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RickOoi
post Aug 4 2012, 02:51 PM

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Hi Tomjason Sifu,

I have been following your thread and noted you are very experienced in renovation stuffs. Appreciate it if you can please help to advice on below. Thank you.

My house is only 18 x 65 sq.ft. (I think) double story terrace with 10 feet land beside.

1) 1st photo - if I extend the back, how do I deal with the manhole (not sure what to call it? Sewage coverage?)? If contractor cover it up or cement it, will there be any problem later like maybe Indah Water want to access it to drain 'shits' from it?

2) 2nd photo - if I extend the back to double-story and side single-story (just the back), may I know roughly how much if I buy all the materials (I don't know the measurements)?

3) 2nd photo - if I deepen the drains (to have a better drainage) and use stone cover to cover them up, will it be very costly?

4) 2nd photo - the fence, I think is only 5 feet (standard allowed?), can I add maybe wooden planks on top of it to make it higher? Is that even allowed?

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post Aug 4 2012, 05:51 PM

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Hi Tomjason,

Could you PM me your formula too? I am about to start my interior renovation for my new house. TQ biggrin.gif


Opps sorry just went through the posts and noticed that you won't give out the formula anymore.

Anyway, are you willing to give any comments regarding interior renovation?

Thanks.

This post has been edited by Kristen: Aug 5 2012, 01:05 AM
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Hi Tomjason, i'll be having my key to my new house very soon , please share on your formula as i'm scratching my head on the budget for moving in...thanks in advance.
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post Aug 4 2012, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(tomjason @ Jul 30 2012, 04:16 PM)
hi bro,

sorry late reply..did not notice..

to remove pillar, cannot simply remove pillar dangerous must study the situation first..if possible..can upload pic..to see the situation..

TQ


Added on July 30, 2012, 4:28 pm

2) Break 1 wall at downstair room for kitchen extension (6ft x 9ft)
Ans: EC , 2 indon worker (RM180) , job one day, max 2 days, so total RM=180. Main contractor will mark up the price for untung.

3) Labour cost for retile, need to remove all the old tiles (downstair ground floor 20ft*65ft (all the land area), upstair ground floor (32ft x 20ft), tiles buy by myself.
Ans: EC, 20x65 ft. COst to remove = RM2,600. EC for retile (cost upah&cement etc ) tile owner buy RM=5200-RM6000.


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hey tomjason

2) how do we get contacts for indon workers? I may have few walls to break down smile.gif

3) in your opinion, do you think its advisable if we consider to do the tile removal ourselves? been researching a lot on tutorials on youtube. seems fairly straightforward to get it remove.

Cheers smile.gif
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post Aug 6 2012, 06:25 PM

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Bro, pm me the formula too, goin to start on my own renovation. Would like to know about the pricing, scared got ripped off
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hi.. PM me too.. tq...
will get my house key in 4 months...


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post Aug 7 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(RickOoi @ Aug 4 2012, 02:51 PM)
Hi Tomjason Sifu,

I have been following your thread and noted you are very experienced in renovation stuffs.  Appreciate it if you can please help to advice on below. Thank you.

My house is only 18 x 65 sq.ft. (I think) double story terrace with 10 feet land beside.

1) 1st photo - if I extend the back, how do I deal with the manhole (not sure what to call it? Sewage coverage?)? If contractor cover it up or cement it, will there be any problem later like maybe Indah Water want to access it to drain 'shits' from it?

2) 2nd photo - if I extend the back to double-story and side single-story (just the back), may I know roughly how much if I buy all the materials (I don't know the measurements)?

3) 2nd photo - if I deepen the drains (to have a better drainage) and use stone cover to cover them up, will it be very costly?

4) 2nd photo - the fence, I think is only 5 feet (standard allowed?), can I add maybe wooden planks on top of it to make it higher? Is that even allowed?

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Hi bro,

TQ... biggrin.gif

First of all, i would like to inform that the cement price has gone up to 10%..... flex.gif ...this also will effect the reno price...



Below is my comment:

1) 1st photo - if I extend the back, how do I deal with the manhole (not sure what to call it? Sewage coverage?)? If contractor cover it up or cement it, will there be any problem later like maybe Indah Water want to access it to drain 'shits' from it?

Ans: you can use aluminium frame (for man hole, top can fill tile) to the replace the old steel frame man hole. DO NOT BUY steel frame as it rusted. The aluminium frame cost is about RM25 if i can remember, my house main holes all use these type (if you wan to put tile on in).

2) 2nd photo - if I extend the back to double-story and side single-story (just the back), may I know roughly how much if I buy all the materials (I don't know the measurements)?

Ans; i would assume you wan to do reno about 18x5 ft. Cost complete all (normal tile) about RM11K. If material only about RM5-RM6K.

3) 2nd photo - if I deepen the drains (to have a better drainage) and use stone cover to cover them up, will it be very costly?
Ans: why you want to deepen the drains. When reno time move the drains to under ground drains using 6 inches under ground PVC bigger than your existing drains.

