classic steels are a beauty. i think it's gaining popularity again. if can't get the old classics, get the new classic instead. i see shops keeping stock of these frames. tommassini, colnago master x-light, cinelli...

there's a guy around my neighbourhood who collects old bikes and restores them. i think he has more than ten classic bikes. the other day he was on a mint condition peugoet bike.

I think they look more comfortable than modern road bikes. I could be wrong. But most are very expensive. Especially these italian bikes. But i think they are nice. The designs are timeless in my opinion. The craftsmanship, the decals. Or its just cause i like old stuff. HAHA

Well, I hope its okay to ask you guys about whether this bike is a good buy or not? In regards to it being a commuter. Maintenance and upgrading

The link

Can u guys give me your honest opinions. Thanks

Anyone going tis weekend?
http://www.baikbike.com/4th-putrajaya-inte...comment-page-1/
i fr cheras, planning v balakong n kajang buddies ride toward there.

quill stems and threaded headsets... are among things that are harder to find that your favorite team jersey...

not to say that they are not good at all... but will requires quite a lot of attention to it... if you like the bikes for the bikes itself, then it's a great thing... if not, it will be a pain for you to maintain it...

there is only so much you can do about rusts... even if you get a decent frame... there might have to to be some thoughts of stripping the entire frame down to bare metal and re-treat it and then re-spray it....

not to mention metal fatigue with steel frames being another bumming factor... old frames might have lotsa of flex if you decide to ride it hard and fast...

many things to consider... new steel frames on the other hand are much better... you have more updated columbus and reynolds tubes which should be stiffer and last longer than the old famous reynolds 531s... the lugs would be better built and welded as well compared to a poorly handbuilt one... since a nice frame would be expensive..

steel frames are usually more comfortable... due to the fact that the tubes are less stiffer than most composites frames of today... they, on the other hand would suffer more abuse compared to their composite counterparts as steel is known to have very high yield strength...

if you like lugged frames and skinny tubes... then it is a very very fancy bike that i have to admit it...

750 is kinda crazy for that bike... maybe only to me... but give the below 2 a check and see

can't remember i passed by which one... but i did manage to see a couple of those bikes and they are in better condition than what i see in your BBS posting... not always they have since they get it from all over the place.. and they are 2nd hand if you don't mind...
www.olx.com.my
http://gwcycle.blogspot.com/

they jus dump the whole lot outdoors and cover them with tarp... cos they have a lot... and i do mean a lot... a lot's worth of lot...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 13 2012, 06:12 PM

Thanks for the opinion dude. No, i dont mind second hand bikes at all. As long as they are still working, no cracks and (or) is cheap to service. A little rust that can be sanded is the least of my concerns.

Well, i like skinny tubes and chrome and nickel plating. I thought since they are old, made of steel so they might be cheap. But i found that they are quite expensive. I don't have deep pockets. And i'm gonna use my bike for commuting (which isnt that far pon). Found a lot of brand new classics from the 80s still hanging on shop walls but they cost thousands. sigh..

those are jacked up prices... if you do a search for shimano 600... you'd understand what i mean... costs even more than what entry level shimano's are nowadays.. and worst if they are un-opened and un-used ones... although not antique... but people appreciates it strangely and that is what caused the prices to skyrocket..

if you get a lemon... i doubt it'd be cheap to service... my best guess if you wan one which is in decent condition... it might costs half if not more as much as the price of the bike itself...

I see. Doesn't really look like its practically or economically sustainable to have an old road bike then. My hopes went up a bit when i read like international forums saying that old bikes are cheap and cost effective to run. If that is so, maybe I'll just stick to my current GTA bike then.

i think around rm310-330..couldnt remember as I bought with several other items. I bought it at specialized store http://www.ghspeedbikes.com/store/ (the strand, kota damansara). i think most of the price displayed will be given 10% discount (not really a discount though).

prevail s-works model is around rm730..quite pricey..well for me even a couple of grams differences in weight will have and impact on your neck especially on the longer ride where you already tired like hell.. i bought mine for the looks only, but the better ventilation is an added advantage

This post has been edited by mrjgx: Mar 13 2012, 08:03 PM

butthead, want to ask on restoration of old roadbike. my uncle gave me his old roadbike...

is there any shop that provide that kind of service? Thanks

thats very lucky of you vinn_ann.

well, i think some polish and elbow grease might help making it cleaner and much much pretty (we know shiny bikes are faster especially the red ones right?) Jk.. hehe

I think any good bicycle shop can help you restore the bike. General servicing might be best for the first step. If the chain is in bad condition, get it replaced. grease the cables and tune the shifters and derailleurs. I think for starters, thats already good enough to make it going again right?

it is cheap if you ride it as it is...if you start fixing and perfecting it... dead meat...

depending on what you meant by restoration? you can try to ask the fixie shop always since the fixie guys sometimes buy classic bikes to restore it into a fixie...

if you are asking about corrosion treatment, stripping paint and respraying it back to original colors.. you might be on your own...

this stuff should be DIY anyways... that is where the fun comes from, not owning one... i was looking for a velonews article yesterday but could not quite google it... found it just this morning..

Nick's tip on saving a corroding steel frame...
http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/09/bik...and-more_193141

i quote :

Nick,
I purchased a used steel frame (a 2006 model) in December and only recently became aware of rust inhibitors that some recommend applying to the inside of steel frames.

