QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 1 2012, 10:10 PM)
Yeah, still the Avanza only got 3 stars.

I doubt Toyota has modified it throughoutly for the facelift, otherwise they should have advertised it.
People need to get off that thinking that Proton for sure must be milo tin... they should bring the car to Europe, just to make EuroNCAP test it. And sell it exactly same spec there as here. Then advertise that (and stress that EuroNCAP picks a random car, so no specially prepared one).
The Lotus L3 should be a regular Gen-2, huh? They just changed the name cause Lotus sounds better than Proton. No copy.
And 2 Chinese cars have recently received 4 stars in EuroNCAP. Not too bad for a copy... I think some Chinese manufacturers are working hard on creating more unique cars, that are actually decent. Of course they aren't as cheap as those created in some shed... but just look at handphones. Of course there are hundreds of crappy iPhone fakes etc. from Shenzen, but there is also Meizu and Xiaomi (besides Lenovo, Huawei, ZTE who make legit phones), and both the Meizu and Xiaomi phones seem to be pretty good and high end, using high quality components. Of course they come at a price though, but still cheaper than the established companies. Korean manufacturers (cars and consumer electronics) have went through the same process, and now produce rather decent cars and devices.
cuz it was influenced last time during TM's era that it is using milo tin...very weak
since saga...all changed to using HTS....can see from the weight as well...its not what ppl call light
but 140KM/H on highway is like no feeling at all
i think if they keep producing cars like these....ppl's view toward proton will change...providing DSZ is still CEO and TM dn't mcm2 sana
what proton left now is the engine only...ppl are waiting for a alittle bit more reliable car = timing chain
not sure abt the lotus L3 though...i think its a rebadge
many is still copy exterior only...like those in top gear...outlook very nice, look like camry
but since inside...ride is bumpy as hell(not very well structured)..i think if crush it,its a done deal as well
china market, very easy.....big car, lots of space inside, well equipped interior/nice interior and most important...CHEAP...thn it will sell
they dn't care abt safety features(which will make it more expensive)