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jastan
post Jun 10 2013, 12:19 PM

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Lets all explore n list all the unique selling points of Central .

This I will keep when approach by renters n sub sale later .

1. One stop lift - car park to unit
2. freehold - for sub sale.
3. 10'6" high ceiling - which offer a sense of spaciousness.
4. 4th tier security - owner can access to his/her level only.
5. Bus transportation to KLCC.
6. Won 4 prestigious world class awards. Link - http://www.yuktung.com.my/news-room/latest...-nst-24-05-2013

a) BEST ARCHITECTURE ASIA PACIFIC
b) BEST ARCHITECTURE MULTIPLE RESIDENCE MALAYSIA
c) HIGHLY COMMENDED HIGH RISE ARCHITECTURE MALAYSIA
d) HIGHLY COMMENDED APARTMENT MALAYSIA

7. Aim for Green Building Index (GBI) certification upon completion.
8. 10 minutes drive to KLCC with no traffic light along the way.
9. 2 minutes drive to multi-transportation hub: LRT, KTM, ERL, TBS.
10. Low maintenance per square feet. 0.25 cent per square feet.

11. Pocket Gardens at every 3 levels
12. shade-inducing walls and windows prevent direct sunlight heat transference to help conserve energy for cooling (Save aircond electricity consumption)
13. Prestigious Chauffeuring Services
14. Exclusive Lobby
15. Meeting rooms and roof top business centre rooms c/w facilities for better presentation for business owner in making deal.


Anyone want to continue ?

Hope can reach to 20 !

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post Jun 10 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(jastan @ Jun 10 2013, 01:19 PM)
Lets all explore n list all the unique selling points of Central .

This I will keep when approach by renters n sub sale later .

1. One stop lift - car park to unit
2. freehold - for sub sale.
3. 10'6" high ceiling - which offer a sense of spaciousness.
4. 4th tier security - owner can access to his/her level only.
5. Bus transportation to KLCC.
6. Won 4 prestigious world class awards. Link - http://www.yuktung.com.my/news-room/latest...-nst-24-05-2013

a) BEST ARCHITECTURE ASIA PACIFIC
b) BEST ARCHITECTURE MULTIPLE RESIDENCE MALAYSIA
c) HIGHLY COMMENDED HIGH RISE ARCHITECTURE MALAYSIA
d) HIGHLY COMMENDED APARTMENT MALAYSIA

7. Aim for Green Building Index (GBI) certification upon completion.
8. 10 minutes drive to KLCC with no traffic light along the way.
9. 2 minutes drive to multi-transportation hub: LRT, KTM, ERL, TBS.
10. Low maintenance per square feet. 0.25 cent per square feet.

11. Pocket Gardens at every 3 levels
12. shade-inducing walls and windows prevent direct sunlight heat transference to help conserve energy for cooling (Save aircond electricity consumption)
13. Prestigious Chauffeuring Services
14. Exclusive Lobby
15. Meeting rooms and roof top business centre rooms c/w facilities for better presentation for business owner in making deal.
Anyone want to continue ?

Hope can reach to 20 !
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No 5 and No 13 same? If yes, can combine it as one point?
and point 14, 30ft ceiling height grand exclusive lobby?

This post has been edited by ngaisteve1: Jun 10 2013, 12:46 PM
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post Jun 10 2013, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 10 2013, 12:34 PM)
No 5 and No 13 same? If yes, can combine it as one point?
and point 14, 30ft ceiling height grand exclusive lobby?
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Dear Ngaisteve1,

Item 5. Bus transportation to KLCC and item 13. Prestigious Chauffeuring Services is totally different and same goes to the word and meanings.

Item 5. Bus transportation to KLCC is for mainly the residence use daily to commute.

Item 13. Prestigious Chauffeuring Services is services provide for business owner who wanted to hire chauffeuring services for their VIP clients.


For Item 14) grand exclusive lobby , how high is the lobby I don't have the details but the developer will construct it impressively for the resident/visitor to feel grand not like ordinary condo that has boring simply lobby entrance. I notice that mostly old condo just have ordinary lobby layout where only the high end condo has grand exclusive lobby. Although Central Residence price range is not high end, hope that the developer will provide 5 Star lobby.
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post Jun 10 2013, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 10 2013, 10:55 AM)
oh i thought they will do both phase 1 and phase 2 piling (foundation) at the same time
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U should not " thought" as u are not the engineer for this project ....

Actually, our Central Soho is quite slow in building up...
6 months ago, the MF (midfields) shoplots (4 storey) was bare ground
N now already delivered ...

3 months ago, the Leafz was piling stage n now already in building up... Piling stage takes the most time .
Once habis, the build up can really go supersonic !
As I said, even 20 years ago, those Mont Kiara condo are building 1 floor per week under Sunrise ...
Now the Leafz senior top mgt were ex Sunrise etc
It's not surprising that they were in light speed as Sunrise
Owners were the king builders of Condo n soho office etc

Yesterday, I passed by The Leafz, everything there busy moving up etc

A bit quiet at Central .


