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post Feb 27 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Feb 27 2012, 04:13 PM)
Hmmm.. does the low impact still apply to technical downhills? tongue.gif
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i dun think you ride a fully rigid bike right? furthermore, it will take a 10 foot cliff jump to make the riders on the bikes of this days feel any shock...so much shock travel...
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 27 2012, 04:06 PM)
cycling is a low impact sport... unlike running.. but you have to remember that going through a full motion of a pedal stroke is much more than what you knee has to go through compared to running... and (65rpm x 60 mins x 1.5 hours) is jus under 6000 pedal strokes... you imagine...

on the contrary to many beliefs.. i was corrected by runners that running actually isn't bad for joints... as impact sports like running actually encourages your body to build more denser bone structures hence stronger bones... assuming you have enough of the calcium and wateve it needs to build it in the first place...

as for your pain... i think you should look into area like your cleat placement in the first place... if it is long term pain, you can go to expert fitters like BG fit studio in GH speedbike... that is if you don't mind paying RM800...

if not, play around with the clea adjustment and see if it helps... i have some bio-mechanics reference.. but too boring too read and often too lengthy i rather let my knee wear itself down... and i often get more confused than before i start reading it...
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my right knee pains developed during HK100 on downhills and steps with total elevation of 4,500 meters. you can imagine how much impact on my knees when downhills and steps.

on my previous cycling rides, until To-date i been cycling for about 400KM plus in total mileage before my HK100. i have no problem on my knees, be it 65KM or 100KM.

Guess my knee recovery is not complete yet.

anyways, thanks for raise up on the cleat placement.
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 27 2012, 04:06 PM)
as for your pain... i think you should look into area like your cleat placement in the first place... if it is long term pain, you can go to expert fitters like BG fit studio in GH speedbike... that is if you don't mind paying RM800...
Another thing to check is seat height. As a general rule, if Ur seat height is too high, injuries can come from behind the knees, if it's too low, U can injured on the front area of Ur knee....

When I switched from my old steel frame to Giant's Cadex CFR-1 frame (which was too small for me), I had to set my seat height about an inch lower becoz I can't find a suitable seatpost on time. The result was a knee injury which forced me off the bike for about 6 weeks... all becoz of 1 inch difference on seat height...


Added on February 27, 2012, 4:54 pm
QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 27 2012, 04:23 PM)
my right knee pains developed during HK100 on downhills and steps with total elevation of 4,500 meters. you can imagine how much impact on my knees when downhills and steps.

on my previous cycling rides, until To-date i been cycling for about 400KM plus in total mileage before my HK100. i have no problem on my knees, be it 65KM or 100KM.

Guess my knee recovery is not complete yet.

anyways, thanks for raise up on the cleat placement.
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If U experience pain only on one leg, different leg lengths could be the culprit. U might have to use orthotics or shoe inserts... go & have it checked la...

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i use ilumenox crocolite..can be seen from rear and even both sides (left and right) ...since it is so good and light..i bought another one..and now I have two on my seat post..blindingly flashing everyone who dares to come up to my rear wheel rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 27 2012, 04:06 PM)
cycling is a low impact sport... unlike running.. but you have to remember that going through a full motion of a pedal stroke is much more than what you knee has to go through compared to running... and (65rpm x 60 mins x 1.5 hours) is jus under 6000 pedal strokes... you imagine...

on the contrary to many beliefs.. i was corrected by runners that running actually isn't bad for joints... as impact sports like running actually encourages your body to build more denser bone structures hence stronger bones... assuming you have enough of the calcium and wateve it needs to build it in the first place...

as for your pain... i think you should look into area like your cleat placement in the first place... if it is long term pain, you can go to expert fitters like BG fit studio in GH speedbike... that is if you don't mind paying RM800...

if not, play around with the clea adjustment and see if it helps... i have some bio-mechanics reference.. but too boring too read and often too lengthy i rather let my knee wear itself down... and i often get more confused than before i start reading it...
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i recently developed a knee pain (right side..left side perfectly fine) it happened after a very short ride..less than 15km...and it is when I start to wear the cycling shoes, the clip and the pedal..could it be a wrong cleat positioning...or my saddle height is a bit too low?

