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post Feb 21 2012, 02:03 PM, updated 6y ago

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The 4 Important area to cover in your personal life insurance policy!

1)Medical Plan - Previous Pruhealth vs brand new Pruvalue med

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Been sometime since i last update my post here. . . . Well company had remove the previous Pruflexi med plan in replace of the new Pruvalue med. As a consumer you still have the option of either Pruhealth / Pruvalue med. So which card is better or suite you best?? There is no doubt that a medical card is a MUST to have for anybody even if you are cover under your company medical insurance . . . below will be my personal opinion & base on my experience as an agent for nearly a decade now. Majority people purchase their 1st insurance policy will seek for medical coverage as no 1 priority compare to life, 36 CI or PA as i notice. This is true & very important to understand the terms & condition because the insurance cost for medical coverage will be nearly 40% or sometimes even higher of the total premium you have paid.

1 thing i like about Pruhealth is the plan is very straight forward. Choose between plan PHL100 - PHL400 according to your suitability & budget. Plan 500 & 600 are specially for attached rider PRUmedic auto upgrade only. If you feel that the annual coverage is not enough you could always attach PRUannual limit waiver / PRUmedic overseas rider.

This plan is very suitable for working adults which currently hold an existing medical plan (bought many years ago) & feel their existing plan coverage is not enough or currently working & under cover by group medical plan provided from company. You could choose the deductible RM3,000 or RM10,000 option to further reduce your insurance premium while having a great coverage for yourself. drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

As for Pruvalue med, it is either 1MIL, 1.5MIL or 2MIL coverage. This plan does not have an annual limit as Pruhealth & even if used up the coverage limit Prudential still pays 80% out of the total bills. It's highly recommended for child policy or young working adult which are seeking for their 1st insurance policy.

Other important areas to take note on a medical plan:
*the term coverage (example expiry on age 70, 80 or 100)
*any co-insurance involve or limitation during admition or for specific illnesses treatment
*what items is excluded (usually agent will tell you all the included biggrin.gif )
*what is the renewal term
*the insurance charge for now & maybe next 20-30 years

For further information you'll require to check with your servicing agent or the policy itself.

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2)36 Critical Illnesses

Okie, let’s move on to the critical illnesses coverage. In Malaysia, the critical illnesses coverage comes in 3 dozens- that’s 36 illnesses. I have no idea why is that so. This product is somehow like a jackpot with a choice of 36 terminal illnesses. Hit either one, and you will be “rewarded” with the total sum. Say if your critical illnesses policy has a coverage of RM 500,000, that’s the full amount you will be compensated upon diagnosed from a specialist.

While if your critical illnesses policy is insured for RM 25,000, that’s too bad. That amount of RM 25,000 is all you are going to get to get you through the tough period. A simple rule of thumb guide is 1 shall have a minimum of 2-4 years of their annual expenses as a 36 CI coverage.

Below are the TOP 4 critical illnesses & their cost of treatment which account more than 60% from the claims statistic.

(I) Heart Attack - RM30,000 - RM100,000 sad.gif
(II) Stroke - RM50,000 - RM150,000 sweat.gif
(III) Cancer - RM30,000 - RM300,000. Chemotherapy can also range from RM2,000 to RM6,000 per session cry.gif
(IV) Kidney Failure - RM150,000 & above. Haemodialysis is estimated at RM2,000 / monthly cry.gif

1) Stroke
2) Heart Attack
3) Kidney Failure
4) Cancer
5) Coronary Artery By-Pass Surgery
6) Serious Coronary Artery Disease
7) Angioplasty And Other Invasive Treatments For Coronary Artery Disease*
8) End-Stage Liver Failure
9) Fulminant Viral Hepatitis
10) Coma
11) Benign Brain Tumor
12) Paralysis Of Limbs
13) Blindness
14) Deafness
15) Third Degree Burns
16) HIV Infection Due To Blood Transfusion
17) Full-Blown AIDS
18) End-Stage Lung Disease
19) Encephalitis
20) Major Organ / Bone Marrow Transplant
21) Loss Of Speech
22) Brain Surgery
23) Heart Valve Surgery
24) Loss Of Independent Existence
25) Bacterial Meningitis
26) Major Head Trauma
27) Chronic Aplastic Anemia
28) Motor Neuron Diseases
29) Parkinson’s Disease
30) Alzheimer’s Disease / Severe Dementia
31) Surgery To Aorta
32) Multiple Sclerosis
33) Primary Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension
34) Medullary Cystic Disease
35) Cardiomyopathy
36) Systemic Lupus Erythematosus (SLE) With Severe Kidney Complications

3)Life Insurance

Over the years, I've seen that there is a lot of confusion around this topic - from what type of insurance is best to how much you need and where to get it. With that in mind, below are the five most common mistakes people make when it comes to life insurance. Hopefully, through this list, you'll be able to get a better understanding of how life insurance works and why it's a good tool for you and your family. At the end of the day, we all just want to know that our loved ones will be taken care of after we're gone.

