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post Mar 17 2012, 04:18 PM

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sorry din really managed to test out, body is weak. I tried to cycle in hulu langat, 7.5km out i felt that my body cant take it, just u turn back.

But generally it's rather cooling during the ride.. but the sun aint really hot at that time too.

i brought my bike to a newly opened bike shop, the bike shop boss said my bike is ill fitted, he made some adjustment, such as tilted the angle of saddle, bring my saddle higher, and drop my handle bar lower. Now I am not sure it's too high for the saddle but does feel a bit smoother but my leg is very extended compare to last time, and the drop bar is at a very low position now, i am not sure how to use the drop bar position now unless i stretch my back downwards that much..
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post Mar 17 2012, 09:34 PM

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hi, i've a question..is loading a full load of protein into our body prior to long distance cycling is good for the body? i'm talking about whey protein powder which I usually consume for my post gym workouts.
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post Mar 17 2012, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 17 2012, 09:34 PM)
hi, i've a question..is loading a full load of protein into our body prior to long distance cycling is good for the body? i'm talking about whey protein powder which I usually consume for my post gym workouts.
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hmm.. I'm more of under the impression that protein replacement is to be after a long distance ride to help rebuild your muscles. Pre ride is basically carbo loading
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post Mar 17 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Mar 17 2012, 10:17 PM)
hmm.. I'm more of under the impression that protein replacement is to be after a long distance ride to help rebuild your muscles. Pre ride is basically carbo loading
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thx malleus. I think the same way too. Owh btw, how do I go to Hospital Orang Asli in Gombak? I try google maps but the best I can found is Jabatan Hal Ehwal Orang Asli. Is it the same place? thx in advance.


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post Mar 17 2012, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 17 2012, 09:34 PM)
hi, i've a question..is loading a full load of protein into our body prior to long distance cycling is good for the body? i'm talking about whey protein powder which I usually consume for my post gym workouts.
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simple answer, no... your body needs time to absorb anything you give it... anything that has to do with replenishing supplies is either done hours prior to ride or even the night before..

that is why if you go to endurance events like full ironman... they will do a carbo loading dinner the night before...

for cycling you worry more about during the rides and post ride replenishment... the 3 most basic is electrolytes, sugar and salts...

QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 17 2012, 10:24 PM)
thx malleus. I think the same way too. Owh btw, how do I go to Hospital Orang Asli in Gombak? I try google maps but the best I can found is Jabatan Hal Ehwal Orang Asli. Is it the same place? thx in advance.
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if you are heading down via MRR2... go the same way as you take karak up genting highlands.. before the start of karak toll, you will get to a 3-way split road with the 3 petrol stations on the left.. middle is heading to genting-kuantan karak toll, right is gombak,...

take the left one which you will see universiti islam sign.. follow the trunk road and you will come to a traffic light junction where you take a left.. a short distance later, you will reach a traffic light T-juntion.. take right and you are on your way to HOA which is about another 5Ks down the road...

lousy gmap user... hope this works..you can see the white road running along side karak hway... then it goes into jalan gombak...

http://g.co/maps/kth9s

there is also an earlier entry where you go through a wet market and mosque... but that might be harder for you.. this i think is more straight forward...

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Guys, my Friend Rafizi Hamdan passed away this morning after being hit from behind by a Proton Saga...He was on his way to Genting Sempah this morning...I was already at GS while he was on his way...To those who know him, please do pray for him...


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post Mar 18 2012, 04:03 PM

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Drop bar length wide should be my shoulder width?

The shop guy said my drop bar is a little too small, just 2 ~ 4 cm smaller, so it's still not too bad
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post Mar 18 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 17 2012, 11:08 PM)
simple answer, no... your body needs time to absorb anything you give it... anything that has to do with replenishing supplies is either done hours prior to ride or even the night before..

that is why if you go to endurance events like full ironman... they will do a carbo loading dinner the night before...

for cycling you worry more about during the rides and post ride replenishment... the 3 most basic is electrolytes, sugar and salts...
if you are heading down via MRR2... go the same way as you take karak up genting highlands.. before the start of karak toll, you will get to a 3-way split road with the 3 petrol stations on the left.. middle is heading to genting-kuantan karak toll, right is gombak,...

take the left one which you will see universiti islam sign.. follow the trunk road and you will come to a traffic  light junction where you take a left.. a short distance later, you will reach a traffic light T-juntion.. take right and you are on your way to HOA which is about another 5Ks down the road...