4) 2nd photo - the fence, I think is only 5 feet (standard allowed?), can I add maybe wooden planks on top of it to make it higher? Is that even allowed?
Ans: First of all, who make the wall fence?...if you..than no problem just add it and before that tell your neighbour first. If you neighbour make the fence than you must discuss with them.


Added on August 7, 2012, 12:50 pm
QUOTE(Kristen @ Aug 4 2012, 05:51 PM)
Hi Tomjason,

Could you PM me your formula too? I am about to start my interior renovation for my new house. TQ  biggrin.gif
Opps sorry just went through the posts and noticed that you won't give out the formula anymore.

Anyway, are you willing to give any comments regarding interior renovation?

Thanks.
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Hi bro,


no problem..i will..i will help what ever i know.


Added on August 7, 2012, 12:52 pm
QUOTE(aliluya @ Aug 4 2012, 06:37 PM)
Hi Tomjason, i'll be having my key to my new house very soon , please share on your formula as i'm scratching my head on the budget for moving in...thanks in advance.
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Hi bro,

To all , i hv stop giving formula as there are too many claim to be 'contractor' make advantages of it.Instead inform me what reno you want to do.


Added on August 7, 2012, 12:54 pm
QUOTE(wanchenghuat @ Aug 4 2012, 10:03 PM)
hey tomjason

2) how do we get contacts for indon workers? I may have few walls to break down smile.gif

3) in your opinion, do you think its advisable if we consider to do the tile removal ourselves? been researching a lot on tutorials on youtube. seems fairly straightforward to get it remove.

Cheers smile.gif
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hi bro,


there are abandunt of indon in malaysia millions of them doing reno biggrin.gif ...but you choice skill indon worker...if you want ti can recommend to you...

3) in your opinion, do you think its advisable if we consider to do the tile removal ourselves? been researching a lot on tutorials on youtube. seems fairly straightforward to get it remove.
Ans: yes no problem..can save you money..just buy rotary hammer or demolition hammer..good brand is Makita or bosch. You can use the tools when you want to DIY or to reno yourself.

This post has been edited by tomjason: Aug 7 2012, 01:33 PM
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post Aug 7 2012, 01:06 PM

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Added on August 7, 2012, 12:54 pm
hi bro,
there are abandunt of indon in malaysia millions of them doing reno  biggrin.gif ...but you choice skill indon worker...if you want ti can recommend to you...

3) in your opinion, do you think its advisable if we consider to do the tile removal ourselves? been researching a lot on tutorials on youtube. seems fairly straightforward to get it remove.
Ans: yes no problem..can save you money..just buy rotary hammer or demolition hammer..good brand is Makita or bosch. You can use the tools when you want to DIY or to reno yourself.
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do pm me your recommendation smile.gif

For the tiles removal, I might just do it myself smile.gif I have those tools ready and I have the time lolz..

probably will record it down to share it when work starts..
now need to wait for handover ~
thanks again bro, you doing great help here.. we all should belanja you one nice makan session for all your sharings..
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post Aug 7 2012, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(wanchenghuat @ Aug 7 2012, 01:06 PM)
do pm me your recommendation smile.gif

For the tiles removal, I might just do it myself smile.gif I have those tools ready and I have the time lolz..

probably will record it down to share it when work starts..
now need to wait for handover ~
thanks again bro, you doing great help here.. we all should belanja you one nice makan session for all your sharings..
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TQ bro rclxms.gif


actually i want to stop giving advised is lowyat since busy lately and also there many sifu2 in lowyat can give advised... smile.gif

i can recommend to you the indon but need to know major reno or minor?....you can PM me...


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if you laying under ground water pipe on the ground..advisable to encapsulate your water pipe with UPVC (white) size 2 inches or GI pipe inches (this is expensive a bit).....these will help protect your pipe or being leaking but accident cut or dig...

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RickOoi
post Aug 7 2012, 01:30 PM

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Hi Tomjason,

Thank you very much for your answers.

I have some more questions:

1) I wish to clarify, you mentioned that extension 18x5 ft, cost complete all (normal tile) about RM11K. Is the cost for single storey or double storey? I want to extend the back to double storey 18 x 5 ft plus additional single story at the side 10 x 5 ft.

2) Referring to photo below, may I know roughly how much to demolish existing staircase and build a concrete staircase with a storeroom underneath following the flow of existing staircase?

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This post has been edited by RickOoi: Aug 7 2012, 02:53 PM
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post Aug 7 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(RickOoi @ Aug 7 2012, 01:30 PM)
Hi Tomjason,

Thank you very much for your answers.

I wish to clarify, you mentioned that extension 18x5 ft, cost complete all (normal tile) about RM11K. Is this cost for single storey or double storey?  Actually, I want to extend the back to double storey 18 x 5 ft , with additional single story at the side 10 x 5 ft.
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Ok..if double storey you multiply 2 with the figure...

for single storey 10x5 ft..estimated cost RM6K.


