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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.14, Nikon D4 $6000 only

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post Feb 4 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 3 2012, 09:29 PM)
bought a 3rd party phottix grip and it doesn't wanna work..i haz sad sad.gif
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Should just go for the original MB-D10.. its magnesium alloy and also you don't get contact issue... ._.
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post Feb 4 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Feb 4 2012, 09:44 AM)
Well, he does have that 10-30 and 30-110 lenses..and suddenly he bought 28-300 and this 14-24 with the adapter..he said for future FX use..
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Side note is now you have access to these lens drool.gif Quickly upgrade to FX then 14-24 is totally awesome!
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post Feb 4 2012, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Feb 4 2012, 06:20 PM)
That's the bright part  tongue.gif but still no money  sad.gif
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Sell away your D90, DX lens etc. Welcome to the FX club xD
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post Feb 4 2012, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Feb 4 2012, 06:35 PM)
filter?
meh, dowan use already...
my misfortune yesterday~
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

filter oh filter..
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What about the lens itself?
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post Feb 5 2012, 05:49 PM

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24-70 is definitely weather sealed. I don't think any of the gold ring lens are not weather sealed. *or is there any?*
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post Feb 6 2012, 05:18 AM

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Yeah, friend did tell me there's a product launch on 9th. But not sure what models coming in. If D800/E is the titans, then what is the D4? Zeus? tongue.gif
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post Feb 7 2012, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Feb 6 2012, 01:51 PM)
pixel peeper should go for the AA removed version.
D4 cater different market    laugh.gif
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LOL, D4 for the high speed category. But then again, the D800 has the same AF system right?

QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 6 2012, 03:56 PM)
then for u, write those things see can approve onot leh tongue.gif

anyway, why lah the 24G more expensive than the 85G sweat.gif

who can belanja me both?  rclxms.gif
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Harder to build.. its like asking why 50mm is the cheapest tongue.gif

QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 6 2012, 08:12 PM)
tu la.. org suh baca manual tamo.. LOL
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Like!

QUOTE(b0r1nG @ Feb 7 2012, 06:19 PM)
I am more into weddings and portraits now...left motorsports for some time, but I have my D2Xs for motorsports still

but thinking of 36MP for portrait, when comes to photoshop, it will kill my time for editing!!! Imagine to remove a pimple using smart clone in D700 needs 10 seconds, with D800, i think we need 30 seconds... laugh.gif
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Use bigger size for tool? It should be similar lo... I doubt you're gonna do 1:1 pixel mapping to edit, probably on a 12MP but unlike on a 36MP.
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post Feb 7 2012, 10:32 PM

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Just got back from my trip, time to crunch some info of the D800 biggrin.gif hopefully its worth upgrading so there's a motivation for me to take more jobs haha!
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post Feb 7 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Feb 7 2012, 10:33 PM)
there said tiada loh,
6fps in DX mode, but it already defeat the purpose of shooting 36mp sensor

kinda interested with d800 review and the d800E
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Beside the slow burst rate, the D800/E looks yummy! Only time I rely on 8fps on my D700 is during Motorsport, normally 5fps also sufficient... *Seldom shoot those stage fashion show nowadays, probably those too tongue.gif*
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post Feb 7 2012, 10:42 PM

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So, I went googling for "D800 sample images", and I went like "My Eyes!!!".

Its looks bad to me... then again it could be a prototype so maybe the end product is better... or the Nikkor lens not good enough to resolve those pixels.
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post Feb 7 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Feb 7 2012, 10:45 PM)
So the D3X is dead? Wondering how much is the 2nd hand price when the D800 is out in the market.
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D800 to D3X is somewhat like D7000 to D300s. Another tweaked or maybe improved D4X probably appear to replace the D3X.
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post Feb 7 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Feb 7 2012, 10:51 PM)
D3x to D800 is USD8000 to USD2999
D300s to D7000 is USD1700 to USD1300 tongue.gif

Dpreview update : http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikonD800/

Added on February 7, 2012, 10:57 pmI hate the ISO button on D700, it's too far for quick adjustment.
Sadly it's still there on D800. sad.gif
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I find the button position ok, probably because I'm used to it tongue.gif I usually change ISO without removing the DSLR from my eye.
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post Feb 7 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Feb 7 2012, 11:25 PM)
have you try canon pro bodies ? Their ISO button is next to the top lcd panel, very easy to reach.
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Yes, I have used 7D, 5Dmk2, 1Dmk4... and I'm not used to the layout at all... each time got to either ask my friend (the owner) or spend some time looking for it. Most of the time I get annoyed and return it to the owner.
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post Feb 8 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 7 2012, 11:58 PM)
D800 and D7000 have same pixel pitch.
the official nikon sample images uses 14-24, 24-70 and 70-200.

nikon site getting overloaded now, but this guy mirrors them.
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d800-high-resol...n-image-samples
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These sample looks awesome! I remember seeing some samples before this, but the image doesn't look sharp like this one. Those looks really muddy, lousy lens used perhaps.

QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Feb 8 2012, 12:10 AM)
extensively use? you can't judge the layout is good or bad if you just use it temporary.
so far i find that there is pros and cons for both C and N body buttons layout.
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Nope, I'm not a Canon user. I'm a Nikon user.

QUOTE(seather @ Feb 8 2012, 12:17 AM)
latest news from my usual shop....
7.5k... my heart is itchy now  wub.gif
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If price is 7.5k for the D800, I'm so interested now, but in the D800E instead.

QUOTE(seather @ Feb 8 2012, 12:37 AM)
official set smile.gif
if this is ur first FX body, yeap smile.gif a 16-35 f4 VR UWA lens will set u back another 4k
if i can prove it is less than 8k, will u buy me one?  brows.gif
this shop is authorized nikon dealer... if tipu 2moro komtar will have fire alarm tongue.gif
(unless his FB account kena hacked la laugh.gif)
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Any idea about D800E instead? I'm really interested now biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ifer @ Feb 8 2012, 12:56 AM)
is it me or is the 14-24mm lens is a fantastic lens
both the interior shots looks woah...

on a side note, look how much difference without AA filter can do to your photos... click me
NONAC is dead this time round... wahahahaa
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14-24 is the king of UWA zoom, superb optics!

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Feb 8 2012, 01:41 AM)
look at the 14-24 sample the detail is so frigging nice !
pairing in such high MP sensor is really making full use of the lens resolution !

interesting comparison,
for extra 300 usd, i think D800E is ideal  brows.gif
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D800E --> Win! Saw the samples and very impressed with the details...
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post Feb 8 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Feb 8 2012, 02:51 PM)
So , D4 or D800E you ?  brows.gif
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If I have the funds, D4! But D800E sounds more reasonable...
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post Feb 8 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 8 2012, 03:20 PM)
My bad. Seeing it wrongly. Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II doesn't has IS except for the 24mm and 28mm wide lenses tongue.gif
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I wonder why go for the 24mm f/2.8 IS prime when you can go for the 24mm f/1.4? For handheld landscaping? o_O
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Feb 8 2012, 03:29 PM)
more like why to go for it when they have 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM
even tamron announce to produce 24-70 f/2.8 VC* USD
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Lighter lens maybe.. and better optics since its prime?

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 8 2012, 03:31 PM)
No idea. The later wide lenses not L lens though.

BTW, what's the different between D800 and D800E? What's the purpose of taking down the AA filter? Care to enlighten me with details? huh.gif
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24mm f/1.4 is a L lens right?

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Feb 8 2012, 03:41 PM)
low pass filter/AA filter is to remove the moire pattern where there is no-AA
it is a layer of filter before the sensor.
drawback is it will result in less sharp. less by how many % I don't know.

in order to fully maximise such large amount of megapix
AA filter is removed, and result in better sharpness.

those are theoretical, in practical I think it's hard to differentiate.
or in purist view, D800E is better to them.
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Removing AA filter always improves the 'sharpness'. Not just on high MP sensors, even on the 12MP D700 sensor.
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post Feb 8 2012, 06:13 PM

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Wow, those shots by http://www.cmphotography.com/blog.cfm and http://weblog.robvanpetten.com/archive/nikon-d800 using the D800 is awesome!

Guess a pro photog makes it look even better... biggrin.gif
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post Feb 8 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 8 2012, 06:30 PM)
they will die tongue.gif
1 raw file around 70mb in size.
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Shooting 36MP Jpeg is like shooting uncompressed RAW of the 12MP D700 LOL...

Cham lo... those laptops when editing sure kinda gg ._.
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post Feb 8 2012, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 8 2012, 06:40 PM)
I like Everdying's idea of getting D3s when the price dropped. However, D800E able to muscle out every details you need and that only come with "passion" for photography. Do you have it? tongue.gif

I wonder what Canon has under their shelves now...
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I'm leaning towards D800E... cause I still have my D700 for 8fps for fast paced... I don't want to be spamming 36MP at 4fps... the file size will kill me >_<
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