lousy gmap user... hope this works..you can see the white road running along side karak hway... then it goes into jalan gombak...

http://g.co/maps/kth9s

there is also an earlier entry where you go through a wet market and mosque... but that might be harder for you.. this i think is more straight forward...
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thx butthead, i managed to get to that place in time. I like the route, and the weather this morning was heaven! laugh.gif although I've experienced a little bit of rain making the downhill part a bit slow. It was my first time there btw thumbup.gif


QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 18 2012, 02:47 PM)
Guys, my Friend Rafizi Hamdan passed away this morning after being hit from behind by a Proton Saga...He was on his way to Genting Sempah this morning...I was already at GS while he was on his way...To those who know him, please do pray for him...
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Al-fatihah. I was at GS too when news regarding the accident started to be passed from one to another. may his soul RIP. Unlucky for the hit and run driver, his plat num fell off and the scene was recorded by cctv. he'll get his part for sure.



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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 18 2012, 02:47 PM)
Guys, my Friend Rafizi Hamdan passed away this morning after being hit from behind by a Proton Saga...He was on his way to Genting Sempah this morning...I was already at GS while he was on his way...To those who know him, please do pray for him...
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May he rest in peace.

He was a wonderful classmate of mine. Chatted with him about a week ago about hi-fi in FB since both of us also into this hobby. I was shocked when my friend came to my shop and told me the news.

I hope the reckless p.o.s. driver get caught asap. vmad.gif
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post Mar 18 2012, 08:05 PM

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butthead,

is shimano dura ace c50 a good pair of wheels? let say to compare with fulcrum racing zero 2way fit. the former is much more heavier but it is a carbon clincher and the deep dish does make the bike looks aesthetically pretty. saw quite a few of them today..heard it can be found nowadays around rm2.5k only is that right?

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post Mar 18 2012, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 18 2012, 02:47 PM)
Guys, my Friend Rafizi Hamdan passed away this morning after being hit from behind by a Proton Saga...He was on his way to Genting Sempah this morning...I was already at GS while he was on his way...To those who know him, please do pray for him...
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Oh gosh, was looking at the pic of the bike on the ground. The pedals were broken as well. Hate to imagine the impact needed to break the pedals like that, especially when your feet are clipped onto it.

RIP..
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post Mar 18 2012, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 18 2012, 02:47 PM)
Guys, my Friend Rafizi Hamdan passed away this morning after being hit from behind by a Proton Saga...He was on his way to Genting Sempah this morning...I was already at GS while he was on his way...To those who know him, please do pray for him...
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Inalillah. That shell is close to my house already. I used to pump my bike there.

Everyday walk pass by. Even as a pedestrian, crossing can be dangerous even though there's a zebra crossing. For some reason people usually drive like a maniac going into that junction. There was an accident at that same spot last year.

Is it possible for us to erect a ghost bike? Not only as a memorial but also as a reminder for other road users to use caution.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 18 2012, 02:47 PM)
Guys, my Friend Rafizi Hamdan passed away this morning after being hit from behind by a Proton Saga...He was on his way to Genting Sempah this morning...I was already at GS while he was on his way...To those who know him, please do pray for him...
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that is unfortunate news... our thoughts will always be with his family....

hit and run some more... this people should get penalized to the allowable maximum under the law...


Added on March 18, 2012, 9:58 pm
QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Mar 18 2012, 04:03 PM)
Drop bar length wide should be my shoulder width?

The shop guy said my drop bar is a little too small, just 2 ~ 4 cm smaller, so it's still not too bad
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it should be the width of your shoulder in order for your arms to line up squarely with the hoods and drops... it is jus a general guideline.. some people do like wider bars as they feel it might be more easier to handle the bike or it allows them to breath more freely... 4CM smaller don't sound much... but can restrict things like your breathing a little...

QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 18 2012, 04:11 PM)
thx butthead, i managed to get to that place in time. I like the route, and the weather this morning was heaven!  laugh.gif although I've experienced a little bit of rain making the downhill part a bit slow. It was my first time there btw  thumbup.gif
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apart from road accidents... do be careful at sempah... especially on return trip from the top of sempah... not only is it more technical compared to the lower parts... but road are not as smooth and due to landslide work, there are gravel dragged onto the road sometimes and it can be dangerous... a fall there is either going to land you into the cliff side walls on down the other side to who knows where...

QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 18 2012, 08:05 PM)
butthead,

is shimano dura ace c50 a good pair of wheels? let say to compare with fulcrum racing zero 2way fit. the former is much more heavier but it is a carbon clincher and the deep dish does make the bike looks aesthetically pretty. saw quite a few of them today..heard it can be found nowadays around rm2.5k only is that right?

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if you like aero wheels... no doubt the C50 will offer more wind cheating benefits compared to R0... R0 is more of a general use wheel with more tendency towards climbing and response...

even though they have launched the new C50s... i doubt it is as cheap as RM2.5k still unless they are 2nd hand... there was a time that they cost around there or less when new... i heard those batch were actually stolen ones from the johor factory or something like that...

if you are interested in aero wheels... you can take a look at their new range...C35 is a good base to start instead of a 50mm wheel unless you plan to concentrate fully on flat rides...

http://www.shimano.com/publish/content/glo...e-.wh_road.html

it is lighter than R0 and still has 35mm worth of rim height... more of a direct competitor to zipp 303s as they are aero but not too aero and still maintain a low weight to improve climbing response...

even the new C50 is lighter by a whole lot... but i doubt it is cheap...

http://www.shimano.com/publish/content/glo...e-.wh_road.html

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 18 2012, 04:11 PM)
thx butthead, i managed to get to that place in time. I like the route, and the weather this morning was heaven!  laugh.gif although I've experienced a little bit of rain making the downhill part a bit slow. It was my first time there btw  thumbup.gif
Al-fatihah. I was at GS too when news regarding the accident started to be passed from one to another. may his soul RIP. Unlucky for the hit and run driver, his plat num fell off and the scene was recorded by cctv. he'll get his part for sure.
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what bike did you ride to GS?


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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Mar 18 2012, 08:53 PM)
Inalillah. That shell is close to my house already. I used to pump my bike there.

Everyday walk pass by. Even as a pedestrian, crossing can be dangerous even though there's a zebra crossing. For some reason people usually drive like a maniac going into that junction. There was an accident at that same spot last year.

Is it possible for us to erect a ghost bike? Not only as a memorial but also as a reminder for other road users to use caution.
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I dunno...I'm frustrated to hear about it. Eventhough were not that close, but he's still a cyclist which makes him as a cycling family... Erecting a memorial isn't as easy as you think because later scared JAIS, will think it's one of those ajaran sesat memorials..

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 18 2012, 10:12 PM)
what bike did you ride to GS?
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he owns a merida scultura evo...

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it should be the width of your shoulder in order for your arms to line up squarely with the hoods and drops... it is jus a general guideline.. some people do like wider bars as they feel it might be more easier to handle the bike or it allows them to breath more freely... 4CM smaller don't sound much... but can restrict things like your breathing a little...
apart from road accidents... do be careful at sempah... especially on return trip from the top of sempah... not only is it more technical compared to the lower parts... but road are not as smooth and due to landslide work, there are gravel dragged onto the road sometimes and it can be dangerous... a fall there is either going to land you into the cliff side walls on down the other side to who knows where...
if you like aero wheels... no doubt the C50 will offer more wind cheating benefits compared to R0... R0 is more of a general use wheel with more tendency towards climbing and response...

even though they have launched the new C50s... i doubt it is as cheap as RM2.5k still unless they are 2nd hand... there was a time that they cost around there or less when new... i heard those batch were actually stolen ones from the johor factory or something like that...

if you are interested in aero wheels... you can take a look at their new range...C35 is a good base to start instead of a 50mm wheel unless you plan to concentrate fully on flat rides...

http://www.shimano.com/publish/content/glo...e-.wh_road.html

it is lighter than R0 and still has 35mm worth of rim height... more of a direct competitor to zipp 303s as they are aero but not too aero and still maintain a low weight to improve climbing response...

even the new C50 is lighter by a whole lot... but i doubt it is cheap...

