QUOTE(rurushu @ Sep 24 2014, 05:55 PM)
really? coz i see the WD at lowyat plaza was still around RM229.. I was asking about portable external hdd...All About Harddisk Thread V4
All About Harddisk Thread V4
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Sep 25 2014, 08:18 AM
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Sep 25 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Sep 25 2014, 08:18 AM) really? coz i see the WD at lowyat plaza was still around RM229.. I was asking about portable external hdd... oh.... thought you were mentioning about 3.5" internal hdd then i am not so sure, never bought any AData ext hdd before, only got Buffalo, Toshiba and WD.... |
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Sep 25 2014, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Sep 25 2014, 02:37 PM) oh.... thought you were mentioning about 3.5" internal hdd i noobie... so i dunno how to self-assemble my desktop / laptop sum more i gal... then i am not so sure, never bought any AData ext hdd before, only got Buffalo, Toshiba and WD.... so wanna ask if it's worth it getting portable ext hdd 1tb adata hv620 for RM179 mah... |
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Sep 25 2014, 06:20 PM
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Hard drive reliability update 2014, do we have to avoid Seagate for now?
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-r...september-2014/ This post has been edited by powerwoot: Sep 25 2014, 06:21 PM |
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Sep 25 2014, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Sep 25 2014, 04:58 PM) i noobie... so i dunno how to self-assemble my desktop / laptop sum more i gal... I met a clerk (girl lai de) very lihai at assemble those CPU, scary see-ing her tear off the clips.. haha. *ahem* back to main topic...so wanna ask if it's worth it getting portable ext hdd 1tb adata hv620 for RM179 mah... You will need to ask about the warranty and stuff, whether you gets 3-year or just 1-year, possible some won't entertain warranty or some shop has very bad RMA experience, just sell cheap only. Other than warranty, yes, it's a darn good deal for 1TB 2.5" external HDD. QUOTE(powerwoot @ Sep 25 2014, 06:20 PM) Hard drive reliability update 2014, do we have to avoid Seagate for now? Source of the statistic... https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-r...september-2014/ I've met few failed WDC and also Hitachi, which none on Seagate yet on my long experience so I think I won't rely on such one sided information though. There's actually a batch of WDC 320GB which failed on few desktop at my clients, that's probably some really bad batch, but since they're out of warranty, I can only replace them with new one. |
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Sep 25 2014, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 25 2014, 07:36 PM) I met a clerk (girl lai de) very lihai at assemble those CPU, scary see-ing her tear off the clips.. haha. *ahem* back to main topic... It's their own data center so source is the company itself.You will need to ask about the warranty and stuff, whether you gets 3-year or just 1-year, possible some won't entertain warranty or some shop has very bad RMA experience, just sell cheap only. Other than warranty, yes, it's a darn good deal for 1TB 2.5" external HDD. Source of the statistic... I've met few failed WDC and also Hitachi, which none on Seagate yet on my long experience so I think I won't rely on such one sided information though. There's actually a batch of WDC 320GB which failed on few desktop at my clients, that's probably some really bad batch, but since they're out of warranty, I can only replace them with new one. |
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Sep 25 2014, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 25 2014, 07:36 PM) I met a clerk (girl lai de) very lihai at assemble those CPU, scary see-ing her tear off the clips.. haha. *ahem* back to main topic... oh warranty is the standard 3 years... You will need to ask about the warranty and stuff, whether you gets 3-year or just 1-year, possible some won't entertain warranty or some shop has very bad RMA experience, just sell cheap only. Other than warranty, yes, it's a darn good deal for 1TB 2.5" external HDD. now groupon is giving away RM25 coupon off so any goods you all wan can get... i saw western digital but still around Rm229 for 1tb... |
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Sep 25 2014, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 25 2014, 07:36 PM) I met a clerk (girl lai de) very lihai at assemble those CPU, scary see-ing her tear off the clips.. haha. *ahem* back to main topic... fuhh.... i hope i can find a girlfriend like this You will need to ask about the warranty and stuff, whether you gets 3-year or just 1-year, possible some won't entertain warranty or some shop has very bad RMA experience, just sell cheap only. Other than warranty, yes, it's a darn good deal for 1TB 2.5" external HDD. Source of the statistic... I've met few failed WDC and also Hitachi, which none on Seagate yet on my long experience so I think I won't rely on such one sided information though. There's actually a batch of WDC 320GB which failed on few desktop at my clients, that's probably some really bad batch, but since they're out of warranty, I can only replace them with new one. Anyway, back to topic, hmm... so far for me never had a faild hdd before, ext or int *touch wood touch wood touch wood* so i cant say anything about harddisk reliability (had both Seagate and WD for int hdd, and Buffalo, Toshiba, and WD for ext hdd) maybe is due to my low level usage, but mine has been since 2007.... QUOTE(moniqee @ Sep 25 2014, 08:34 PM) oh warranty is the standard 3 years... if warranty is 3 years then is pretty standard, if not mistaken only those performance hdd will have 5 years warranty? lifetime warranty i dont think so.... so far only knew lifetime warranty are for RAMs now groupon is giving away RM25 coupon off so any goods you all wan can get... i saw western digital but still around Rm229 for 1tb... |
