Hi all,

Thought of opening a thread about WC...

Has anyone used Johnson Suisse Como before? Price look really affordable...

main concerns are :-

1) is the flush powerful enough?
2) looking for one that has very little chance of getting stucked



Do share your toilet "bowls" and photos

This post has been edited by coconutzz: Feb 14 2012, 08:46 AM

Have used Johnson Suisse WC and find that their flush down function is not that strong. Usually you'll have to flush twice. This makes having a pump vital as you don't want to wait too long to flush again.

Premtex WC flush down function doesn't look that strong either but will have to actually try before I can give a more accurate feedback.

Try not to get the syphonic system as its usually not as good as flush down. And you literally don't want to see crap swirling around in the event of blockage.

Thanks...oh , I have never considered Symphonic...cos they are crap really.....Just need a great powerful flush like those good old days wc

are Orin wc ok?

or the cheap ones, Inno ok?

There are basically 2 types:

wash-down - water gush down from the cistern by gravity
- greater force but noisy
syphonic - wash drawn into wc by suction
- less force but quiet
Then, there is the push-button and the level handle. The former has more problems.

To save water, there is the dual-flush system where you have a choice between a full-flush and a half-flush to save water.

There are pros and cons, it's a matter of individual preference.

Syphonic usually use in place where noise level is concern. Like Hotel.

Dual flush system, my previous experience it get jam / faulty faster because more mechanism inside. Hope the newer and modern version solve the problem.

Don't get the China unknown brand. Do you know in China they don't throw toilet paper inside WC. And in Malaysian and many place usually throw toilet paper inside WC. This sometime cause the China made WC to overflow and clog.

sometimes you have no choice. i suggest you remove the current one and see what kind of measurement it is. Some are offset. Then you go shopping for the right one that will fit your existing lobang

BTW I like to tumpang ask this WC question - if I want to totally remove one (in a condo enviroment) is there a professional & safe way to seal off the pipe on the floor? I dont want any overflow later on to come back up once I cement and tiled it. Is there like a end cap that will fit the pipe?

Yea weikee..its disgusting..they throw toilet paper laced with "chocolate" into the waste paper basket next to them...

so imagine, when you using the toilet..u see the waste paper basket...with chocolate..yucks!


btw your Lago ok?

This post has been edited by coconutzz: Feb 14 2012, 11:54 AM

Ah, I don't know which one is which. I have 2 difference model of JS. One model 2 units on the first floor, another cheaper model on the ground floor.

The ground floor model, I got to press longer for longer flush. If just press one second, it will do small flush.

So far all JS running ok. I am not running public toilet so OK lah.

Some models have small cistern and are designed to save water, so the flush is not VERY POWERFUL. Unless u throw a lot tissue, it will need to flush 2 times to clear everything. Otherwise, one time is enough d.

If u wan powerful flush, i would recommend u to get Johnson Suisse Ancona or Como.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Feb 15 2012, 01:34 AM

Como is powerful?

yea Zein ..if Como is good...i will likely get como...see u soon...my renov will be starting soon...almost finalising everything with contractors...

orin not so expensive nor cheap, good finishing compare to those no brand china made but don't buy the Syphonic one, wash down is good.

Orin is China made. Not sure about quality.

Imagine you have a wash-down w.c. and you go to the toilet to use it in the middle of the night while your partner is sleeping. The noise can be a bother.
For home use, you don't need the flush to be so powerful, unless your 'chocolate' is so sticky that it's difficult to wash off.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Feb 15 2012, 12:32 PM

If "chocolate" sticky or big...use a pail of water...pour the water while flushing..sure boleh! unless..ur chocolate is Rock Solid
hahaha

My new house is installed with 3 units of JS Como. So far so good. No problem in flushing.
And it's good for small toilet due to it's size.

partner no wake up but the baby wake up...

Actually, there was only the wash-down system in the old days.
Then the syphonic system came in to the market due to demand for a quieter flushing system.

i jus came back from taiwan, lots of hotels using syphonic system.

my old man's house got 4 units of orin, the quality i can say above average, the flush mechanism still good after 5 years


between your room & toilet no door?? i use wash down w.c in my room but hardly hear any sound when my wify flush the toilet

Anyone used "Cotto" brand w.c.?

It is a Japanese-Thai company (related to the famous' Toto' brand) but made in Thailand.

