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Scammer : laialstein, iPhone 4 16g. Lost Rm1k
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 Apr 11 2012, 01:48 PM
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4,419 posts Joined: Mar 2006 From: Where did you see me?  
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QUOTE(justin_5 @ Apr 11 2012, 12:56 PM) hey ichigox... seems kinda weird that ur account is new and have dispute tag... somewhat feels like you are laialstein or whatever... LOL... read post number #15 dulu... he admit already... |
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Apr 11 2012, 02:03 PM
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19 posts Joined: Jul 2010 From: Batcave
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QUOTE(IchigoX @ Apr 11 2012, 09:45 AM) Hi guys..I want to clarify the case above..I am the previous owner of that account laialstein. I am the real person Lai Al Stein but my lowyat/hotmail account was hacked when I online at cyber cafe..I forgot to log out and someone use my account for scamming after I left..I manage to catch the person who use my account..He is one of our cyber cafe friend we used to play online game together and he owed us money..He used my account to scam and pay the debt and I didnt know that..I don't know how this scam case going on but I had just settle a previous scam case of a external hard disk last month..I thought all the scam cases had been solved and I did not notice this is still going on..can u give me some time to solve this? We are innocent victims in this scam case..First time I encounter this matter due to my carelessness..For other person who deal with me before, for sure they know I'm not a scammer.. lol i laughed at this "story"Alwinc, can u contact me personally in facebook? I added u..I will figure out how to solve this case.. my badlishah pengakap senior, I hope you understand how this situation going..I am not a scammer who come to lowyat and cheat other people money..I just dont want I got an unnecessary bad reputation outside.. |
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Apr 11 2012, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(IchigoX @ Apr 11 2012, 09:45 AM) Hi guys..I want to clarify the case above..I am the previous owner of that account laialstein. I am the real person Lai Al Stein but my lowyat/hotmail account was hacked when I online at cyber cafe..I forgot to log out and someone use my account for scamming after I left..I manage to catch the person who use my account..He is one of our cyber cafe friend we used to play online game together and he owed us money..He used my account to scam and pay the debt and I didnt know that..I don't know how this scam case going on but I had just settle a previous scam case of a external hard disk last month..I thought all the scam cases had been solved and I did not notice this is still going on..can u give me some time to solve this? We are innocent victims in this scam case..First time I encounter this matter due to my carelessness..For other person who deal with me before, for sure they know I'm not a scammer.. He's your cyber cafe friend, plays online game together, he owed you money... OK lah, assuming he really really stole your account... now can you take him out ? To the police station or meet up with Alwinc so you all can settle the scam? If not, you (Lai Al Stein) and Tan Wooi Ming will still be charged with cheating/fraud if TS ever wants to charge you. Alwinc, can u contact me personally in facebook? I added u..I will figure out how to solve this case.. my badlishah pengakap senior, I hope you understand how this situation going..I am not a scammer who come to lowyat and cheat other people money..I just dont want I got an unnecessary bad reputation outside.. And I really want to trust you, but you must give us your friend "Tan Wooi Ming". If you don't, as above. Edit : And the account name that TS banked in to was "Tan Wooi Ming". So, this case your friend "Tan Wooi Ming" is the scammer. I doubt a 3rd person (not Lai Al Stein or TWM) is involved. Re-read the first post. Edit #2 : I'm now more surprised "Tan Wooi Ming the Scammer" knows Lai Al Stein's MBB account number. Even more surprising, if the scammer is Tan Wooi Ming, why does he want TS to bank in to Lai Al Stein's account? Why not his own account? Scammer (TWM) got access to Lai Al Stein's ATM card? Read these contradictions and evidence below. =========== 1) Initially the scammer wants Alwinc to bank in to LAI AL STEIN's MBB. Why LAI AL STEIN's account? 2) Scammer forwarded email of DiGi iPhone 4 transaction to Alwinc's email. 3) Fake tracking code was given when Alwinc banked in. ----- NOW LAI AL STEIN is claiming he is innocent? He say he kena hack by the friend. So why not he tell us all details about his friend from cyber cafe so we can catch this TAN WOOI MING instead? ==================================== Let's give this situation, TAN WOOI MING and LAI AL STEIN are both innocent, so there is a 3rd person scamming? 3rd person has access to LAI AL STEIN Maybank and TAN WOOI MING Public Bank account? YOU GUYS MAKE THE CALL, WHAT I AM SAYING IS TRUE OR NOT. Edit #3 Lai Al Stein, if you want to avoid court, give us the name of YOUR FRIEND who 'stole' your account. This post has been edited by patienceGNR: Apr 11 2012, 02:33 PM |
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Apr 11 2012, 02:05 PM
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310 posts Joined: Jan 2010
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Apr 11 2012, 01:48 PM) LOL... read post number #15 dulu... he admit already... alamak... tadi dah baca tapi tak paham sangat...so... "story" dia... he is a scammer who acc kena scammed by another hack scammer to scam? fulamak... gempak story beliau.. |
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Apr 11 2012, 03:06 PM
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I like to add something here.
