates a border that extends surrounding your print so mounting to the bed surface is better for your print while holding down the edge from warping.

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post Jan 29 2015, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 29 2015, 11:20 AM)
I am done with the issue of PLA leakage. Now im trying to troubleshoot another problem. I observed that the first few layers of my prints tend to be squashed and as a result produce print which is off in terms of height. Can anyone suggest what seems to be the issue here?

Thanks again.
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Let us know which problem you are facing based on the link provided by cha.968.

QUOTE(cha.968 @ Jan 29 2015, 01:31 PM)
Warping?
Might refer to this guide although you are not using Ultimaker.
http://support.3dverkstan.se/article/23-a-visual-ultimaker-troubleshooting-guide
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Nice find! That's a really good link for 3D printing diagnostics. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jan 30 2015, 09:37 AM)
we dont agak-agak the distant we use a very precise and sophisticated tool which is a piece of paper  thumbup.gif

this is basic reprap leveling bed,

http://reprap.org/wiki/Leveling_the_Print_Bed

or watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED1Gxvw2Rmw
if you bought your printer from blomker then it not E3D, that just custom hotend from blomker E3D normally have wider and larger heatsink
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Yup, some recommend using business card as a more advance way of leveling the bed.


QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 30 2015, 09:57 AM)
Yup i used that sophisticated tool too. tongue.gif Just slide in under the tip and move it around see if it gets stuck. Will try to read through the link and see if there is anything i can learn from it.

Thanks again. biggrin.gif
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After a long time of leveling beds and with enough experience, you can use the agak2 method to level beds. I do that a lot nowadays because I ran out of business cards for that. tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jan 30 2015, 01:22 PM)
wow you throw out the business card eh? tongue.gif, some business card are thick not really suitable but sticky note can do also, but I'm normally use my feeler gauge if I can find it if not sticky note will do hehe
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More like lost the business card biggrin.gif and I normally level with the hotend warmed up to 210 Deg so any hotend expansion is taken into account with the leveling for the first layer.

QUOTE(KLKS @ Jan 30 2015, 01:32 PM)
i do it by agak2, hasn't failed me so far smile.gif. Normally check the bed after every 5-7 prints.
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Normally, I only check when the first layer print is having problems, otherwise I won't disturb the bed. I also notice the bed level will shift especially after removing a finish print that was stuck to the bed. Probably the prying and pulling caused the problem.

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post Feb 3 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Feb 3 2015, 10:14 AM)
Hi guys!

Anyone have any extra 0.35mm nozzle for sell? I am using a 0.4mm nozzle at the moment and i was wondering if should try out different size of nozzle for my printer.

Another thing. Do you guys build special housing for your module? Having it dangling on the side of my PRUSA i3 doesnt seems right to me. tongue.gif
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I have a still-not-in-use-and-not-sold 0.3 mm China JHead hotend for sale. I have been using this Jhead model for all of my prints and so far I have not have any problems with it and all of my prints turned out really nice. I won't be able to sell you the nozzle alone and besides, you have to get the whole hotend since the nozzle is part of the heating block. If you are interested, you can PM me more about it.

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My recommendation, just print a housing for it and attach it to your reprap. It will save you the trouble from unplgging and setting it up as you move the printer around and protects it from dust and PLA/ABS stringing buildup.
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post Feb 4 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(jamminc @ Feb 3 2015, 04:23 PM)
This is wonderful.  Spent the whole day reading learnt so much on 3D printing.  Count me in... looking to get one for some fun and printing.  Will continue to do my research and update if I actually take the plunge.  smile.gif
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Glad to hear more people are interested in Reprap and 3D printers. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Feb 4 2015, 09:55 AM)
converted my mendelmax 1.5 to something diffrent, still need to recalibrate Z and bed leveling my inductive sensor decide to fail on me so have to manually level the bed now  vmad.gif, changed the heated to aluminum heatbed but I can't get the dam thing to heat up too 110c, I only able to heat it up to 80c never go beyond that I'm using 12v 30A power supply and only heating the bed my extruder have no problem getting to 230c smile.gif seem the printer does not want to print ABS just yet  cry.gif

plus last week the green ramps connector melted on me, I always see warning about the connector melting and I see it first hand smile.gif, and any idea on the heat bed, don't really want to install back my mk2a heat bed to test lol
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You may want to get a separate solid state switch and a dedicated power supply for your Heater bed because the controller board is not meant to take in very high currents ( more than 10 A) at one time. The melted green connector indicate the connector is not designed for such currents and I have mentioned before that it is not recommended to directly connect the heater bed to the controller board and instead to be safe, use the heat bed output to control a high current solid state switch that regulates the heater bed power.

