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rurushu
post Oct 3 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(mrbob @ Oct 3 2014, 07:31 AM)
Googling WD Passport issues brings up a fair bit of reports on loose USB port. When disassembled, users found custom USB-controller-integrated HDD PCBs that cannot be installed into any SATA ports. The integrated PCBs seems to be on most 2.5" Passports even on the good old Passport Essential. You can also find plenty of pictures on the net. Here are some.

WD Passport Essential
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WD Passport Ultra
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Problems with USB connector could be fairly easily fixed by resoldering. However if USB controller fails then you better have a backup otherwise there's just a slim chance of recovering the data by replacing the integrated PCBs sourced through 3rd-party spare part stores.
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hmm.... like that is almost dealbreaker already (at least to me).... doh.gif
hmmm.... guess I will have to go to Seagate for my future ext hdd.... cry.gif
currently have 4 WD Passports in my backup.... sweat.gif
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post Oct 3 2014, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Oct 3 2014, 09:42 AM)
hmm.... like that is almost dealbreaker already (at least to me)....  doh.gif
hmmm.... guess I will have to go to Seagate for my future ext hdd....  cry.gif
currently have 4 WD Passports in my backup....  sweat.gif
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Currently the only model that has been dissect (confirmed on Youtube) is Seagate Expansion of which is the cheapest among all the series.
I'm not too sure about the Slim series and beyond though so keep an eye on.
Seagate Expansion has 2TB model... 2TB on laptop anyone? brows.gif

Youtubed a bit and found this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVGN8QycTs
doh.gif There's always some surprise sweat.gif

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Oct 3 2014, 10:24 AM
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post Oct 3 2014, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Oct 3 2014, 09:42 AM)
hmm.... like that is almost dealbreaker already (at least to me)....  doh.gif
hmmm.... guess I will have to go to Seagate for my future ext hdd....  cry.gif
currently have 4 WD Passports in my backup....  sweat.gif
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I know how you feel, I also got a WD Passport in my collection. Jumped at a really good offer before I did a proper checking with Uncle Google. Sigh...


QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 3 2014, 10:17 AM)
Currently the only model that has been dissect (confirmed on Youtube) is Seagate Expansion of which is the cheapest among all the series.
I'm not too sure about the Slim series and beyond though so keep an eye on.
Seagate Expansion has 2TB model... 2TB on laptop anyone? brows.gif

Youtubed a bit and found this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVGN8QycTs
doh.gif There's always some surprise sweat.gif
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There's already a YouTube video showing how to extract the 2TB Samsung M9T HDD from a SG Backup Plus Slim. The USB controller is clearly shown as a separate adapter. We should get the same innerts here in SEA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6eV3pEXKgo

From another SG 2.5" Backup Plus disassembly video, also shows that the USB controller is separate from the HDD PCB. So I think it's pretty safe to conclude that the current batch of SG's 2.5" ext HDDs can be extracted and redeployed to normal SATA port.

SG 2.5" Backup Plus disassembly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e67098dYZ_0

This post has been edited by mrbob: Oct 3 2014, 06:51 PM
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post Oct 3 2014, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 3 2014, 10:17 AM)
Currently the only model that has been dissect (confirmed on Youtube) is Seagate Expansion of which is the cheapest among all the series.
I'm not too sure about the Slim series and beyond though so keep an eye on.
Seagate Expansion has 2TB model... 2TB on laptop anyone? brows.gif

Youtubed a bit and found this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVGN8QycTs
doh.gif There's always some surprise sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mrbob @ Oct 3 2014, 06:50 PM)
I know how you feel, I also got a WD Passport in my collection. Jumped at a really good offer before I did a proper checking with Uncle Google. Sigh...
There's already a YouTube video showing how to extract the 2TB Samsung M9T HDD from a SG Backup Plus Slim. The USB controller is clearly shown as a separate adapter. We should get the same innerts here in SEA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6eV3pEXKgo

From another SG 2.5" Backup Plus disassembly video, also shows that the USB controller is separate from the HDD PCB. So I think it's pretty safe to conclude that the current batch of SG's 2.5" ext HDDs can be extracted and redeployed to normal SATA port.