His old thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2116788&hl= Notice the picture? Where he gets it from? http://www.lelong.com.my/99-99-scratchless...2-07-Sale-P.htm No successful sale here but it support the fact that he never had the product, and had use pics from other legitimate seller. |
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Apr 11 2012, 03:21 PM
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2,058 posts Joined: Mar 2011 From: Today: 9:03 AM
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Apr 11 2012, 03:06 PM) I like to add something here. Thanks for the input bro.His old thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2116788&hl= Notice the picture? Where he gets it from? http://www.lelong.com.my/99-99-scratchless...2-07-Sale-P.htm No successful sale here but it support the fact that he never had the product, and had use pics from other legitimate seller. @Apis bro, can you check the latest MAC address used by Lai Al Stein in Post #15? Then cross check with the thread in the above LYN link provided by WhatMan. If it is the same, we'll know that he's scamming. |
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Apr 12 2012, 05:16 AM
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238 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan ->Puncak Jalil -> Cyberjaya
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QUOTE(IchigoX @ Apr 11 2012, 09:45 AM) my badlishah pengakap senior, I hope you understand how this situation going..I am not a scammer who come to lowyat and cheat other people money..I just dont want I got an unnecessary bad reputation outside.. settle it fast la bro, if what u said is true, bring the culprit to police..attach the report here.. no wonder ur fb have a lot mutual fren of mine..yong jian ur batch ka? me iz like his brother in RO.hahaAdded on April 12, 2012, 5:19 amam not at his side kayh, ts..pm me if u need more information..not much really This post has been edited by imranzero: Apr 12 2012, 05:19 AM |
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Apr 12 2012, 02:59 PM
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4,465 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Theatre of Dreams 
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no need to check. its all clear both is a dupe. i will not list it in dispute thread if its not. dont be fool by his story.
This post has been edited by Apis_LuaLua: Apr 12 2012, 03:03 PM |
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Apr 12 2012, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Apr 12 2012, 02:59 PM) no need to check. its all clear both is a dupe. i will not list it in dispute thread if its not. dont be fool by his story. Then we'll just conclude both Lai Al Stein and Tan Wooi Ming are scammers and have cheated Alwinc's money. I urge TS to take action, whichever way you want it (sue them, since you already have partial details...) ... |
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Apr 13 2012, 10:57 PM
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no update @TS?
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Apr 14 2012, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(killafrenzy @ Oct 4 2011, 09:46 PM) I will too. But I need to knw who is this Macha? N should I report police or settle it d dark way A little update from IchigoX a.k.a Lai Al Stein..He pm'd me to remove the info, I will as I trust him a little now, as he has provided some proof here. But I still doubt whether there is a 3rd person involved because the scammer has access to Tan Wooi Ming's account. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2297037&hl= http://static.lowyat.net/uploads/attach-6/...-1334404071.jpg This post has been edited by patienceGNR: Apr 14 2012, 07:53 PM |
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Apr 14 2012, 08:04 PM
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u guys very keipo..dont simply spoilt people reputation without knowing the truth..i been working with alwinc to solve this scam case..we are the victims..
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Apr 14 2012, 09:06 PM
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310 posts Joined: Jan 2010
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Al stein...
remember to give us update... and of course... the full name of the real culprit together with a photo is best... this not only can prove ur innocence... it also can help other members to be more vigilant and aware of the scammer's true identity... btw... post also the police report... im sure details of real culprit is in the report also. if u are really innocent.. im sorry for putting u through these troubles... but by doing these things... u will be clear of ur accusations... |
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Apr 14 2012, 11:08 PM
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786 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Selangor,Sarawak 
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Hi guys out there been really busy lately... thanks so much for helping out in my dispute thread here and special thanks to imranzero and patienceGNR even pm me regarding updates in this thread.