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Thanks again Tomjason. rclxms.gif

How about the staircase, roughly how much re-doing the whole thing with storeroom underneath it?

In terms of cost, which is cheaper? To build a straight staircase, or this kind of 2-way staircase?

This post has been edited by RickOoi: Aug 7 2012, 05:06 PM
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post Aug 8 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(RickOoi @ Aug 7 2012, 05:05 PM)
Thanks again Tomjason.  rclxms.gif

How about the staircase, roughly how much re-doing the whole thing with storeroom underneath it?

In terms of cost, which is cheaper? To build a straight staircase, or this kind of 2-way staircase?
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of course straight staircase is cheaper..

below is show the calculation for your staircase:

Labor work : total need estimated 30 'Kong' (one Kong RM80) = RM 2400
Material Rebar bar Y12 BS (if you want cheaper use CQ) 9 pieces = 9xRM28=RM252
Cement 14 bags : RM18x14=RM252
Sand kasar (3 ton lorry buy per 3 or 10 ton lorry much cheaper compare buy scoop) = RM190
Sand halus (for plaster ) = RM 190
Concrete stone RM190
red brick (for store under teh staircase) : 80 bricks = RM0.45x80 = RM36.

Estimated total cost = RM 3510. If you hire main contractor sure they will mark up about 30%-40% price.

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Thank you so much! thumbup.gif
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[quote=Chuahks2001,Jul 11 2012, 11:55 AM]
Hi Bro,

for red brick wall fence 65x2.5 , Cost is RM1500 and the for the grill RM1950.

TQ


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Hi Sifu there,

I asked around few contractors but no one is willing to build my fence even at RM 4,000 cry.gif

Please PM me if you can do it.

TQ
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[quote=Chuahks2001,Aug 8 2012, 06:11 PM]
[quote=Chuahks2001,Jul 11 2012, 11:55 AM]
Hi Bro,

for red brick wall fence 65x2.5 , Cost is RM1500 and the for the grill RM1950.

TQ
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Hi Sifu there,

I asked around few contractors but no one is willing to build my fence even at RM 4,000 cry.gif

Please PM me if you can do it.

TQ
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What kind of fencing are u doing? Need footing and foundation. You need to specify how large of a footing do u want n how far of a distance from pile to pile.. But contractor can determine all these for u, just make sure he don't quote u cheap and do a small footing with minimal wood pile.

Is it an intermediate or corner or end lot? How long is the longest wall?
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[quote=RickOoi,Aug 8 2012, 03:44 PM]Thank you so much!  thumbup.gif
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from my calculation i purposely estimated the 'kong' extra 5 kong and extra 4 bags of cement..just in case...also i forgot to calculate the 'papan lapis' and kayu kochai..for stair moulding/shape....about RM300...



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Added on August 9, 2012, 7:51 am[quote=Chuahks2001,Aug 8 2012, 05:11 PM]
[quote=Chuahks2001,Jul 11 2012, 11:55 AM]
Hi Bro,

for red brick wall fence 65x2.5 , Cost is RM1500 and the for the grill RM1950.

TQ
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Hi Sifu there,

I asked around few contractors but no one is willing to build my fence even at RM 4,000 cry.gif

Please PM me if you can do it.

TQ
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do have any pic...??...there is reason why the contractor do not want to do...

This post has been edited by tomjason: Aug 9 2012, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(tomjason @ Aug 9 2012, 08:49 AM)
from my calculation i purposely estimated the 'kong' extra 5 kong and extra 4 bags of cement..just in case...also i forgot to calculate the 'papan lapis' and kayu kochai..for stair moulding/shape....about RM300...
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Added on August 9, 2012, 7:51 am
do have any pic...??...there is reason why the contractor do not want to do...
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Hi Bro Tomjason,

These people want to do but quoted >RM10,000! They will build post with 14' deep concrete base, every 10' with one post and I insist them to put layer of net mesh stripe every 6 layer of brick. cry.gif


Added on August 9, 2012, 11:09 am
QUOTE(Chuahks2001 @ Aug 9 2012, 12:08 PM)
Hi Bro Tomjason,

These people want to do but quoted >RM10,000! They will build post with 14' deep concrete base, every 10' with one post and I insist them to put layer of net mesh stripe every 6 layer of brick. cry.gif
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Sorry, the post with 14" deep concrete base, not 14'

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QUOTE(Chuahks2001 @ Aug 9 2012, 11:08 AM)
Hi Bro Tomjason,

These people want to do but quoted >RM10,000! They will build post with 14' deep concrete base, every 10' with one post and I insist them to put layer of net mesh stripe every 6 layer of brick. cry.gif


Added on August 9, 2012, 11:09 am

Sorry, the post with 14" deep concrete base, not 14'
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wauuu...RM10,000 too much.....

if you really want to do the fence and want to get quotation i can recommend indon contractor much cheaper..if you want.


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