SG 2.5" Backup Plus disassembly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e67098dYZ_0
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Really learnt alot from sifus of hdd here, now will be more picky about getting ext hdd already, although warranty is still a priority, now there is another factor to consider, which is ease of data retrieval juuuuuuuuuuuust in case something happens sweat.gif

Edit: Just simply checked in garage sales, Seagate Backup Plus 2.5" ext hdd max capacity only 1TB? no 2TB models? cry.gif cry.gif

This post has been edited by rurushu: Oct 3 2014, 10:48 PM
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post Oct 4 2014, 06:19 AM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Oct 3 2014, 10:43 PM)
Really learnt alot from sifus of hdd here, now will be more picky about getting ext hdd already, although warranty is still a priority, now there is another factor to consider, which is ease of data retrieval juuuuuuuuuuuust in case something happens  sweat.gif

Edit: Just simply checked in garage sales, Seagate Backup Plus 2.5" ext hdd max capacity only 1TB? no 2TB models?  cry.gif  cry.gif
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2TB still new in market, and price probably will be pretty high.
You can always import from Amazon or Ebay? But of course as you're concern about warranty, it's not worth the while even it's cheaper to buy through them. sweat.gif
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post Oct 5 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 4 2014, 06:19 AM)
2TB still new in market, and price probably will be pretty high.
You can always import from Amazon or Ebay? But of course as you're concern about warranty, it's not worth the while even it's cheaper to buy through them. sweat.gif
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Oh... i see.... because the WD Passport I bought I think end of last year? or beginning of this year (i cant really remember) are 2TB....
yea, the prices are a little on the high side, but that time, i compared getting 2x 1TB and 1x2TB the price of 1x 2TB is still slightly cheaper than getting 2x 1TB sweat.gif

WD My Passport in Malaysia already have 2TB variant, but Seagate still haven't? rclxub.gif

Importing from overseas for such hardware is not an option because like you said, warranty issues *touching wood*

so my chances now is only wait Seagate to release their Backup plus 2TB in Malaysia?? icon_question.gif
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Oct 5 2014, 11:16 AM)
Oh... i see.... because the WD Passport I bought I think end of last year? or beginning of this year (i cant really remember) are 2TB....
yea, the prices are a little on the high side, but that time, i compared getting 2x 1TB and 1x2TB the price of 1x 2TB is still slightly cheaper than getting 2x 1TB  sweat.gif

WD My Passport in Malaysia already have 2TB variant, but Seagate still haven't?  rclxub.gif

Importing from overseas for such hardware is not an option because like you said, warranty issues *touching wood*

so my chances now is only wait Seagate to release their Backup plus 2TB in Malaysia??  icon_question.gif
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You can get SG Backup Plus Slim from most Lowyat stores. Viewnet was selling it at RM369 last month. It will take a few more months for the 2.5" Expansion 2TB to come in. There seems to be more demand overseas than in Malaysia but stock should be coming in as the demand picks up.

Most consumers in Malaysia still think that WG Passports' 2.5" portable HDDs has a SATA port on the HDDs' PCB that allows them to be extracted and reused if the USB part of the portable HDD fails. I guess as long as there is no issue with the USB connector or the controller, users don't really need to worry about this design issue. My own Passport is still running well after 3 years, though now I'm just using it as a secondary backup HDD. Praying that it won't suffer any USB related problems like other users. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(mrbob @ Oct 8 2014, 10:08 AM)
You can get SG Backup Plus Slim from most Lowyat stores. Viewnet was selling it at RM369 last month. It will take a few more months for the 2.5" Expansion 2TB to come in. There seems to be more demand overseas than in Malaysia but stock should be coming in as the demand picks up.