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Sep 26 2014, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Sep 25 2014, 08:34 PM) oh warranty is the standard 3 years... You're buying from advertisement at Groupon? now groupon is giving away RM25 coupon off so any goods you all wan can get... i saw western digital but still around Rm229 for 1tb... It's understandable that Groupon sometimes much cheaper but I wonder about the service. If the retailer is reputable one and they have good history of providing good RMA service then I can say, go ahead with the purchase. I myself still buying from local retailer due to ease for RMA service, but recently has bad experience with PC Image so I'm avoiding that for the moment. QUOTE(rurushu @ Sep 25 2014, 09:35 PM) fuhh.... i hope i can find a girlfriend like this Anyway, back to topic, hmm... so far for me never had a faild hdd before, ext or int *touch wood touch wood touch wood* so i cant say anything about harddisk reliability (had both Seagate and WD for int hdd, and Buffalo, Toshiba, and WD for ext hdd) maybe is due to my low level usage, but mine has been since 2007.... Anyway, those HDD is about luck, for my case, my Seagate 320GB that I bought back at 2007 only last me 1 or 2 years (can't remember the exact date) then sent for warranty once, but using it until now and saved many PCs from losing tons of data. Planning for a bigger one for saving even more but that will wait until I have enough dough.. haha... |
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Sep 26 2014, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 26 2014, 08:20 AM) You're buying from advertisement at Groupon? yeah from Groupon advertisement... normally the warranty goes back to the supplier... which in this case is Adata itself... if you get the WD from Groupon (u need to check whether the warranty is from WD itself or other PC shops) they do state in the advertisement it was being warranty by whom?It's understandable that Groupon sometimes much cheaper but I wonder about the service. If the retailer is reputable one and they have good history of providing good RMA service then I can say, go ahead with the purchase. I myself still buying from local retailer due to ease for RMA service, but recently has bad experience with PC Image so I'm avoiding that for the moment. |
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Sep 26 2014, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Sep 26 2014, 08:46 AM) yeah from Groupon advertisement... normally the warranty goes back to the supplier... which in this case is Adata itself... if you get the WD from Groupon (u need to check whether the warranty is from WD itself or other PC shops) they do state in the advertisement it was being warranty by whom? For Seagate and WDC, the warranty service is local and I can just deal with them easily; just sent to their service centre and wait for RMA to return with new one, and they're fast as well; within 1 week. As for Adata, I'm not sure about this, can't even find their website on SEA (South East Asia) here, so I assume you'll need to send oversea (Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, etc.) for RMA which is a pain and expensive, which is why it's sometimes not recommended to get those brand unless you can refer back to the supplier/retailer for RMA. |
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Sep 26 2014, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 26 2014, 08:20 AM) Anyway, those HDD is about luck, for my case, my Seagate 320GB that I bought back at 2007 only last me 1 or 2 years (can't remember the exact date) then sent for warranty once, but using it until now and saved many PCs from losing tons of data. Planning for a bigger one for saving even more but that will wait until I have enough dough.. haha... hmm... true enough, this is like a lottery game with hits or miss.... so cant really judge based on one or two user's experience.... unless is like a few thousands or hundreds people, then can call is bad batch or something... QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 26 2014, 09:07 AM) For Seagate and WDC, the warranty service is local and I can just deal with them easily; just sent to their service centre and wait for RMA to return with new one, and they're fast as well; within 1 week. that is why i always buy at physical shop when it comes to peripherals or hardwares that i can source myself, As for Adata, I'm not sure about this, can't even find their website on SEA (South East Asia) here, so I assume you'll need to send oversea (Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, etc.) for RMA which is a pain and expensive, which is why it's sometimes not recommended to get those brand unless you can refer back to the supplier/retailer for RMA. though is old fashioned brick and mortar, but just in case things happen *touch wood touch wood* RMA will not be as pain as buying online etc. |
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Sep 27 2014, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Sep 24 2014, 05:05 PM) That's a very cheap ext HDD even when it's not PC/IT fair price. For the innerts it houses Toshiba HDD and Via VL701-T4 controller. Review at Tweaktown shows fast performance. Can't comment on warranty experience though.http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5714/adat...view/index.html Note that SG and WD 2.5" 1TB ext HDDs could sell < RM200 during PC/IT fairs although for now I would be avoiding WD 2.5" ext due to intregated USB3 controller to the HDD PCB which limits tinkering with the int HDD should the USB controller fail. QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 25 2014, 07:36 PM) I've met few failed WDC and also Hitachi, which none on Seagate yet on my long experience so I think I won't rely on such one sided information though. Yeah HDDs are generally hit or miss, but you can do alot to care for your HDDs better. Take a wholistic view on how to best maintain the PC components health. You will be surprise on how long your HDDs last once it gets pass the crucial 1st 6 months usage.There's actually a batch of WDC 320GB which failed on few desktop at my clients, that's probably some really bad batch, but since they're out of warranty, I can only replace them with new one. |
