It seems that the 808 forgo the small pin nokia charger for a usb one... meaning my nokia charger in my car will probably be useless unless i can find an adapter for it...

so you mean smaller micro USB ...?

I still remember Nokia N85

if your in car charger also has a USB out then just get another nokia USB-A to micro-USB data cable or just nokia usb charger cable

my car not so advance

Which car Today no cigar lighter hole wan? You must be kidding. Just but a RM10 charger wth micro USB can liao-lah. Even I dun use the dedicated N8 charger but using micro USB charger for mt Nokia N8 and shared wth my wife Xperia W8 & my doughter X10 mini

BTW, reading some of the review website in google and reading those comment..Those guys really dunno to differentiate MP & sensor size..Most of them still thinking 808 sensor is a crap..where can such a small sensor wth such a big MP wan..haha..The best part most of the review sites dun even post the real size of the sensor and dun even mention that the sensor size is even larger than any hi-end compact Digicam in the market Today

i think ppl would jz go wild when they hear 41mp

do average users have knowledge bout sensors?

Buy th charger with usb then u can charge any phone with your USB cable

Just DL one of the sample picture taken by 808 i.e that colourful mountain rope scene wth one mountainer bokeh at the back..The size..>8MB damn so huge...Even my NEX5N 16MP wth giant APS-C sensor avg only 3.8mp haha..Only in raw can get 8mp.

The trade off probably the max apperture only F2.4 & not lower than that..Otherwise the background bokeh will be much sweeter haha

average users nowadays know about "MP doesn't count if sensor if crap"...this had been selling point of alot of smartphone shops (read:galaxy nexus)

well this average users that bashed Nokia 808 clearly didn't know the sensor size of N808...

please forgive these "average" users...

This post has been edited by sklchan: Mar 1 2012, 09:38 AM

Today most people good in talk when u ask them to show they can't like lumia 800 camera. So just let them say what they want and just enjoy what you have

Anyway, I was one of those few that thinking 808 sensor is small when they 1st reviewed bcos most of the sites din state the sensor size that day..paiseh..haha..Until..saw another review site much later and you fella corrected me haha

this is successor of n8 ma.... of cz sensor needs to be better than n8

+999999

I didn't doubt N808's sensor size when Nokia announced N808

Well, that depends on how we see it... no doubt the sensor is nearly as big as the nikon j1 series.. but the trade off is higher MP count in the sensor... They might compare it with dslr as dslr also can't achieve that high level of MP although they got a much bigger sensor... so the trade off is shrinking the pixel size to accommodate more pixels... smaller pixel prone to noise but the again Nokia uses the PureView technology to offset that...

GSMArena publish the interview with Damian Dining, those that do not understand the technology about the 808 41MP sensor, and thought it's a 5MP should go take some time and pay attention and read it. It's informative. ESPECIALLY the person who wrote the front page article, it's so disappointing!

http://www.gsmarena.com/d_dinning_intervie...-review-728.php

Basically, the 5MP is oversampling (just imagine processing a 38/34MP image and resample (oversample) into 5MP) resulting a very high quality image.
You can still take FULL Resolution photo, which means no oversampling is done.
Besides, there's no need to take full resolution everytime, imagine the file size!

If you zoom in 5MP mode, it will reduce the oversampling as you zoom until the maximum.
The reason for this: It's like Optical zoom, but you don't need a zoom lens.
The benefit: Cheaper than investing in a optical zoom lens and maintain the size, plus, the best yet, maintain the aperture. With typical zoom lens, when you zoom, the aperture will change, thus loosing light.

For those still not understand, basically, it's really a 41MP sensor capable of capturing 38MP photo (4:3) or 34MP photo (16:9).
What it does it, it provide oversampling for lower resolution.

Just imagine N8 is 12MP, if there is oversampling, it will be for lower resolution file, not 12MP.
But, on N8 or any other camera, when you choose lower resolution mode, does it have any oversampling? That is the difference.

In short, 808 is shooting at 38MP/34MP depending on what ratio chosen.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Mar 1 2012, 11:11 AM

this is why 808 PureView works in a different dimension compare to conventional camera technology out there

Yup, but let's just say, if you take at full resolution, there's no oversampling, so it's still the same as other camera.

If you max zoom at 5MP, there's also no oversampling, so it's the same 5MP file as other camera BUT
1. You zoomed 3X (similar to optical) and still have f/2.4 aperture, compared to conventional camera, the aperture would've changed, thus less light. That's one benefit and advantage.
The come up with this idea because for the past 5 years, they're trying to do an optical zoom, but it will be bulky, costly, and also the aperture problem.
With this, it's a good especially for compact size, yet have more benefits.

Sadly, many people decide to write up blogs and article without fully understanding.

In anyway, it's still a good technology and something that is really nice and interesting. Imagine implementing this technology to cameras (although I think Canon have something similar?)? I don't know why so many prejudice, maybe because it's Nokia and not Apple; If Apple, then "This Changes Everything".

so the pureview is a technologies renew and not platform selected... so we can expect it will be release for others platform in future, but same thing is would there be another same camera module be use...

This post has been edited by sklchan: Mar 1 2012, 11:47 AM

now is 41mp pureview, what is coming up next?