The fittings are quite stylish.

maybe yr wall is thick or ... what brand/model of WC u have? u sure she got flush or not..

solid door/ hollow flush door/ pvc folding door......will have big difference in sound proofing, wall std one lar, 5-6" thk.......american std TF2003, your last Q

Agree with you. Nowadays saving water is all the rage. B
ut apply to WC is all wrong. I want strong flush, to hell with water savings.

Save water, but need to flush twice. That even used up more water.

Especially when eat too much fiber, the poo is floating very hard to flush away.

I carry American Standard and Grohe. Let me know if any of you wants anything. A very good and competitive price can be given. Please visit our showroom for more info. Do visit our website at http://www.wasserwerkz.com/ Thank you.

This post has been edited by MrBuBu: Apr 18 2012, 05:32 PM

Can PM me the price of american std TF2003?

I use Toto bathroom fittings (except faucet and shower, Hansgrohe) and very happy with it.

Toto Very High End..

Cotto is supposed to be based Toto design but is more affordable. Wonder whether quality is there.

Which shop are you from and PM me the type of discounts? I've got a friend who's planning to get Duravit and Grohe items.

Get my JS Como and JS Lago from Zheilwane today

Lesson learn today, Lago can't fit into Waja, unless open the box

Anyway I do think JS Windsor seat are more comfortable compare to Como anyway

This post has been edited by amirsubhi: Apr 9 2012, 10:36 PM

Lol, i learn it also today Strange, it fit in most sedan cars without throwing the box away.

Thanks for getting the Johnson Suisse W.C from me for the 2nd time . LAGO will b more comfortable than Windsor

looks like most of the hardware shop is having sales now. there are many brand of 1 piece WC selling at around RM450 now, which are much more cheaper than JS 1 piece WC. should be local or china made, quality wise don't know lah.
Toto and American Standard most expensive, JS sits at the middle.

can anyone tell me about JS Luton? Is it ok in terms of the flush/durable? Find it can only afford this rather low price of JS WC

We are clearing stock for some 1 Piece W.C for RM 350-RM 390 but the colour is ivory, sky blue, pink, green and etc. White sold out

Hey guys. anyone know what the mini WC thingy is for ah?
Usually see in european magazines and displayed at higher end sanitary products showroon.


This post has been edited by phoenix69: Apr 16 2012, 05:10 PM

aiya, too late cause white is my first choice, anyway will pay your shop a 2nd visit, for basin and taps.

Luton is the most economical wc can find in the line of JS models..I'm using one and would say its worth every penny...good finishing , looks sleek and flushing works very efficiently....



This post has been edited by siva_four: Apr 18 2012, 12:58 AM

I carry American Standard and Grohe. Let me know if any of you wants anything. A very good and competitive price can be given. Please visit our showroom for more info. Do visit our website at http://www.wasserwerkz.com/ Thank you.

for washing the pet2 ?

Sure ah

Yes it's for washing the bump after taking a dump. Now we have something called the 'Smart Washer', where u fix it on the toilet seat. Has 2 functions...for the bump and female's private.

hello, the actual problem is water level......u need to adjust the water level more than the standard level, at the same time, pull out the filter and the overflow pipe hv to make it higher.....

has anyone tried concealed cistern??

is it harder to maintain?? pros/cons??

I have been using inax for 13 years (direct from developer) and so far, never had any issue with the floats nor stuck toilet.

It's good old direct flush.

My parent home which just renovate, those fancy looking flush is so weak and u can still see your dump floating after one flush. Crap !!! Need to flush multiple times.

You/the plumber need to have access to the cistern for maintenance all the time.

Concealed cistern is used in big buildings where there is a plumbing duct (for cistern, pipings, etc) which is through a separate door like a room. Not for a house.

I just drop by to Builders Hardware yesterday (Thursday) on my way back to hometown after seminar.. getting watercloset and basins.. before that I already drop by at one of the famous hardware centre in Puchong Utama.. but in terms of pricing, service and so on.. BH wins that all..

However I'm upset.. because I can't buy everything I need at BH.. my car too small.. and for sure I will come again.. and I'm not sure whether there is already person like me before because I'm not staying in Klang Valley.. I'm from East Coast... Kelantan..

I will recommended BH for my friends..

For kids?