I bought a 28A solid state switch a while ago but have not have the time to buy a dedicated power supply for it yet. I was planning to use a 250W computer PSU as the power source but It didn't work as expected due to the over current safety kicking in every time I power the heat bed.

You could use the IRF3808 transistor but you should not tap power from the controller board and instead hook the power supply directly to the transistor source lead. Also, separating the transistor from the board and having it on its own heat sink will be a safer choice.

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post Feb 4 2015, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(jamminc @ Feb 4 2015, 10:47 PM)
Just curious, what combination of G-Code generator, Host software and firmware are you guys using?  Any recommendation on which combination is best for a beginner?
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The proper term for G-code generator is slicer. I am using Cura 14 as the slicer and the host software is Octoprint on the Raspberry Pi.

IMO, easiest slicer and host to use is Cura and Pronterface (now called Printrun for the GUI version).

Other known slicers out there: Slic3r (Tons of parameters to play with) and KisSlicer.

Other host: Repetier Host and Makerware (works for makerbots only)

Firmware is a bit difficult to determine for my printer but as far as I know, it should be a heavily modified Marlin for the Printrboard Rev D.

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post Feb 5 2015, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Feb 5 2015, 02:09 PM)
printrbot still using marlin with modification to work on printrbot controller board plus some improvement on the working code such as the auto-leveling and stuff

https://github.com/Printrbot/Marlin

AFAIK only printrbot to date extensively using auto-leveling with inductive sensor and they are so confident with it,if you notice most printrbot have no ability to adjust the bed manually (so what I heard) maybe altan can chine in he own one smile.gif
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Regarding the firmware for Printrbot, apparently the firm ware is so heavily modified I can't just simply load it onto a Ramps 1.4-Mega and hook it up to the Printerbot just like that. I tried it the last time and it was a big headache to get everything setup properly and in the end the auto bed leveling feature doesn't work with the Ramps 1.4-Mega controller board.

The manual bed adjustment would be redundant as the auto bed leveling code will cancel out any adjustment to the bed and carry out the print based on the 3 point plane estimation. The only thing I need to manually adjust is the hotend tilt level with regards to the probe which is something I find annoying because the angle of where the nozzle points is not taken into account in the auto bed leveling. In other words, what happen was my hotend and probe carriage frame is slightly bent out of shape so I find that the nozzle height is different for the three probe points. I have to someday try and bend the frame back so it is level with the induction probe.

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post Feb 8 2015, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Feb 8 2015, 05:34 PM)
Just broke my thermistor leg doh.gif
Do you guys still have stock for this thermistor ?
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How did you break a leg? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 10 2015, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Feb 10 2015, 09:43 AM)
Hmmm... guess i better not play around with the setting in the firmware. I find it inconvenient to have the home position in front. Most of all, i would like the printer to present the completed print in front so i wont have to push all the wiring aside.

I will most likely try that approach you have mentioned which is to tweak the setting in slic3r.

Thanks again. biggrin.gif
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If not mistaken, Slic3r allows you to add additional Gcode to the start and end of the print. You can add a Gcode command saying where you want the hotend to move to the end of the print. I forgot which command to use, you have to search it up.

Recently been busy... sweat.gif


QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Feb 10 2015, 01:58 PM)
my e3d hotend keep clogging, so i have to dissemble everything and put it back again. i guess after few time, the leg just gave up  sweat.gif
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I have a few 100k NTC thermistor for sale, If you like, just PM me. Though its not the same as the one in your picture, it a 1mm glass glass sealed thermistor, the common one.


QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Feb 10 2015, 05:05 PM)
Well Qwikfab doesnt charge much on shipping, only SGD15 to Melaka.

Try check the cost to ship to your place.
http://web.qwikfab.com/
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Lucky for me, I travel between JB and SG so I can go over to their office, chit chat, and buy a couple of filaments... tongue.gif

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post Feb 13 2015, 09:29 AM

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Does anyone know how to contact the e-Nable community in Malaysia (the group that showed up in the newspaper for 3D printing a hand for a kid) because someone I know would like to contact them.
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post Feb 13 2015, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(cha.968 @ Feb 13 2015, 07:48 PM)
You could try FaceboOK
https://m.facebook.com/pebbelreka
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Thanks but are they related to e-NABLE group because I think they want to find volunteers in Malaysia.

QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Feb 13 2015, 08:01 PM)
he not part of e-nable just a normal guy like us lending extra hand, I will ask if i can share his number to you, please let me know from who he will be expecting call
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It a 3D printing company that would like to be in contact with an e-NABLE volunteer so they could find children whom they can sponsor a 3D printed prosthetic limb.


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