(during installation of the cleat for my bont shoe, the guy at the shop told me that my saddle height is too high and hence he measured with a tape and readjusting it..now i'm not sure which one is the cause of the knee pain..is it the cleat or the height of the seatpost rclxub.gif

but i highly think that is is because of the height...since i feel very relief once I fully extended my right leg...and yes I do think the leg length is the culprit...but it could also caused by the cleat positioning too.. rclxub.gif

my previous 60km ride..i don't feel any pain at all on both of my knees shakehead.gif

This post has been edited by mrjgx: Feb 27 2012, 08:21 PM
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Something good should be shared.. tongue.gif
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And let's support our Malaysian riders!

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Added on February 27, 2012, 9:59 pm
QUOTE(SYAMiLLiON @ Feb 27 2012, 03:52 AM)
reporting in new thread =) btw, anybody knows where can i find seasucker bike rack??
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You could search for it at KH Cycles.Very nice rack..

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 09:46 PM)
Something good should be shared.. tongue.gif
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Nice sticker with own name... where can get and how much?


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Okay, congratz for the new V2 thread. Just some pointer to help cyclist newbie’s when they went into this thread

-Put all the known bicycle shop address in the first post so that newbies wont ask it over and over again or get buried in the posts. I had to admit myself having trouble looking for the bike shop address as I first involved in cycling not in malaysia sad.gif

-Some useful links perhaps? I do not know what link is useful but you guys should know i think?

That all i can think about. Maybe the first poster can do something about it eh to help newbies/forgetful peoples biggrin.gif



I am back and glad to say that I am more or less healed. The only part a still pain abit is my tigh/butt part when walking around. Not as bad as last week by the way. Wont be cycling for few months unfortunately due to commitments and i was still struggling to find a flat land to cycle/practice as the nearest flatland near my place is 20/30 min walk away sad.gif

Can someone pm me the full address of the pinarello malaysia distributor? The one on the website not really accurate as I cant serach it on google map.

Anyone know the new Avanti shop in TTDI? I was wondering what is the address for it because they made a full page appearance in newspaper but they did not put their actual full address. What the heck doh.gif

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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 27 2012, 10:54 PM)
Okay, congratz for the new V2 thread. Just some pointer to help cyclist newbie’s when they went into this thread

-Put all the known bicycle shop address in the first post so that newbies wont ask it over and over again or get buried in the posts. I had to admit myself having trouble looking for the bike shop address as I first involved in cycling not in malaysia  sad.gif

-Some useful links perhaps? I do not know what link is useful but you guys should know i think?

That all i can think about. Maybe the first poster can do something about it eh to help newbies/forgetful peoples  biggrin.gif
I am back and glad to say that I am more or less healed. The only part a still pain abit is my tigh/butt part when walking around. Not as bad as last week by the way. Wont be cycling for few months unfortunately due to commitments and i was still struggling to find a flat land to cycle/practice as the nearest flatland near my place is 20/30 min walk away  sad.gif

Can someone pm me the full address of the pinarello malaysia distributor? The one on the website not really accurate as I cant serach it on google map.

Anyone know the new Avanti shop in TTDI? I was wondering what is the address for it because they made a full page appearance in newspaper but they did not put their actual full address. What the heck  doh.gif
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Aha! Do you know Ducati TTDI?It's just behind there smile.gif
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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 10:57 PM)
Aha! Do you know Ducati TTDI?It's just behind there smile.gif
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Is it near the mazda/naza car dealer there??? Hmm I don go there often enough. Plus I also need the location for the few bike shop in ttdi. cry.gif

Wanna carry some parts back to Australia as the price is similar but in aud only doh.gif

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Feb 27 2012, 08:11 PM)
i recently developed a knee pain (right side..left side perfectly fine) it happened after a very short ride..less than 15km...and it is when I start to wear the cycling shoes, the clip and the pedal..could it be a wrong cleat positioning...or my saddle height is a bit too low?