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Sep 30 2014, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(mrbob @ Sep 27 2014, 06:02 PM) Note that SG and WD 2.5" 1TB ext HDDs could sell < RM200 during PC/IT fairs although for now I would be avoiding WD 2.5" ext due to intregated USB3 controller to the HDD PCB which limits tinkering with the int HDD should the USB controller fail. Yeah HDDs are generally hit or miss, but you can do alot to care for your HDDs better. Take a wholistic view on how to best maintain the PC components health. You will be surprise on how long your HDDs last once it gets pass the crucial 1st 6 months usage. |
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Oct 1 2014, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Sep 30 2014, 10:20 PM) I've a client that uses this WDC passport, I think their controller is very complicated and not friendly for any OS, means if you're using XP or 2003, you need to install SCSI driver for the Ext Hard disk (yes, SCSI!!) If you're using Linux, I assume that as well, which defeat the purpose of having portable hard disk that can plug in any where, so far only 2003 needs to install the driver to works, XP... As for the controller, it could have been integrated with the hard disk which means either one dead, you can't retrieve data yourself, you'll need to send to specialist to extract data the "special" way, not very friendly in another way, Seagate Expansion is just another normal hard disk inside, tear open the case, and you got yourself a 2.5" hard disk that you can use on any machine |
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Oct 1 2014, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 1 2014, 07:31 AM) I've a client that uses this WDC passport, I think their controller is very complicated and not friendly for any OS, means if you're using XP or 2003, you need to install SCSI driver for the Ext Hard disk (yes, SCSI!!) If you're using Linux, I assume that as well, which defeat the purpose of having portable hard disk that can plug in any where, so far only 2003 needs to install the driver to works, XP... oh..... like that ar...... learnt new stuff today As for the controller, it could have been integrated with the hard disk which means either one dead, you can't retrieve data yourself, you'll need to send to specialist to extract data the "special" way, not very friendly in another way, Seagate Expansion is just another normal hard disk inside, tear open the case, and you got yourself a 2.5" hard disk that you can use on any machine hmm.... guess i think i know the next brand of ext hdd im gonna test |
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Oct 1 2014, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Oct 1 2014, 09:46 PM) oh..... like that ar...... learnt new stuff today WD Passport warranty is 3 years i think, the rest i don't know, well for me, i dont really care how complicated the external hdd is,hmm.... guess i think i know the next brand of ext hdd im gonna test Just back it up regularly if the data is important, and it will save you from spending thousand Ringgit on data recovery service when it died. buying 2 or 3 external HDD for backup is certainly cheaper than data recovery service. Windows backup utility isnt very hard to use. |
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 1 2014, 10:58 PM) WD Passport warranty is 3 years i think, the rest i don't know, well for me, i dont really care how complicated the external hdd is, Skipped that and go for Cobian backup for my case, I think it's much flexible in terms of backup ability, in of its own preferences. (Btw, Cobian is FREE Just back it up regularly if the data is important, and it will save you from spending thousand Ringgit on data recovery service when it died. buying 2 or 3 external HDD for backup is certainly cheaper than data recovery service. Windows backup utility isnt very hard to use. And yes, critical data works always rely on multiple backup copies, and cycle them daily for offline backup in case of... erm... well.. anything. This is what Insurance can't cover |
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Oct 2 2014, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 1 2014, 10:58 PM) WD Passport warranty is 3 years i think, the rest i don't know, well for me, i dont really care how complicated the external hdd is, hahaha, you are absolutely correct, as the sayings go "Prevention is always better than Medication"Just back it up regularly if the data is important, and it will save you from spending thousand Ringgit on data recovery service when it died. buying 2 or 3 external HDD for backup is certainly cheaper than data recovery service. Windows backup utility isnt very hard to use. I do backup my files regularly, but I only using ext hdd mainly because other backup solutions like NAS is kind of out of my reach Just saying that it is good to know that in case my trusted ext hdd failed not due to HDD issue, but other issue like the USB connector *touching wood on my desk vigorously* then I can at least have a simpler mean of recovering my data |
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Oct 3 2014, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Sep 30 2014, 10:20 PM) QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 1 2014, 07:31 AM) As for the controller, it could have been integrated with the hard disk which means either one dead, you can't retrieve data yourself, you'll need to send to specialist to extract data the "special" way, not very friendly in another way, Seagate Expansion is just another normal hard disk inside, tear open the case, and you got yourself a 2.5" hard disk that you can use on any machine Googling WD Passport issues brings up a fair bit of reports on loose USB port. When disassembled, users found custom USB-controller-integrated HDD PCBs that cannot be installed into any SATA ports. The integrated PCBs seems to be on most 2.5" Passports even on the good old Passport Essential. You can also find plenty of pictures on the net. Here are some.WD Passport Essential ![]() ![]() WD Passport Edge ![]() WD Passport Ultra ![]() Problems with USB connector could be fairly easily fixed by resoldering. However if USB controller fails then you better have a backup otherwise there's just a slim chance of recovering the data by replacing the integrated PCBs sourced through 3rd-party spare part stores. This post has been edited by mrbob: Oct 3 2014, 07:47 AM |
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