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 Full P3-21A Specs and Info!

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MR_alien
post Feb 20 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 20 2012, 02:48 PM)
i think thats the director in the photo? lol
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nope..if u know how to stalk FB...you'll know where there pic came from
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post Feb 20 2012, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(adachi7 @ Feb 20 2012, 04:15 PM)
sorry... just... had.... to....

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u should put it in some jeremy lin's basketball match...that would be great
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post Feb 21 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 21 2012, 11:47 AM)
can u read the engine capacity??  it is 6.1....   thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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6.1L V12 = ferrari/aventador engine inside tongue.gif


Added on February 21, 2012, 12:39 pm
QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 09:20 AM)
CVT, might not be a good idea to further boost the power.

they should give manual.....but, thats too dangerous, lol.
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haha
manual would unleash the true full power of the CFE brows.gif (cuz the CVT is limiting its torque)
but even the saga FLX's manual came late and not a handful buy it as well
this p3-21a...not sure will be manual or not...or they're searching for a suitable ones

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post Feb 21 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Feb 21 2012, 01:14 PM)
theyre goind for getrag 6 speed manual for the hatchback p3-22a.. and the engine will be uprated to 150hp from the rumours la coz the manual gb can take alot more torque than the poor cvt
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the CVT can but have to use other model
like saga..using VT2...this one using VT3
want more torque from CFE using CVT thn have to use different model...mean more expensive
manual surely can unleash full torque...mean not 208nm
but 208nm is very fast already...around the region of navara

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post Feb 21 2012, 03:27 PM

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CVT no FE in high speed?
CVT cruise high speed at a way lower RPM = low fuel consumption @ high speed
somemore they put "-"(worse) on it..lol

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post Feb 21 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 03:39 PM)
i think it means skyactive lost to cvt at FE highspeed, so -

if they win they put +
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nope
u can see the 4th column...they put all +..mean they will all
the 3 1st column is suppose to be the advantage of the GB
they put - on the FE during high speed mean lose/worse
how can..lol
they dn't even want to put "o"(average)
pretty much they're lying(they thought ppl dn't know).lol
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post Feb 21 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 03:44 PM)
er.....CVT 3000rpm at 150km/h wor.....

they can win this?
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ask skyactiv lo.hahaha
maybe their auto GB can do 200KM/H @ 2k RPM with real gear somemore
i wonder how many gear did their GB have...10?..if over 6 thn maybe can win
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post Feb 21 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(nakTT @ Feb 21 2012, 04:41 PM)
What car?
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of course inspira
but saga and exora is also same
but inspira cruise @ a even lower RPM compare to saga/exora
120KM/H @ 2-2.1K RPM only...saga is 2.5k RPM
so its impossible its "-"(worse) in FE in high speed
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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 21 2012, 05:41 PM)
Saga FLX 120kmh at around 2.8k.

2.5k is 100kmh only.
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checked..yes ...2.5k for 100KM/H
but inspira's CVT can do 2-2.1k @ 120KM/H


Added on February 21, 2012, 5:48 pm
QUOTE(chronous @ Feb 21 2012, 05:41 PM)
As long as not Proton 1 Malaysia, everything else sounds good to me.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i think what matters now is are they going for 2 names(1 for local, another for foreign) or just 1 name
if 1 name thn better be good tongue.gif

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post Feb 21 2012, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jazz6218 @ Feb 21 2012, 07:28 PM)
y proton dun hav any high end car...
last time i tok inspira 90k is suppose to be the high end,nice spec and engine etc,
but somehow ppl tat can afford 90k car,will tend to avoid it,due to copy thing,
proton is not realli tat bad,wide spare part source,low tax,sc everywhere,resale value is not bad...but it juz lack of higher end car...