(during installation of the cleat for my bont shoe, the guy at the shop told me that my saddle height is too high and hence he measured with a tape and readjusting it..now i'm not sure which one is the cause of the knee pain..is it the cleat or the height of the seatpost  rclxub.gif

but i highly think that is is because of the height...since i feel very relief once I fully extended my right leg...and yes I do think the leg length is the culprit...but it could also caused by the cleat positioning too..  rclxub.gif

my previous 60km ride..i don't feel any pain at all on both of my knees  shakehead.gif
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it's hard to tell if it is not a consistent issue... your leg should not be fully extended on the downstroke, crank arm 6 o'clock position.. since that will cause your knee to go into a locking position and then out from it again... it is not good for your knees in the long term.. usually it is about 10-15 degree of bent on the leg on downstroke...

regarding cleats.. i don't think there is a guide.. but try to ride and feel if your feet is naturally trying to go against the clipped in position.... if it is, then it is putting stress on your leg muscles and that isn't good as well... for me, i try to ride without cleats or jus normal shoes and find my pedal sweet spot from there.. then i try to replicate it on the actual shoes with cleat positioning.. it is best that you feet feel naturally settled in and not feel like there is something holding it back... i don't think we'll be able to get the perfect setup since out of saddle, sitting more forwards and back on the saddle will also affect the positioning... but find one that suits your riding style best...

i find that myself prefer a more midfoot cleat rather than the usual recommendation... but unfortunately.. the shoes don't allow cleats to go that far back and with this setting.... a lot of front wheel clearance issues...

QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 09:46 PM)
Something good should be shared.. tongue.gif
And let's support our Malaysian riders! 
unlucky for the team to have dropped him jus so short of notice....

genting is coming in 2 days... who'd you think will win?

will DZ try to attack on the climb? or would vino execute a do or die maneuver to recover his 4 minutes deficit on DZ... too bad they placed genting too far away from the final stage or it will be the decider...


Added on February 27, 2012, 11:16 pm
QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 27 2012, 10:54 PM)
Okay, congratz for the new V2 thread. Just some pointer to help cyclist newbie’s when they went into this thread

-Put all the known bicycle shop address in the first post so that newbies wont ask it over and over again or get buried in the posts. I had to admit myself having trouble looking for the bike shop address as I first involved in cycling not in malaysia  sad.gif

-Some useful links perhaps? I do not know what link is useful but you guys should know i think?

That all i can think about. Maybe the first poster can do something about it eh to help newbies/forgetful peoples  biggrin.gif
I am back and glad to say that I am more or less healed. The only part a still pain abit is my tigh/butt part when walking around. Not as bad as last week by the way. Wont be cycling for few months unfortunately due to commitments and i was still struggling to find a flat land to cycle/practice as the nearest flatland near my place is 20/30 min walk away  sad.gif

Can someone pm me the full address of the pinarello malaysia distributor? The one on the website not really accurate as I cant serach it on google map.

Anyone know the new Avanti shop in TTDI? I was wondering what is the address for it because they made a full page appearance in newspaper but they did not put their actual full address. What the heck  doh.gif
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the address is
B-3-11, Block B, TTDI Plaza, Jalan Wan Kadir 3

the baik bike directory would be the best bet for most other shops... bike plus might be too new...

http://www.baikbike.com/biking-stores/

not much point to stick it on first post... jus formality i think... since most newbies will ask either way... if you stick it there.. then we'll say... go read first page and end up pissing them off at the same time ourselves because we put it there and they don't bother to read... i guess no win-win situation.. most importantly to offer help by answering if it ain't too hard...