I went to NSK MART at Kuchai, n saw the Central set up mini kiosk store selling Central Courts .
... They are still selling Courts ...
Honestly, I think they should not be selling quality condo at sleazily kiosk style . Should take up good logistics shoplots or agents to sell etc
Proper professionalism counts to image and right type of buyers .

That day I attended one new condo simple soft launch.
Despite a simple project, they hired quality agents to put up nice display toy models of the project n we can view the models n sales people proper attitude to approach us.

The office was 100% dedicated to the project .

This central courts selling at kuchai nsk kiosk stall next to others selling
Skin care or handbags etc look a bit odd to me . No wonder a bit slow selling la. ... Selling 600k condo at stalls isn't selling no branded skin care or pvc handbags ...

This post has been edited by Citydude: Jun 10 2013, 01:14 PM
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post Jun 10 2013, 02:47 PM

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CityDude can help to get project status from the management?
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post Jun 10 2013, 02:52 PM

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I would say the progress is pretty much ok.
Comparing to the Leafz which stated the project way earlier and not Central is catching up.
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post Jun 11 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(luvimp @ Jun 10 2013, 03:52 PM)
I would say the progress is pretty much ok.
Comparing to the Leafz which stated the project way earlier and not Central is catching up.
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you mean central residence progress in okay because leafz started earlier compare to central residence?
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post Jun 11 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(jastan @ Jun 10 2013, 12:56 PM)
Dear Ngaisteve1,

Item 5. Bus transportation to KLCC and item 13. Prestigious Chauffeuring Services is totally different and same goes to the word and meanings.

Item 5. Bus transportation to KLCC is for mainly the residence use daily to commute.

Item 13. Prestigious Chauffeuring Services is services provide for business owner who wanted to hire chauffeuring services for their VIP clients.
For Item 14) grand exclusive lobby , how high is the lobby I don't have the details but the developer will construct it impressively for the resident/visitor to feel grand not like ordinary condo that has boring simply lobby entrance. I notice that mostly old condo just have ordinary lobby layout where only the high end condo has grand exclusive lobby. Although Central Residence price range is not high end, hope that the developer will provide 5 Star lobby.
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I wonder Item 13 will ever take place? Sounds abit too terror to me.
Unless this is a 5 star hotel . Bus shutter services, is not a 100% commitment, right?
If the service isn't profitable, how can it be run for a lifetime? Knowing Malaysia ways, now u see, now u don't.

Everything is to be tied to profits. Not just give you for no apparent reason.
The JMB which takes over, will precide what's to be in and what's out. If collection is bad, you can forget about running the fountains and other lights.

Many high density condo have high bad collections problems unless the tenants are the type who credible.
If 30% don't pay up on time or defer payment, the JMB is screwed!


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post Jun 12 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Citydude @ Jun 11 2013, 07:54 PM)
I wonder Item 13 will ever take place? Sounds abit too terror to me.
Unless this is a 5 star hotel . Bus shutter services, is not a 100% commitment, right?
If the service isn't profitable, how can it be run for a lifetime? Knowing Malaysia ways, now u see, now u don't.

Everything is to be tied to profits. Not just give you for no apparent reason.
The JMB which takes over, will precide what's to be in and what's out. If collection is bad, you can forget about running the fountains and other lights.

Many high density condo have high bad collections problems unless the tenants are the type who credible.
If 30% don't pay up on time or defer payment, the JMB is screwed!
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ya hopefully the maintenance fee account is well managed by the committee.
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post Jun 12 2013, 01:05 PM

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Most JMB try to collect. its the Tenants who refused to pay, or bad paymaster.

without the budget, most maintenance will stall and slow down.
That is why, the JMB must be very professional in dealing with collections.


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post Jun 12 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Citydude @ Jun 12 2013, 02:05 PM)
Most JMB try to collect. its the Tenants who refused to pay, or bad paymaster.

without the budget, most maintenance will stall and slow down.
That is why, the JMB must be very professional in dealing with collections.
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Legal action will be taken right for those who refuse to pay up maintenance?
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post Jun 12 2013, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 12 2013, 01:30 PM)
Legal action will be taken right for those who refuse to pay up maintenance?
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If the tenant owe RM 2000 . The lawyer fee can be RM 5000
U think the JMB got the time to really pursue with lawyers and all the bullshit?
Usually, it's just letters to warn the tenant. The ony most drastic solution usually is turn off the tap or water source. Or render this access card dead when the tenant try enter.

Most condo jmb having payment n collection problems. Especially if the syabas is still to handover meter Hugh and to tenants.
If the JMB is still the water collection, then the syabas is paid by the JMB management.
In that case, most JMB will charge than than the actual water usage

So don't be too unrealistic that the solution being lawyers. It is NOT. The lawyers fee will be sky high and it's not smart to pay higher lawyer fee.
That's why it is very important that during start JMB manage properly and not fall into default of collection or payment.