For Johnson Suisse, if the flush mechanism rosak, where to buy?

anyone now using INNO, and Orin WC?
Contractor said these 2 brands are at the same par in term of quality and durability with Johnson Suisse but cheaper price.
Is it true?

JS washdown seems pretty weak lately..maybe its my house location water pressure not so strong...i think claytan washdown quite strong..hehe

my new house using INNO WC..look simple and cheap ..not sure durable or not..caused not move in yet.

Guys heard of Bravat?

For those of you looking for Johnson Suisse sink (square and round available) and toilet bowl, I have a set selling cheap (Both for RM300). Buzz me by this week. Condition 9.5/10.


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Hi All,
Need advise.

My inno toilet tank water is leaking into the bowl,
the flush system is center push type,
I dont think I could replace the flapper/valve easily (the plastics looked fragile)

is it possible to replace the water tank only ???

You mean replace the whole water tank include the flush mechanism?

Ain't it more expensive compare a plumber+parts cost?

Hmm isn't it more expensive if it's a 1 piece WC than a coupled WC?

Sorry I m getting confuse here. You mean replace the whole WC?

I mean with one piece WC, it's a whole thing correct? so if cistern leaking or something, it's more expensive than a 2 pc WC?

That depend what kind of leaking. If the whole WC is replace, that is a serious crack leaking. Sure it is more expensive than 2pcs type.

From nomoredfox question, it seems like water is leaking out to the bow from the flush mechanism. So it is probably the rubber seal or anything.

So is he want to replace the whole tank just because the seal flush problem?

If it is the center push type, I think you can just replace the entire plastic flush assembly, if you can find one that fits. Seen a lot of them at big hardware shops. But they are all 'standard' size, if yours is a designer non-standard type, may have to go back to agent to buy.

Just unscrew the whole thing out of the tank, and run around see if someone can sell you one.

Before that, you may want to try this -
Look into the water cistern
right at the bottom of the center flush assembly, where it connects to the bowl, you will see a piece of black rubber washer.
Remove the entire flush assembly, it should be just a twist n pull action needed.
Then clean the piece of rubber washer and fit back the flush assembly.
Usually there is dirt gathered below the washer, causing water to leak into the bowl.

Oic. Best is to get a plumber to take a look easier. Hard to ascertain what's the real issue

Fazab have a good DIY guide to follow. You can read about it.

Actually not really difficult if you're a DIY guy.

Ah, one of these days I shall read it. =D thanks bro

Can i replace WC diy myself? Is it hard to replace?

ok,,,seen all your reply..tqtq

because I tried to find in ACE hardware and some local hardware shop..but no luck.. (I mean the entire flush assembly)
I did saw 1 guy selling in Lelong/Mudah that cost ~Rm50 (not sure if it can fit)
I did call and paid plumber too .. but after few weeks .. same thg again... (they did not change the flush system..just some adjustment)

OK...i try to disassemble the whole flush unit n see

Hi, wanted to know if both the items are brand new? Are they sold already?

Hey guys, wanna check is it possible to relocate the WC position? Living in condo unit..

am finding out information for this too now. anybody can advise?

In condo/apartment you may not be an relocated, cause due to PVC went pipe can't relocated then your Wc cannot move to other place... For that pipe is sharing whole building from roof top to ground... Anyway even buy new toilet bowl also have to measure that distance from wall to S-Pipe of internal center from toilet bowl.

In the market have 2 size only (150mm or 200mm max then the rest need to used adaptor)

Thanks for the respond, appreciate it

The adaptor can help how much? Another 100mm?

I have just done my reno and I bought from Hanlim trading in PJ. cheapest price among a few shops i asked. same unit in jalan ipoh shop (one of the many there) is rm600, hanlim rm400. my advice is go for larger unit, more comfortable to sit, and most likely stronger flush

Bigger size of toilet, does not an issue, some swing door can't fixe and go with bi-fold type.. I think don't have much choice to stick back with smaller size of toilet blow only

guys,

need to ask something.

during renovation time, when the contractor actually change your WC/install a new WC, do you actually allow them to use it since they need to do their business while renovating your house?

If you don't allow, then what do you do? Where are they gonna do their business? I've been pondering on this ever since my renovation started.

Ha ha... Just imaging if they emergency ask them business in plastic bag or somewhere else?