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 27 2012, 11:03 PM)
it's hard to tell if it is not a consistent issue... your leg should not be fully extended on the downstroke, crank arm 6 o'clock position.. since that will cause your knee to go into a locking position and then out from it again... it is not good for your knees in the long term.. usually it is about 10-15 degree of bent on the leg on downstroke...

regarding cleats.. i don't think there is a guide.. but try to ride and feel if your feet is naturally trying to go against the clipped in position.... if it is, then it is putting stress on your leg muscles and that isn't good as well... for me, i try to ride without cleats or jus normal shoes and find my pedal sweet spot from there.. then i try to replicate it on the actual shoes with cleat positioning.. it is best that you feet feel naturally settled in and not feel like there is something holding it back... i don't think we'll be able to get the perfect setup since out of saddle, sitting more forwards and back on the saddle will also affect the positioning... but find one that suits your riding style best...

i find that myself prefer a more midfoot cleat rather than the usual recommendation... but unfortunately.. the shoes don't allow cleats to go that far back and with this setting.... a lot of front wheel clearance issues...
unlucky for the team to have dropped him jus so short of notice....

genting is coming in 2 days... who'd you think will win?

will DZ try to attack on the climb? or would vino execute a do or die maneuver to recover his 4 minutes deficit on DZ... too bad they placed genting too far away from the final stage or it will be the decider...
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what team? I don't think David Zabriesky can beat Adiq H Othman.I cycled with Adiq and Anuar and I know Anuar is the wild card of sprinting and Adiq is the King of Climbs. Loh Sea Keong is very good too, really am a big fan of his. And best of all The Salleh brothers Zamri and Harrif did a good job today by getting Harrif 3rd place podium run for Muar Stage.Tomorrow there are 3 climbs.The best should be watched at Genting Perez.hehehe..
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if you wanna see pinarello.. i think KSH TTDI will also have quite a few of their road range... and shouldn't be too far away from bike plus if you do visit...

furthermore.. distributor might not be a retail shop... and might not entertain end users.. only dealers will...
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 27 2012, 11:19 PM)
if you wanna see pinarello.. i think KSH TTDI will also have quite a few of their road range... and shouldn't be too far away from bike plus if you do visit...

furthermore.. distributor might not be a retail shop... and might not entertain end users.. only dealers will...
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if you want the real deal of Pinarello's go to Jami Bike Shop in Kajang.That's where the good stuff comes..

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 11:18 PM)
what team? I don't think David Zabriesky can beat Adiq H Othman.I cycled with Adiq and Anuar and I know Anuar is the wild card of sprinting and Adiq is the King of Climbs. Loh Sea Keong is very good too, really am a big fan of his. And best of all The Salleh brothers Zamri and Harrif did a good job today by getting Harrif 3rd place podium run for Muar Stage.Tomorrow there are 3 climbs.The best should be watched at Genting Perez.hehehe..
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i meant it was unlucky to get dropped by national colors since he came back specifically for this... it would be more preferable for him to win in national colors in his home tour...

i am not excluding asian riders.. but there are quite some big guns in this edition of the tour... i guess it is really up to whether they have garnered enough interest in winning the GC...

tomorrow although there are several climbs.. but none high enough to gain massive time and too far away from the finish line.. genting would be the sure fire bet if any of the pro tour or pro continental teams have interest.. it is long enough and it is a mountain top finish although there are 3 more stages after it before the final day...

if team tactics were to come into play... i think some of the pro tour guys can really cause some damage on stage 6... after that.. it is a lot of rolling terrain with no massive climbs...

DZ is no known climber.... but there is tom danielson in garmin baraccuda and not forget the kazakh loose canon... we also have a previous GC jose rujana in adroni giocattoli... if he manage to maintain his giro form against contador.. he might also put in some huge time on the stage to genting... he is jus 1.5 mins down anyways... and i remember genting was also how he sealed his victory 2 years ago...
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 27 2012, 11:33 PM)
i meant it was unlucky to get dropped by national colors since he came back specifically for this... it would be more preferable for him to win in national colors in his home tour...

i am not excluding asian riders.. but there are quite some big guns in this edition of the tour... i guess it is really up to whether they have garnered enough interest in winning the GC...

tomorrow although there are several climbs.. but none high enough to gain massive time and too far away from the finish line.. genting would be the sure fire bet if any of the pro tour or pro continental teams have interest.. it is long enough and it is a mountain top finish although there are 3 more stages after it before the final day...

if team tactics were to come into play... i think some of the pro tour guys can really cause some damage on stage 6...  after that..  it is a lot of rolling terrain with no massive climbs...