Mistake #1 - Having no life insurance at all

Many people simply overlook the importance of life insurance. It doesn't appear to be something they need and it can be viewed as an added expense. But take a second to stop and consider all the important people in your life. If you weren't there, how would they be impacted financially? It's not fun to think about, but by "playing dead" you can begin to understand that life insurance is a critical tool to ensuring your family feels financially supported should anything happen to you. For instance, if you have any outstanding debts or other financial obligations, a life insurance policy will help to ensure that those burdens do not fall entirely on your family members. Remember, it is also important to get life insurance sooner rather than later because the cost can increase exponentially as you age.

Mistake #2 - Relying solely on employer-provided workplace life insurance

Life insurance provided by your workplace is an excellent benefit and can serve as a good starting point for your base coverage. But remember any life insurance provided automatically as a benefit is just that - a starting point. You can purchase additional coverage through your employer or on your own to help fill the gap.

Mistake #3 - Only considering term life insurance

Term life insurance provides a "death" or "survivor" benefit, which is the amount beneficiaries receive if you pass away, for a certain period of time (15, 20 or 30 years are common increments), after which the coverage ends. An alternative solution would be to adopt cash value life insurance, which similarly provides a death benefit, but will grow over the years as long as you continue to fund the policy. Furthermore, cash value life insurance can help with financial obligations in a tax-advantaged way, whether it is paying for college, a business venture or retirement. These policies are generally more expensive, but can make a lot of sense if you are able to commit to regularly funding the policy.

Mistake #4 - Leaving retirement savings vulnerable

If you do not have any/enough life insurance, your family is likely to look to your retirement savings for financial support. This may seem like a safe solution for finding additional resources, but I would advise against using funds saved specifically for retirement for another purpose. If you are the higher earner in the family, your spouse may have been relying on those savings for his or her own retirement. Similarly, if your spouse is forced to liquidate or take large loans from the retirement account, it will hurt the potential long-term investment gains that would have benefitted your family down the road.

Mistake #5 - Guessing on how much life insurance you need

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4)Personal Accident

Most people will have two types of insurance cover: life insurance and health insurance. The purpose of life insurance is to cover the risk of early death and the purpose of health insurance is to act as a cushion against hospitalisation expenses. However, personal accident cover is equally important as compared to life and health cover. Firstly, it will provide financial support to the policyholder if he is disabled after an accident. Secondly, the magnitude of the mishap doesn't matter. Even minor ones like falling off a bicycle and breaking an arm, or fracturing a leg while playing football are covered by the policy. For merely RM150 yearly, 1 shall be easily covered for RM100,000. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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TSColaboy
post Feb 21 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Feb 21 2012, 02:54 PM)
if we have an existing policy can we convert the policy to this new policy?

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At the moment no.
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post Feb 22 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 21 2012, 07:59 PM)
confirm ah outpatient no copayment?

Can compare premium table with pruhealth?
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need some time to work out on the premium diff . . will keep u guys updated


QUOTE(vandoren @ Feb 22 2012, 02:53 PM)
this is not standalone medical card, is it?
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it's attached to our investment-link plan ^^ very good features

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post Feb 22 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 22 2012, 05:15 PM)
i feel like it is too good to be true.. Any hidden setback? Others company do not want to follow?
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The terms & condition are pretty much same with PRUhealth. Only some changes here:

a) Hospital Daily Room & Board Allowance
Reimburse actual room & board charges (subject to daily limit of the
chosen room & board allowance amount for PRUflexi med) made by a
hospital during a hospital confinement, for up to 120 days per year. Any
remaining amount of room & board allowance above the actual room &
board charges will be paid to the policyholder. Any amount paid for this
benefit will not reduce the Overall Annual Limit or Lifetime Limit.

f) Post-hospitalisation Treatment Benefit
Reimburse actual charges for follow-up treatment performed within 90
days after hospital discharge for the medical condition for which
hospitalisation was required. This shall include the medicines prescribed
during follow up treatment but shall not exceed the supply needed for the
maximum 90 days.

e) Pre-hospitalisation Treatment Benefit
Reimburse actual charges for treatment, consultation, investigation and/or
diagnostic tests performed within 90 days prior to hospital admission date,
for a medical condition for which hospitalisation was required.
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 22 2012, 06:20 PM)
if exceeding R/B rate need to topup the difference onli or will have copayment of total cost?
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top up the balance only icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 6 2012, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(gtks @ Mar 6 2012, 10:28 AM)
hey.

this plan sound not bad. can i add the CD and ECP to the investment-linked plan?