Even mine haven't moving in, but I went there for cleaning of myself also can't tahan and business 1st or rather than finding somewhere P.T too far away

no kidding man. But I don't want them to "open ceremony" my NEW WC before me wor? HOW?! But then again, while they are renovating, surely need to let go once in a while. I can't be getting them a potty right?

I have 2 bathroom. One has started renovating. The other is pending because according to the workers, they need to use it. So once they are done renovating the first bathroom and moving to the 2nd one, surely they'll have to use the 1st one with the newly installed WC. howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww?

1st how long in the during works till completed all?

1 week or 1 month?

How long they can tahan? These is all human... Wow, you control them don't do business at the master bathroom, but you can't control them don't do at the common toilet..

Even you monitor them... But they is human, got makan sure will be cycle out.

Like my case on my master toilet I won't do business at all, most of time going to common one.

In healthy is not good for doing between inside bedroom while someone slept.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Nov 27 2014, 08:55 AM

Must leave one WC for them to use. You can leave the last toilet WC to change. When I did my renovation, my contractor fix the old WC in the ground floor temporary for them to use, when almost done he fix it with the new WC, and they still use it. Treat everyone equal please, if you don't treat them equal they will treat you the other way too.

This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 27 2014, 09:13 AM

That's why this is bothering me. Is not that I don't wanna let them answer their nature call . But I dont know what or how to deal with this. Just felt abit sad cos other people get to use my NEW WC before me Like beating the purpose of installing a new one.

So your suggestion is, when the workers are done renovating my 1st bath, tell them to install the OLD WC first temporary so that they can use it while they are renovating the 2nd bath? Once the 2nd bath is done + NEW WC, they can do their business there since it's a common bathroom?

ps: noticed that guys always kencing meleleh everywhere - hence why I'm not quite happy that this will happen to my new WC

Well, you can "open ceremony" first before they can use. Once they install the new 1.

lol now you're making me sound like a cat/dog marking my territory

Good idea for chop in ceremony open day, b4 they step in

No la. I understand some Chinese really pantang about "new" thing 1.

Another example is the bed mattress. You don't allow somebody sleep on it first when you buy a new 1 right?

Hi there, anybody can advise where to get American Standard Toilet Bowl cover ? Pls advice. Thanks a lot.

Preferable Klang Valley or PJ area. Saw the bar code at the side 4036-WT.

Hey guys, this is an emergency

So my whole toilet bowl felt out today, I was wondering if there are any toilet bowl I can buy in PJ which includes installation? Thank you.

Unless, someone pass you a plumber within your area. Go to local DIY/hardware/bath and kitchen centre and ask them if they have contact for plumbers that are good and trustworthy. That's how I source for plumbing contacts and interview them.

Hi all I would like to know, comparing johnson suisse and inno sericite wc, which is better in terms of price and durability? I am looking for 10" and 12" wc models.
Also, are there any recommended shops in cheras/kajang area selling these wc brands for cheaper price? Or any shops that deliver to cheras/kajang foc?
Thanks a bunch

Dear Sifu

want to change my toilet bowl but scare buy salah type/size

What should I tell the seller in term of size & type of bowl?

You should measure from wall until center of rough down pvc pipe. From ur picture look like 8inch or 200mm wc

This post has been edited by Mohdnorazman: Jan 15 2015, 06:15 PM

if those tiles are 1 x 1 foot then the rough-in hole center should be 300mm from the wall.
the WC that you are going to choose should be 300mm with straight connector or you can have tolerance of +(25-50mm) with an offset connector.
change to those close coupled type WC, imo it's look much nicer than the existing 2 piece type but personally i don't like 1 piece WC. just my personal view.

This post has been edited by quintesson: Jan 15 2015, 11:00 PM

Anyone know where I can get replacement toilet seats?
Quality ones - for Johnson S or Armitage Shanks

go to any sanitary ware shop. They got sell replacement units. Or contact Johnson Suisse directly. Maybe cheaper.
Johnson Suisse website have a list of dealers that carry their wares

Tried JS and dealers - they only sell sets

Sanitary ware shop - cheapo cr@p quality

Oh you want only the seat? try second hand market in LYF
Usually difficult to get. Normally will set the entire set, especially if it is the soft close type.
Try checking Houzdepot and see if they got sell separate.