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 Nokia 808 The New King of Cameraphone!, Available now!!

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tonberry_ax
post Mar 1 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 1 2012, 11:46 AM)
Yup, but let's just say, if you take at full resolution, there's no oversampling, so it's still the same as other camera.

If you max zoom at 5MP, there's also no oversampling, so it's the same 5MP file as other camera BUT
1. You zoomed 3X (similar to optical) and still have f/2.4 aperture, compared to conventional camera, the aperture would've changed, thus less light. That's one benefit and advantage.
The come up with this idea because for the past 5 years, they're trying to do an optical zoom, but it will be bulky, costly, and also the aperture problem.
With this, it's a good especially for compact size, yet have more benefits.

Sadly, many people decide to write up blogs and article without fully understanding.

In anyway, it's still a good technology and something that is really nice and interesting. Imagine implementing this technology to cameras (although I think Canon have something similar?)? I don't know why so many prejudice, maybe because it's Nokia and not Apple; If Apple, then "This Changes Everything".
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If that is apple, they will say: "oh we invented this, we are the god of inventor.. blah blah blah~~~"
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post Mar 1 2012, 12:01 PM

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Better pattern it 1st b4 other copy it.. LOL..
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Mar 1 2012, 12:46 PM)
so the pureview is a technologies renew and not platform selected... so we can expect it will be release for others platform in future, but same thing is would there be another same camera module be use... brows.gif
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since the major IP is in the co-processor of 808 PureView, moving to other platform is just a matter of making the target platform suitable and port over the interfaces

inclusion of camera sensor module of similar large size will depend on how market react to thicker phone size
if everyone don't like the phone to be thick then there's no option for larger sensor module
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post Mar 1 2012, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(deShinyDevil @ Mar 1 2012, 12:47 PM)
now is 41mp pureview, what is coming up next?  tongue.gif
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I bet competitors will have a hard time overcoming it. Nokia put its position in a very advantagous way. 2 years N8 is still the king and now which competitor will be taking nokia 808 pureview throne? 3 years from now?
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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Mar 1 2012, 12:54 PM)
If that is apple, they will say: "oh we invented this, we are the god of inventor.. blah blah blah~~~"
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did apple really said that themselves or the non tech savvy fans out there just went worshiping? hmm.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 12:04 PM

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Elop playing fruit ninja lolol!

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BTW: rumor has it that S. Elop went over to the HTC booth and basically pulled a ‘in your face’ with the 808 to the director of HTC.. (something like telling him lets take  a picture together; with our 41MP camera)



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For people thatuses dslr and like photography they used to dslr size so a phone like pureview 808 they will do fine
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post Mar 1 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Mar 1 2012, 12:02 PM)
I bet competitors will have a hard time overcoming it. Nokia put its position in a very advantagous way. 2 years N8 is still the king and now which competitor will be taking nokia 808 pureview throne?  3 years from now?
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I don't think others will go fight 808.. Just like how AMD change their strategies against Intel.. Since can up the performance as good as intel, they provide adequate performance, much powerful gpu etc...

Since other phone can't compete in camera, they might just add other feature to their phone to cover their bu*t that their can't fight 808...

flex.gif flex.gif 808 flex.gif flex.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(haley0918 @ Mar 1 2012, 12:03 PM)
did apple really said that themselves or the non tech savvy fans out there just went worshiping?  hmm.gif
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If you look back into history when SJ not died, he brainwashes his iSheep (fans) that a lots of "innovation" that iCopy that introduced is made by him. But the fact is Nokia or other handheld company invent it for the 1st place.