I tried to search the plan info from pru website however couldn't find it. any brochure to share?

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yap . . . you can attached to the investment-link plan under PRUlink One

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post Mar 8 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(saintprayer @ Mar 7 2012, 10:17 PM)
As what i know, the lifetime limit stated isnt highest in the market, AIA's ECP+MCP doesnt have a lifetime limit...
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doesnt have a lifetime limit is good but is the policy guaranteed renewable?? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(saintprayer @ Mar 8 2012, 03:19 PM)
It is guaranteed renewable up to age 100.

But you are the pro in this field, maybe you can furnish me little extra info on this rclxms.gif
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well i prefer to not comment on other company products
i believe all have its pro & cons, go through a plan cafefully & buy from a good servicing agent
will be the best plan for you icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(MNet @ Mar 8 2012, 07:57 PM)
Its depend on the age band. Below is the link
http://www2.prudential.com.my/export/sites...Uhealth_eng.pdf

I doubt the new plan will be cheaper than the previous plan.
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the new plan premium will be close to PRUhealth, below are just a sample of the highest coverage for each plan
which include a basic life RM12K & also a waiver rider for a male below age 30 (non-smoker) hmm.gif

FlexiMed
*Premium - RM222/month
*Coverage - RM200,000 p.a / RM4 Mil lifetime
*Room & Board - Will pay you back the difference in cash as an allowance
*Pay only RM300 when you are admited RM300min - RM1,000max or 10% co-insurance

PruHealth
*Premium - RM212/month
*Coverage - RM150,000 p.a / RM1.5 Mil lifetime
*NCB - No Claim Bonus - RM500 per year
*RM300min - RM1,000max or 10% co-insurance

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Mar 9 2012, 12:30 AM)
Seem like FlexiMed is a better deal... make me jealous lah (I'm having PruHealth), does it means Prudential don't give any incentive to 'old customer'?  cry.gif
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Personally I prefer Pruhealth, I notice Pruhealth policy holder will have much higher cash value after sometime due to the NCB. Don't worry you got urself a great deal.
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QUOTE(phra09 @ Mar 23 2012, 12:43 PM)
I just got my Prudential policy from agent after approved for almost 5 months
He is my good friend's friend whom I know also. Looks like he got inyo new business and quite inactive at.he moment
He don't even pass yhe policy n explain to me. Instead he ask my friend pass to me.

I feel like surrender the policy and apply new one ... Is it advisable?

After go through the policy on my own, I think this is prulife ready with investment
Each mth pay rm180. I found out a lot things seem to be differ from what I told..

Can I change to another plan? Or readjust the amount allocation?

Can I also switch to new agent who can guide me thru my policy and my queries?

Thanks a lot
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Well that's should not be the way . . . after all you are his customer. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(kcyau @ Apr 3 2012, 03:35 PM)
What are the pro and con bewteen Pruhealth and PRUflexi Med? Still didnt seem much differ and Pruhealth got NCB which look better
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Its depend on individual actually . . . some prefer fleximed because of 0 co-insurance
some like you prefer PruHealth because of NCB, it caters for different market


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Added on April 18, 2012, 12:15 pm
QUOTE(Jeffery WL @ Apr 17 2012, 09:57 AM)
need some help from agent here too. i also bad luck to have a very bad agent now want to change agent as well.

im 24 this year, non smoker, male, class 3 paying rm200 every month now

-plan to upgrade my PRUmajor med 4 150(cover untill 70 years old)

to pruhealth 150(cover untill age 80)
or
to pruhealth 100 (cover untill age80) + PRUmedic auto upgrade

upgrade to PruHealth 150 /  PruHealth 200 up to age 80 if you have the budget.
cause the NCB for  PruHealth 200 is RM300


wanted to know that how much that i need to add? and which one cheaper?or u have any better recommend?

-may i know what is weekly indemnity after ready my the policy feel like its dont do much feel like cancel it. Can i do that?

It's MC due to accidental cases & company shall pay you base on how many units purchase / weeks unfit for work.