http://www.shimano.com/publish/content/glo...e-.wh_road.html
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thx butthead. was aiming for FO and quoted around rm3.9k for it from my LBS (u know which shop). and suddenly the c50 comes into mind when suggested by my cycling friends and i was surprised that is is way below my budget (quoted rm2.5k - 3k). I was about to save until I have a 4k budget initially tongue.gif

well, I found one in evan cycles website..shipping to non EU will skip us the UK VAT, making the new c50 7900 price at GBP 487, and shipping to malaysia will costs me GBP 70. total up it will be RM2.6k-2.7k. well that is still quite OK with me although I'm a bit worried that it will be damaged during transportation. Saw few in BBS selling at 3k. If all is good, I might shift my intention to aero wheels. love the looks, but not sure how it would perform during climbing, at that weight it might not differs much from my FR Comp but for sure on flatter road it'll be different.

btw, where can I look around for new c50 at KL? which shop carries them? thx

correction: yes c50 is lighter than F0..my bad sweat.gif


QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 18 2012, 10:12 PM)
what bike did you ride to GS?
I ride merida scultura evo..was wearing sky jersey (dark blue). Saw a few pinarello guys over there, maybe one of them is you icon_rolleyes.gif

btw, lot's of expensive bikes there...saw one with lightweight wheels as well..

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 18 2012, 10:12 PM)

I dunno...I'm frustrated to hear about it. Eventhough were not that close, but he's still a cyclist which makes him as a cycling family... Erecting a memorial isn't as easy as you think because later scared JAIS, will think it's one of those ajaran sesat memorials..
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It's like this http://ghostbikes.org/. Though if not JAIS dunno how long it'll last before others 'stole' the ghostbike.
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But what bothers me now is that driver surrenders at 11AM..He also reported that he didn't stop and fled away because he's scared of getting bashed by passerby..And let Rafizi die..Ignorant *******.
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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 19 2012, 04:00 AM)
But what bothers me now is that driver surrenders at 11AM..He also reported that he didn't stop and fled away because he's scared of getting bashed by passerby..And let Rafizi die..Ignorant *******.
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probably because he realized that his plat num was left at the scene hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 18 2012, 10:47 PM)
thx butthead. was aiming for FO and quoted around rm3.9k for it from my LBS (u know which shop). and suddenly the c50 comes into mind when suggested by my cycling friends and i was surprised that is is way below my budget (quoted rm2.5k - 3k). I was about to save until I have a 4k budget initially  tongue.gif

well, I found one in evan cycles website..shipping to non EU will skip us the UK VAT, making the new c50 7900 price at GBP 487, and shipping to malaysia will costs me GBP 70. total up it will be RM2.6k-2.7k. well that is still quite OK with me although I'm a bit worried that it will be damaged during transportation. Saw few in BBS selling at 3k. If all is good, I might shift my intention to aero wheels. love the looks, but not sure how it would perform during climbing, at that weight it might not differs much from my FR Comp but for sure on flatter road it'll be different.

btw, where can I look around for new c50 at KL? which shop carries them? thx
if it is the C50 in your picture... that is heavier than R0, more likely to be above 1600 grams... if you are looking at the new C50 with the fancy white and red decals, that weighs in less than 1500 grams...

my main worry is always the spokes... as you are not as heavy as i am... you might not need that much worry... the C50 utilizes straight pull spokes and if there isn't officially a shop selling them and their replacement spokes.. breaking them is quite a major concern.. the spoke heads look quite funny looking as well (much like the R0's which you can't get from aftermarket replacement ones)...

with aero wheels in mind, i heard there is a set of carbon reynolds or ritchey (hearing problem sometimes) in KSH TTDI that sells for less than RM3k (i heard, no actual fact or surveyed it before)... not sure which model as well.. i assume it is just their entry level one... maybe assault or something like that... should not be as tall as the C50... maybe around 30++mm or so.. which is good balance for aero and lightweight

i saw a pair before mounted on a bike with no decals.. i only knew it was a reynolds when i asked the owner and was surprise with the price... he said he just bought it as it was the cheapest carbon training hoops rclxub.gif

shipping carbon wheels is always a worry.. if they dun label the carton as fragile... dropping something heavy onto the box can crack the rims..

QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Mar 19 2012, 04:00 AM)
But what bothers me now is that driver surrenders at 11AM..He also reported that he didn't stop and fled away because he's scared of getting bashed by passerby..And let Rafizi die..Ignorant *******.
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that is jus an excuse... if he was worried about getting bashed... he would have went straight to the police station immediately and surrender instead of having to wait till the authorities get in touch with him...

there is a police station at the gombak area not far down the road... if no one ever recognized or called the driver, i believe he won't even come forward to admit it...

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