Lets c when iCopy going to say 41MP camera is belongs to them in future. Let's wait & see... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(haley0918 @ Mar 1 2012, 12:01 PM)
since the major IP is in the co-processor of 808 PureView, moving to other platform is just a matter of making the target platform suitable and port over the interfaces

inclusion of camera sensor module of similar large size will depend on how market react to thicker phone size
if everyone don't like the phone to be thick then there's no option for larger sensor module
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although it got transfer the pureview tech to others platform, but will the same 808 camera module follow that's the ultimate questionmark... as it's not a cheapo module brows.gif so i bet it will be like the N8 the 808 will be one of it's kind for it's camera module... so get it NOW or NEVER!!! icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Mar 1 2012, 01:09 PM)
If you look back into history when SJ not died, he brainwashes his iSheep (fans) that a lots of "innovation" that iCopy that introduced is made by him. But the fact is Nokia or other handheld company invent it for the 1st place.

Lets c when iCopy going to say 41MP camera is belongs to them in future. Let's wait & see...  whistling.gif
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even if there's "true" innovation that comes out from that brand, it's not really made by him, it's his employees


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QUOTE(sklchan @ Mar 1 2012, 01:10 PM)
although it got transfer the pureview tech to others platform, but will the same 808 camera module follow that's the ultimate questionmark...  as it's not a cheapo module brows.gif  so i bet it will be like the N8 the 808 will be one of it's kind for it's camera module... so get it NOW or NEVER!!!  icon_idea.gif
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yes, totally agree!
for this price with that much stuffs inside

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post Mar 1 2012, 12:14 PM

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love yao ming face.lol.apple invent everything!!!!
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post Mar 1 2012, 12:16 PM

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Elop playing fruit ninja lolol!
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Honestly i not interested to know what the worst CEO of 2011 is doing

Btw, he is going to entitle worst CEO of 2012 soon

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post Mar 1 2012, 12:20 PM

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http://www.gsmarena.com/d_dinning_intervie...eview-728p3.php

GSMArena: Is your oversampling technology different from pixel binning technology?

D. Dinning: Yes, it is more complicated than binning. We looked at a number of different methods how we could do this, and some methods preserve more detail, but there are generally a couple of problems here. One is that there's just something not right about the images when you use binning. I won't use the term natural, the term that we use is they are not pure. When you look at the picture, you just see the pixels that relate to the exact detail. What you end up with is you never have strong contrast and there's always a certain softness between pixels—you see three or four pixels leading from black to white. You never see black then white pixels next to each other. Whereas with oversampling, typically you can see pixels literally switch from one color to another. It's really clean.

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post Mar 1 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Mar 1 2012, 12:16 PM)
Honestly i not interested to know what the worst CEO if 2011 is doing
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Before Stephen Elop, Nokia had $2 billion profit a year.
Now it's $1 billion loss a year.
Everytime this guy announces something, share prices drop.
Same thing happened even with this years's MWC.
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QUOTE(haley0918 @ Mar 1 2012, 12:12 PM)
even if there's "true" innovation that comes out from that brand, it's not really made by him, it's his employees
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Exactly! But what the public needs to know, it's just him, the ICON.

Sorry to say, many times, I read his remarks, I find it funny, he sounds more like a sales/marketing person. But it doesn't matter to most people anyway.
Ah... let's not go further on this.

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post Mar 1 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Mar 1 2012, 12:21 PM)
Before Stephen Elop, Nokia had $2 billion profit a year.
Now it's $1 billion loss a year.
Everytime this guy announces something, share prices drop.
Same thing happened even with this years's MWC.
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And he still SS with his lumia crap yet drop MeeGo and Symbian few years after that. vmad.gif I was waiting when is the board of directors will fire this Microsoft trojan. hmm.gif

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post Mar 1 2012, 12:31 PM

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you can throw your worst at the CEO but please don't take down the awesome R&D team that makes 808 PureView possible
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post Mar 1 2012, 02:41 PM

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The Nokia 808 is a technological marvel, but I don't think Elop had anything to do with it. It was probably in the works for a while.

Come to think of it, without the 808, Nokia would have practically nothing exciting to announce at MWC.
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Mar 1 2012, 02:41 PM)
The Nokia 808 is a technological marvel, but I don't think Elop had anything to do with it. It was probably in the works for a while.

Come to think of it, without the 808, Nokia would have practically nothing exciting to announce at MWC.
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