-recently brought a house rm500k so wanted to buy house loan insurance this agent quote me feel wired that how come the money that i can take back after 16 years for example the saving that i can take back will be getting lesser and lesser every year? Ask the agent he cant answer me? he said that because the premium will increase will i getting old that why after 16 years i get back less?? if like that at year 16 i better draw all the money out from the saving part right? keep inside there end up getting less money in the end. am i right? correct me if im wrong?

its because the plan is a morgage plan for your housing loan.  . . . . each year your housing loan will reduce & so will the sum assured.
Well you could purchase a term life or MLTA for your housing loan . . . pm me if you wish to know more  thumbup.gif


if lets say i pass away at age 80 or 90 due to natural causes not because of 36ci or accident will my kids get the rm500k?
If you purchase a life plan YES . . . . . if you purchase a morgage or term NO, because as when you reach age 80 your plan
is already matured

 
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QUOTE(ks98 @ Jun 21 2012, 12:36 PM)
I'm looking for a life insurance with critical illness coverage, not too particular on the saving/investment. What i want is only coverage.

Monthly premium should <RM300. Age is 37, non-smoker, male. How much coverage would I get?
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If based on your information & monthly RM300 premium:

You can be covered for RM300,000 for Life & CS icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

or RM220,000 for life insurance & RM220,000 Critical Illnesses thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ks98 @ Jun 21 2012, 01:44 PM)
Thanks for your reply.

I understand Life part, what is CS meant?

if I want 300k life & Critical illness, how much is the premium?
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CS means include life or critical Illnesses . . . claim from either 1 event only.
At RM400/monthly for 300k life & 300k Critical illness. icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(KyoX @ Jul 6 2012, 01:33 PM)
does medical card can buy as stand alone?
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for Pru you need to attached to an investment link or traditional policy
some company do sell standalone med card
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jul 28 2012, 12:13 PM)
the pru flexi medical card, can attached with PRUedusaver? how?
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The pru Fleximed is attached to an investmenk-link acc (Pru Mychild)
Whereby pruedusaver is to increase the saving from purchasing regularly in our Prulink funds. It can be done easily, just consult ur servicing agent.
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jul 28 2012, 01:18 PM)
the education fund is it under pruedusaver? how to calculate for commitment? Any package sample (pruflexi+education fund)?
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Yes, you may choose your prefered Prulink funds as well.
Simple pruflexi med for kids is around RM100/monthly which cover the basic
life, critical illnesses, medical card & PA.

The amount of Pru edusaver is up to individual, additional of RM50, RM100, RM300, or up to a max of RM1K / monthly.

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jul 29 2012, 08:06 AM)
how to determine monthly commitment for edusaver? Is it based on accumulation target after certain years? Let say i wanted 100k after 17 years for my 1yr old child. Conservatively how much should i put in the edusaver monthly?
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aprox additional RM250-RM300/monthly into edusaver will generate RM100K after 17 years
It's base to accumulation
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jul 31 2012, 01:59 PM)
Thanks mr roy and colaboy..

Let say i want pruflexi card which come with any education fund. My requirement as follows:

pruflexi - RB = 400, Annual = 100k, hosp benefit rm300/day
Edu fund - after 17 years can give around 100k

So how's the monthly commitment looks like. I dont want life, CI, TPD, PA coverage included.
Thanks in advance..
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Insurance is RM150/monthly + Education fund RM250/monthly
Total of RM400 per month will have the above benefit . . . but do take note with
R&B RM400, you cant include extra hosp benefit rider. thumbup.gif


QUOTE(vinvon23 @ Aug 1 2012, 01:59 PM)
Im still very confuse with the CI and Life.. some told me if claim CI then cant claim if death, some say yes, if claimed CI still can claim if death...

Actually both is correct, it's depends on what rider the agent quoted for you & how does it best suite the client.

Life insurance covers ==> Death & TPD
Crisis Shield ==> 36 Critical Illnesses but once claim will reduce the basic sum insured (life insurance)
Crisis Shield Plus ==> Is not attached to life insurance, can claim CI follow by life insurance if death
Crisis Defender ==> Same with CSP, but covers up to age 70 / 80 only (much cheaper) while CSP covers up to age 100           
                             


Whats the major difference between PRU Health and PRU flexi??

Refer to my earlier post for Fleximed details , in short PRU Health have 10X life time limit, 10% co-insurance
(RM300-RM1Kmax) No Claim bonus


some quote me ~250-300 for only 50k sum assured plus med card... some quote me same price for 30k CI and 60k death benefit...

Please enlighten me...

Just want to know with 250 is it possible to get med card plus 100k coverage...

Depending ur age & also occupation of course, but if age 30 below 100K coverage is no problem
*bare in mind with huge coverage the cash value will be low


Another Q is, is it better to uograde the policy fr 100k to 200k or buy a separate CI & Life with another policy of 100k...
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Personal point of view separate will be better, to have a main plan for all the basic coverage like life, 36CI, PA & med card.
On top of that another with life & CI only (no other rider needed to be attach like payor or hospital allowance)



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