Yes. i've talked to Al Stain in facebook and he's claiming that the con guy wasnt him and stating that his account has been hacked by his 'friend' Quoted below is our conversation that day in facebook : QUOTE As Lai Hi bro..I read through your scam case in lowyat..I am here to clarify something to you..I did not notice this scam case is still going on..I thought just got one scam case and I had settle it last month.. I indeed the true owner of laialstein in lowyat and my real name is Lai Al Stein..I'm from Kulim and I study in UTAR kampar now.. My lowyat account was hacked end of last year I guess..In kampar there is a lot of cyber cafe..I used to go there to play games with friends..I forgot to log out everything before I left and someone had hacked my account..I know the person who hacked my account..He owed me quite a lot in online game..He hacked my account and did those scam cases to repay me debt..I did not notice it and suddenly he said he got money to pay me money. I give him my account number but I asked him to bank in to my other friend account who is Tan Wooi Ming because I dont have public bank account..we both are innocent victims like u in this scam case..Tan Wooi Ming dont know about this..the money I received it and I had spent it..I dont know the 1k is dirty money..If I know earlier I would have return you.. the person who hacked my account I just called him ah kheong..we always play in the same cyber cafe..I just know he is from Seremban..Kampar TARC student but now he withdraw from college edi..Lost in hiding as he also owed the cyber cafe here few thousands.. Since I been involved in this, I will figure out the ways to settle this..Tell you honestly, I am a trustworthy guy..I sold many stuffs in lowyat and I never thought that I will involve in this mess..I never scam people and I dont need to scam other people too as I am still a student from a good family background...My carelessness teach me a lesson.. Well, I dont have enough cash to give you the 1k back as I spent in on monster solo hd..I really dont know the money come from an illegal way..Can you give me some time to save 1k and return to you? or better if u can accept my solo HD headphone? WednesdayAs Lai bro, u there? WednesdayALwin Chan Yes. Please. I would wan to get my money back from that guy. Since i have more details abt him. I will lodge another police reportto track the guy down WednesdayAs Lai Ok..I tried to track him down too..i been working hard to get info of him..he ran to escape in KL last month but now I dont know where he hide edi..I couldn't get his address.. ThursdayAs Lai alwinc ThursdayAs Lai u there? I hope you can trust me..I'm not the one who con ur money..I hope u can clear my reputation in lowyat..We havent get the culprit but my name been blacklisted in lowyat..i feel it's unfair to me because I am also a victim in this scam case.. really hope u understand that the pressure I faced..I been accused for something I did not do.. ThursdayALwin Chan No, impossible.. unless i have gotten my money back otherwise the case is still with police the report is still on.. ThursdayAs Lai i understand..but Im the guy who con ur money I am not the guy.. leave the case to police ThursdayALwin Chan i understand.. but indeed this con is under ur account ThursdayAs Lai but please do something..we need to cooperate with each other ThursdayALwin Chan leave the case to the police.. ThursdayAs Lai It's under my account but it's ABC scam im the third party who dont know everything until the case revealed.. ThursdayALwin Chan this week im still outstation.. next week will b going bck to lodge another report regarding this detail i have recently ThursdayAs Lai the culprit still happy outside and enjoying scam others in cyber cafe ThursdayALwin Chan ya.. will track him down via legal way ThursdayAs Lai i will do my part here too..anything i keep u update 9 hours agoAs Lai can u please post something in lowyat to clarify my thing??? walao...my friends all thought i am a scammer and now...i really in bad condition! 9 hours agoAs Lai i also the victim in this case ar....and now...all my friends talk bad abt me...not my fault also..i really down to max |
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Apr 14 2012, 11:13 PM
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It is actually quite simple. If lalastein claims to be ABC scam, then both party lodge a police report. I.e. TS lodge a report against the bank account holder then lalastein lodge a report against people scamming using the friend account and let the police investigate.
I would think lalastien will have a case since he claims he knows the conman as well as the conman also owes many ppl and the CC shop. I am sure the CC shop owner will also gladly joint in reporting too if the claim is true. This post has been edited by b00n: Apr 14 2012, 11:14 PM |
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Apr 15 2012, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 14 2012, 11:13 PM) It is actually quite simple. If lalastein claims to be ABC scam, then both party lodge a police report. I.e. TS lodge a report against the bank account holder then lalastein lodge a report against people scamming using the friend account and let the police investigate. hi there , I nearly got conned as Well. I got other acc of his Which I think is his partly partnerI would think lalastien will have a case since he claims he knows the conman as well as the conman also owes many ppl and the CC shop. I am sure the CC shop owner will also gladly joint in reporting too if the claim is true. |
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Apr 15 2012, 11:21 PM
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blame yourself for donating 1k ringgit to anonymous person. use your head next time.
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Apr 15 2012, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(thadd88 @ Apr 15 2012, 09:51 PM) hi there , I nearly got conned as Well. I got other acc of his Which I think is his partly partner Mind searching who is this?1122051069990 Maybank Ng kam loong ichigo2u@hotmail.my Maybe this would help. Initially I wanted to buy creative 5.1 usb card xfi sonething. Thts the access tht laialstein guy pm me. Date when happen 10th Jan 2012 b4 cny |
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Aug 24 2012, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(thadd88 @ Apr 15 2012, 11:37 PM) Mind searching who is this? case close?1122051069990 Maybank Ng kam loong ichigo2u@hotmail.my Maybe this would help. Initially I wanted to buy creative 5.1 usb card xfi sonething. Thts the access tht laialstein guy pm me. Date when happen 10th Jan 2012 b4 cny |
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Aug 25 2012, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 14 2012, 11:13 PM) It is actually quite simple. If lalastein claims to be ABC scam, then both party lodge a police report. I.e. TS lodge a report against the bank account holder then lalastein lodge a report against people scamming using the friend account and let the police investigate. agreed!!I would think lalastien will have a case since he claims he knows the conman as well as the conman also owes many ppl and the CC shop. I am sure the CC shop owner will also gladly joint in reporting too if the claim is true. but will that guy lodge it? 110% doubt it..  |
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