DZ is no known climber.... but there is tom danielson in garmin baraccuda and not forget the kazakh loose canon... we also have a previous GC jose rujana in adroni giocattoli... if he manage to maintain his giro form against contador.. he might also put in some huge time on the stage to genting... he is jus 1.5 mins down anyways... and i remember genting was also how he sealed his victory 2 years ago...
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Genting Stage, I'm gonna standby at Gohtong like an *******.lol
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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 11:33 PM)
if you want the real deal of Pinarello's go to Jami Bike Shop in Kajang.That's where the good stuff comes..
don't know wat is the intention minizian wants with pinarello anyways.. but i think having to head to kajang is like too far away for minizian who lives somewhere in uptown if i am not wrong?


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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 11:35 PM)
Genting Stage, I'm gonna standby at Gohtong like an *******.lol
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i am going to stick by my plan.. stand where there is not much people and speeds are slow and most importantly no barriers separating the road going up and down... then put in a big shove.. steal bike, make u-turn and like lance says to floyd... "ride like you stole something" in my case preferably an SL4...

who's with me?

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 27 2012, 11:36 PM)
don't know wat is the intention minizian wants with pinarello anyways.. but i think having to head to kajang is like too far away for minizian who lives somewhere in uptown if i am not wrong?


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i am going to stick by my plan.. stand where there is not much people and speeds are slow and most importantly no barriers separating the road going up and down... then put in a big shove.. steal bike, make u-turn and like lance says to floyd... "ride like you stole something" in my case preferably an SL4...

who's with me?
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Actually i want to go to Jami bike shop cause a friend of mine who is regular customer there told me about some good deal on parts there same price as Aus but in RM. Hence i was looking for actual address so tat i can find my way there and have a look.

I am living in Amapang area which is quite close to the stage 5 finishing line. Plan to pay a visit there. ANy idea what time does the peloton leave and approx what time they will reach the finish line??

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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 27 2012, 11:51 PM)
Actually i want to go to Jami bike shop cause a friend of mine who is regular customer there told me about some good deal on parts there same price as Aus but in RM. Hence i was looking for actual address so tat i can find my way there and have a look.

I am living in Amapang area which is quite close to the stage 5 finishing line. Plan to pay a visit there. ANy idea what time does the peloton leave and approx what time they will reach the finish line??
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oohhh.. my bad.. thought i recall you mentioning you live near joo ngan... or you meant joo ngan "joo ngan" the senior one... well, that proves i have some lousy taiwanese made memory chips with corrupted data...

for the stage start and estimated end time.. you can refer to the race manual in the LTDL site...

for stage 5...
http://www.ltdl.com.my/2012/download/Stage05.pdf

the rest of it...
http://www.ltdl.com.my/2012/download.asp

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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 27 2012, 11:51 PM)
Actually i want to go to Jami bike shop cause a friend of mine who is regular customer there told me about some good deal on parts there same price as Aus but in RM. Hence i was looking for actual address so tat i can find my way there and have a look.

I am living in Amapang area which is quite close to the stage 5 finishing line. Plan to pay a visit there. ANy idea what time does the peloton leave and approx what time they will reach the finish line??
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minizian, pm me who's your friend name is.I live in Wangsa Maju.Alot of people here are currently a Pinarello fanatics. We have our own road group too. brows.gif
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 28 2012, 12:00 AM)
oohhh.. my bad.. thought i recall you mentioning you live near joo ngan... or you meant joo ngan "joo ngan" the senior one... well, that proves i have some lousy taiwanese made memory chips with corrupted data...

for the stage start and estimated end time.. you can refer to the race manual in the LTDL site...

for stage 5...
http://www.ltdl.com.my/2012/download/Stage05.pdf

the rest of it...
http://www.ltdl.com.my/2012/download.asp
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Hey thanks for the links, really helpful. Finish is damn close to close to my house, just a 5 min ride away by car. Hope no mega jam there doh.gif Hope to get some pics with the rider? If its that possible? Will there any freebies given out at that area?

Btw, I saw one shop with the board Joo ngan in ampang. What is the diffrence with the other store in ss2 (if i not wrong)? Each operated by Dad and son respectively?

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