tis p321a got all de potential to become the high end,
plz dun make the baseline too cheap...put the price higher pls,make it exclusive and higher end,and use the extra money for better QC and nice accessories
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proton WON'T produce high end car
cuz there is many alternatives for that
proton's aim is low income and middle income ppl only...less competitor
high end car many alternative like for example if i got money, i would have gone for BMW, merc, toyota camry, volkswagen, high end nissan, porsche, etc etc
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post Feb 21 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(lightonokira @ Feb 21 2012, 07:37 PM)
WON'T is not the proper term, they are trying out slowly from what I can see. -,-
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they "may" will release but not with this engine
wait till they release a new engine in 2015...else proton won't even think abt it
cuz their target market is pretty clear
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post Feb 21 2012, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Jazz6218 @ Feb 21 2012, 07:37 PM)
ya,but for most of the conti cars,we have to suffer the low resale value...and hard to find spare part etc
and for the toyota n honda,the car is simply overrated,kededut on accessories etc
proton on de other hand, doesnt need to pay import tax... so they can offer much better spec,wif cheaper price,n not bad resale value
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ppl buy conti car because it has power, its fun to drive..it has great handling
proton is trying to copy that
but the thing is conti cars aren't very reliable because of its POWAH
thats why when proton turbocharged the engine, they kinda limit the power to ensure durability and reliability of the engine
handling is great as it got lotus handling
T&H in other hand...they're playing it too safe in the local market
they have competing car..but those car are only for japanese market and US
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post Feb 22 2012, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:32 PM)
sigh, tuah tail light shld be use, some savings cannot be save, u must invest to get better returns, some more proton want to market this as international standard car.

they need better mgmt.
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if add up become 100k u will still buy?
plus...tuah's tail light doesn't make sense
most "reality" taillight u see is on the side(left and right)
tuah's tail light is at the middle(the boot there)
in reality, most u see is tail light is at the side...at abit at the boot there is the reflector
tuah's tail light is from the left across to the right...like a bridge
and its black all over..where's the signal..lol
how much to replace it?...how difficult is it to replace it?
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post Feb 22 2012, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Feb 22 2012, 09:29 AM)
huh, so expensive to add up to 100k? lol, you have the costing info for that tail light?

its just transparent plastic with LED lighting, different sets of LED for signal, brake and reverse signal.

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as cool as BMW is...as expensive as BMW is
their design still remain like this
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side tail light with the ones attached to the boot is the reflector/reverse light
if its so cheap/so easy to produce...thn u better apply a position in proton and we'll wait for u to do your magic
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post Feb 22 2012, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 22 2012, 12:56 PM)
Those lamps...dunno how many thousand bucks apiece...
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if its like u said...these kind of side tail light also cost thousand bucks a piece
imagine proton do it like a bridge ...across from left to the right....labour for changing it already expensive
plus..no one know the proton one can last how long
tuah's one look like LED stripe...those are famous not for durability

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post Feb 22 2012, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(siaokialeong @ Feb 22 2012, 03:13 PM)
hi bro mat...any idea / clue about this car ?
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look at the shape
look more like a hatchback/MPV

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post Feb 22 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(siaokialeong @ Feb 22 2012, 03:21 PM)
lolx..look like a savvy.. -.-!!! R3 version?
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savvy has been dumped/discontinued
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post Feb 23 2012, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 23 2012, 03:54 PM)
Are we quite done with the comparison between the Tuah concept car and the production car P3-21A ?? doh.gif  doh.gif
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ppl are UNSATISFIED with what they see or what they're gonna get for 70k
they want 300k design @ 70k price tag
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post Feb 23 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 23 2012, 09:24 PM)
That's why BMW 1 series can never sell well in our country compare to other car that has similar price to it. I see more Polo compare to 1 series which is really rare.

Nissan has quite a reputable for it's quietness quality and good reputation as car manufacturer, and how come their slyphy and latio is so bad in terms of sales and compare to civic and city? Back to design again.

I really hope Proton to make more up to date design car if the company wants to make it big to the entire world like kia and hyundai rather than selling to only us majority malaysian that has no choice or force to buy cause of the protection given to them.
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this has a really simple explanation
yes...nissan produce great car but the thing is nissan in malaysia isn't run by nissan
thats why their aftersales sark big time
thats why less ppl buy nissan even if its a good car
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post Feb 25 2012, 12:10 PM

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seeing u guys photochopped
i think proton is leaving those nice ones to FL?
cuz proton is gonna facelift it twice within the 5 years lifespan of p3-21a
thats why the original design is like that

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