Most consumers in Malaysia still think that WG Passports' 2.5" portable HDDs has a SATA port on the HDDs' PCB that allows them to be extracted and reused if the USB part of the portable HDD fails. I guess as long as there is no issue with the USB connector or the controller, users don't really need to worry about this design issue. My own Passport is still running well after 3 years, though now I'm just using it as a secondary backup HDD. Praying that it won't suffer any USB related problems like other users.  sweat.gif
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yea.... my only chance is to wait for another few more months for the SG 2.5" Expansion 2TB to come in.... cry.gif cry.gif

yea, i know that if it does not suffer the USB connector failure it is ok, but then again, USB port is one of those ports where most of the plug and unplug would take place and that kind of wear and tear is something that we can't control, doh.gif

which is why from now on, I will go to SG for their ext hdd rather than the usual WD My Passports.... because, you just cannot be too sure right? sweat.gif
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a chance to win yourself a drive!

6TB RED would be great!

btw I'm using 6TB now but Windows 7 64bit refuse to allow me to allocate more space than that. Can't even partition the additional space.

quite stump on search terms to put on Google either.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 9 2014, 10:44 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/WDMalaysia/photos/...52694965181211/

a chance to win yourself a drive!

6TB RED would be great!

btw I'm using 6TB now but Windows 7 64bit refuse to allow me to allocate more space than that. Can't even partition the additional space.

quite stump on search terms to put on Google either.
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Allow more space than 2TB? hmm.gif
Latest Intel storage chipset driver?
GPT formatted?
Erm, what's more need to be considered? hmm.gif

Probably due to newly release drive, there's not much info on the web other than DOA and bad sectors drives appearing. sweat.gif
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post Oct 10 2014, 11:48 AM

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Ahhh I also donno how to describe it. Basically when place the drive on my system, I'm allow to allocate only up to 4GB storage space. The additional 2GB, I can't create partition on.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 10 2014, 11:48 AM)
Ahhh I also donno how to describe it. Basically when place the drive on my system, I'm allow to allocate only up to 4GB storage space. The additional 2GB, I can't create partition on.
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2GB limits are from the previous CENTURY! Is this some ancient computer?
Or did you accidentally make the partition type FAT16?
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my wd my passport essential 3.0 external harddisk is having some annoying issue.
when plug into usb 2.0 port, no problem , if 3.0 blue usb port , not detected. anyone else having this issue?i googled and it seems a lot are having this issue too but too bad cant find any working solution
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QUOTE(dkk @ Oct 10 2014, 02:34 PM)
2GB limits are from the previous CENTURY! Is this some ancient computer?
Or did you accidentally make the partition type FAT16?
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i keep typing GB.

tongue.gif I mean TB. I can't fully utilize a 6TB drive and Windows 7 64bit doesn't allow me to do so.
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2TB for RM369. Is this price cheap?
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Guys, wanna ask, how about Hitachi's Touro series?

From what I've simply googled, they are of the highest quality hard drives from HGST.....

are their hdd separated from the USB controller for ease of data retrieval should the controller fails?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 10 2014, 11:23 PM)
i keep typing GB.

tongue.gif I mean TB. I can't fully utilize a 6TB drive and Windows 7 64bit doesn't allow me to do so.
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Yes, I got into a similar problem as well. Thought it was only me. Just for the fun of it, I put all 4 of the 6TB drives into my HP Microserver. The BIOS detected them and managed to create a 24TB RAID 0 volume. laugh.gif

But once booted into Server R2 2008, I could not format the whole partition. Tried to google but till today I don't have the clue to the problem.

Anyway, the new drives were meant to be put into the Synology anyways. All fine and dandy in a RAID 5 volume.
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same here, the drives were meant for some NAS system I received.
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Hi Guys,

Today went to Digital Mall,
and saw AllIT selling Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB for 409, and
WD My Passport Ultra 2TB at 412, and
C-Zone selling Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB for 389.

Considering the separated USB controller in the backup plus slim, is the price a go? or a no go? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Oct 16 2014, 11:38 PM)
Hi Guys,

Today went to Digital Mall,
and saw AllIT selling Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB for 409, and
                              WD My Passport Ultra 2TB      at 412, and
        C-Zone selling Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB for 389.

Considering the separated USB controller in the backup plus slim, is the price a go? or a no go?  icon_question.gif
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It looks really nice and sleek btw brows.gif

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