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QUOTE(Citydude @ Jun 12 2013, 08:10 PM)
If the tenant owe RM 2000 . The lawyer fee can be RM 5000
U think the JMB got the time to really pursue with lawyers and all the bullshit?
Usually, it's just letters to warn the tenant. The ony most drastic solution usually is turn off the tap or water source. Or render this access card dead when the tenant try enter.

Most condo jmb having payment n collection problems. Especially if the syabas is still to handover meter Hugh and  to tenants.
If the JMB is still the water collection, then the syabas is paid by the JMB management.
In that case, most JMB will charge than than the actual water usage

So don't be too unrealistic that the solution being lawyers. It is NOT. The lawyers fee will be sky high and it's not smart to pay higher lawyer fee.
That's why it is very important that during start JMB manage properly and not fall into default of collection or payment.
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I think those who able to own central residence and the court should be somewhat decent one la, won't be that nasty not to pay maintenance fee kua
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post Jun 13 2013, 04:36 AM

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QUOTE(HeartRock_Cafe @ Jun 12 2013, 11:27 PM)
a good jmb cut water if don't pay maintenance. my ex condo did it.
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AGREE! See u are talking about experience. I like that.

Can we refrain from " I think"

Some JMB from start ask tenants give credit card to charge 3 months in advance before passing keys.
Then, the invoice is issue every quarterly. Especially the fixed monthly maintenance.
If JMB wants to rid itself from the heavy water bills responsibility, they already fixed the water meters attached to the unit. Otherwise, if no migration of meters to unit, then, the JMB or developer mgt bears the water bill fully from syabas. In this situation, the developer or JMB will take action to potong water or clamp the water meter. In this case where no migration of meters to unit, the JMB or developer mgt will charge higher water bills than the real usage charged by Syabas.

If monthly maintenance not paid, the JMB could block the ALL ACCESS CARDS issue to that unit, meaning right from guard hse he cannot enter or leave, or the glass access or all 3 or 4 tier security is jam up n blocked, until payment received to UN BLOCK THE CARDS.

it is naive to think, that central owners are All credible to pay. Many buy as investors or outstation owners, who don't bother. Since the unit is empty, many don't pay. Each month adds up, and soon into thousands 4 figure to 5 figure amounts, including bank loans, and so that is why non payment.

If that unit. Can rent out or being used, there is less chances of non payment since the access cards must be used daily. If central units cannot rent out or for months to years, then, as owners yourself asked if you would pay up too?
This situation is related to financial and nothing related to credibility.

That is why buying sub sale, you need to check the outstanding bills of the unit for sale of all utilities incurred, including maintenance bills as there are many cases where those buying 2nd hand unit that still have outstanding bills incurring more than over RM 50,000 in maintenance bills especially these days where a monthly maintenance is already
More than RM 300 x 12 = RM 3600 per year. ( exclude other bills) .
5 years = RM 18,000. If after 10 years left vacant ?

Many condo units due to bad reasons, are not occupied. These are those examples cases.
( especially those who simple rent out to crime people, and after the case, these units nobody wants . )
Worse scenario, where murders taken place.

This post has been edited by Citydude: Jun 13 2013, 04:40 AM
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post Jun 13 2013, 09:00 AM

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Yesterday chat with my friend. Her condo (15 years old) in ampang, almost half didn't pay maintenance, walau.
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post Jun 13 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Citydude @ Jun 12 2013, 07:10 PM)
If the tenant owe RM 2000 . The lawyer fee can be RM 5000
U think the JMB got the time to really pursue with lawyers and all the bullshit?
Usually, it's just letters to warn the tenant. The ony most drastic solution usually is turn off the tap or water source. Or render this access card dead when the tenant try enter.

Most condo jmb having payment n collection problems. Especially if the syabas is still to handover meter Hugh and  to tenants.
If the JMB is still the water collection, then the syabas is paid by the JMB management.
In that case, most JMB will charge than than the actual water usage

So don't be too unrealistic that the solution being lawyers. It is NOT. The lawyers fee will be sky high and it's not smart to pay higher lawyer fee.
That's why it is very important that during start JMB manage properly and not fall into default of collection or payment.
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If i am not wrong, there is a bill tabulated in the parliament that the JMB have the power to access into the unpaid maintenance fee's unit and can 'lelong' things in the unit. Still pending, not approved yet. I think is a good move. I really cant imagine why can't one pay the maintenance fee promptly where as he /she is using the facility. In this world , there are many type of people and selfish. So, there isn't much can be done except use the law to force.

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 13 2013, 09:00 AM)
Yesterday chat with my friend. Her condo (15 years old) in ampang, almost half didn't pay maintenance, walau.
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They think of 'You see, I dont pay and still can use the facility. Then, why should i pay'
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QUOTE(jastan @ Jun 13 2013, 10:27 AM)
They think of 'You see, I dont pay and still can use the facility. Then, why should i pay'
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ya i guess that's the problem
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My loan just approved ... ^ _ ^
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post Jun 13 2013, 11:26 PM

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Some time back, when I visited those central kiosk, they say I could exchange my soho with Courts.

I didn't take their words seriously.

Dd any of you guys been told of this ?

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