This past weekend I removed the bottom bracket and noticed some rusty colored liquid in the frame. Is it a case of better-late-than-never with the rust inhibitor or should I even bother?
— Adam

A. Adam,
It’s never too late to stave off corrosion. I like J.P. Weigle’s Framesaver and use it in my personal steel bikes. It’s best to take your time and do it properly. At the very least I recommend pulling your seatpost, fork and crank, though it may be easiest to entirely dismantle the bike. Clean out whatever you can reach, getting rid of grease and any surface corrosion with a rag.

Then you’ll want to lay down a tarp or make sure you’re in a designated workspace. The next part can get messy. Spray inside all the tubes, turning the frame to get all the internal surfaces possible. I lay the bike on its side for 10 minutes or so, then rotate it and let it sit again. Once you feel you’ve coated everything, sit it up so the excess can drain towards the bottom bracket. Put a rag in the bottom bracket to soak it up. After a couple hours, you should be ready to reassemble your bike.

this is it... can't get it here last i checked...
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?P...ORY.ID=52&MODE=

it is a big job having to tear down everything and re-treat the frame... basically... a full job is just to dismantle all parts, clean anything that can be cleaned, or strip the paint as you wish and treat the insides of the tubes for corrosion protection...

no easy task.. but will be fun building back a rig of this sort... sourcing replacement parts can be a pain as well.. this is what the bike shop don't want to entertain.. not much money to earn and shit loads of time consuming work.. which is why it is a good project to engage if you are interested in it... just get the shop to dismantle all the stuff, and then take your time to prep the frame..


it depends if there are blemishes, scuff marks or dings to the frame... each frame will be different than the other...

if you just want to ride it... maybe nothing even needs to be done assuming it is ride-able... a few tweaks here and there is unavoidable...

I have done general service @ Uncle Ong, ABC bike shop...

The bike is good for cycling.

Yup. my restoration mean stripping paint and respraying it back to original colors while corrosion treatment needed or not i'm not sure.

Previously Uncle Ong suggested can bring my bike frame to nearby car spraying workshop to spray new paint, but quality is not guaranteed. think twice and decided just service my old roadbike...

It's will be a fun project if i'm were to stay in landed house, knowing how to dismantle and assemble technical knowledge and etc etc...

you can get the bike shop to take off all the parts for you.. most importantly is the crank-bb and headset.. everything else you can take care of it yourself with a set of hex keys...

then you can take your time to prep the frame... if you are up to that stage of restoring it... might as well you take the extra step to treat the inner tubes properly since it might be exposed to dampness and corrosion is a sooner or later thing...

the stripping and sanding part you can do it as well (maybe on your porch or your apartment car wash area) ... then once you are satisfied... get loads of newspaper and stuff it into the head tube and BB area so that the paint does not coat the threads and end up with you un-threading the bolts upon putting the parts back in...

you can bring it to the car paint shops like your bike shop suggests and let them paint it... but they are usually not that known for entertaining this sort of things or they charge you for a lot... find one that has exhaust ventilated booth as those can let the spray particles scatter more nicely and most importantly.. they have a place to hang the frame up for spraying...

i am no expert DIYer.. but i did brought some stem and seatpost to get it sprayed many years back.. those car spray shops... realize the paint gets chipped off fairly easily.. not sure if the solvent paint used are different or it was poorly done... or maybe i did not sand the thing enough for the paint to cling on to the bare metal... 1001 mysteries... among the 10,001 things i won't do now...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 14 2012, 03:32 PM

I paid for this baby today.
S-Works SL3 in Astana colors
Sram Force powered.

2011 or 2010 astana colors? still a sweet ride eitherways.. take care of your new baby...

Link

I think its the 2011 Astana color version.
Will post a photo when I got it.

should be this one...


i did see a 2011 still in GH...

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Added on March 15, 2012, 11:15 amEdge users rejoice...

enter the Barfly computer mount for Edge users...





for 40 bucks poorer... you get more handlebar real estate and a reduced chance of crashing into someone's rear end (because the barfly mount will put your edge further out into your field of vision and would reduce the need to look down that much compared to mounting it to the stem or handlebar)

http://www.abovecategorycycling.com/shop/a...uter-mount.html

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Added on March 15, 2012, 11:22 amA nice article on how the bike rumor mill works or work against the bike industry...

The Torqued Wrench: Leaks, rivalry, intrigue and cycling’s bizarre product cycle

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Added on March 15, 2012, 11:31 amUp against the likes of the big 5, specialized, trek, bmc, look, scott... nah...

they might find it hard to even compete with ridley... Fuji didn't make much of their pro team sponsorship, hard to think of what it can do for Merida...

Merida’s Tour de France ambition

the highlight of the news is not the tour de france ambition but rather the fact that this is the first time i see confirmation that Merida did own 49% of speclized stocks at one point in time rather than the 19% that wiki states... not exciting news, really... and won't get you any discounts for buying merida bikes...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 15 2012, 11:31 AM

Yup, thats the one. I could not get any carbon black SL3 frame anymore and suddenly GH called me saying they had this on offer as a complete bike. Figured out with the SRAM force, wheelsets, seatpost, handles as per their quotation, I've got it at a much reduced price as the components saja dah cost as much as the frameset.

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Added on March 15, 2012, 12:19 pmButthead,

Bro where can I get that meter mound in KL? Can it fit cateye or other brand as well?

This post has been edited by MattJ: Mar 15 2012, 12:19 PM

ok ~ i found the reason (excuse rather than) to buy a Edge 800~

This post has been edited by hianboy: Mar 15 2012, 12:22 PM