why onli test? didnt buy? haha

describe a little. hahah

i still dont have enough $$ la..bought a second hand car... have just changed several item:

tyre bearing
upgrade to wira's back suspension (now can kona baring yo!! )

im planning to buy that chip next month...the thing about that chip is it made you want to press the pedal to the metal...superb torque..huhu

btw...i've asked kirol yesterday...he said that it will not affect ur fc...just take care of ur heavy feet..haha

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I wish to put up my review on my test drive impression with a Savvy Manual 2006, hope this can get some feedback from senior member to further advice me. If you're too lazy to read, please scroll down all the way to the bottom to find out my highlights. Please help this poor soul to find his way to own an affordable Savvy, coz I LOVE SAVVY



As a SAGA BLM owner, my first impression seeing the car was a shock. The car has an inch thick of dust covers everywhere. The seller use his key to manually unlock the door, didn't even bother to engine check, immediately crank the engine for me. He was claiming the aircon is VERY COLD. So I hop in and blast until fan speed 4, I can feel the coldness, but the air wasn't blowing right. I asked his permission to dismantle his glove compartment, and found his pollen filter has been totally clogged up. As I took out the pollen filter, some hair clip, dead spider, dead cockroach, and many more fall off. The aircon seems hasn't been serviced since 2006. The seller immediately got shocked, and told me he hasn't seen any pomen that dress in long sleeve + neck tie in slack(I was wearing industrial VIKING safety shoe though). He was impressed as I even helped him to dust off the pollen filter and I can now feel the air blowing even fan speed is 1. For a 6 years never serviced aircon, I'm impressed by the cooling performance.



I was expecting original coil mat, even without coil mat atleast a rubber mat, but there isn't! The seller said, owner's kid spill milk on those mats, couldn't be clean anymore as the car would smells like rotten dead rat. So, I don't give a crap, since rubber mat only worth 4 bucks/piece. Immediately I hop on the car start driving. The clutch is surprisingly efficient. When I release the clutch pedal, I think its fully tensioned and need to readjust to a slightly lower position. Found out from seller, he just took the car to replaced the complete clutch set that cost him almost RM900(not sure whether its genuine). As we driven off, I heard engine roaring quite rough. I took a wild guess, is it supposed to be the teppet sound? Later I off clutch(stepped on the clutch pedal) and let the car free roll, surprisingly there aren't any noise generated. So, I have no idea whether its engine or the gearbox got problem.



Here comes the gan jeong part. As we hit open road, I slam on the throttle... the throttle response is IMMEDIATE!!!! 999x faster response than my Campro Twin Cam! But then, despite the RPM was soaring up, the speedo isn't showing significant speed increase(I certainly sure it wasn't the clutch spin). I'm not sure whether its because of the under power designed drivetrain required higher RPM to achieve lower speed just like the Campro? I wasn't really hitting the top speed as the seller is sitting besides me. We diverted into smaller road and start whacking corners. I am deeply impressed by the handling of Savvy! It show some decent bodyroll but within tolerance. However, traction wise is much... I repeat, MUCH better than my BLM. Despite its tall body, but it doesn't feels like Kenari/Kelisa/Kancil/Viva/Myvi AT ALL. I've got the feeling of driving a suspension well tuned Wira/Lancer. Above all that, the best part is the suspension doesn't feel any harsh to my butt. Running through pothole, the car will feel a very mild/muffled bump on the tyres but that's it. No more extra movement/swaying left/right. I am very surprised by the super comfortness ride/handling despite the car is very dirty and scratches here and there. We hit the brakes hard several time on the way back, and those brakes responded quite numb. I had to reassured my braking distance far before the car stopped.



I went down the car and did my final inspection, found the top mounting nearest to the power steering reservoir has totally gone. Would that cause the vibration to resonated in the cabin? Or is it because of the engine has badly run down? Or is it the gear box got problem? I couldn't decide. This is the 1st time I have my hand on a Savvy. I reconfirmed the brake fluid is BLACK SESAME PASTE color, radiator spare tank is dark chocolate in color, so as the power steering reservoir is dark color. I didn't even take out the dipstick and check, rest assured the car has NOT going through ANY maintenance. Centre lock has gone, alarm not working. Didn't get to check the CD player as I didn't bring, but radio is functioning. Overall, I was surprised by the handling and comfortness of a badly ruined Savvy. For a car so badly maintain, its suspension still felt much-much similar to a 2010 SAGA(if not better than a SAGA). The paint on the bonnet already faded. The left(passenger side) fender had accident before(can never cheat a guy who work in general insurance industries). Passenger side both front/rear doors got scratches by hitting the curb during cornering. Front and rear bumper, usual bits and lumps during parking, minor kisses unavoidable. Both side headlights are also faded(not sure what to expect, do I need to look for BOSCH logo?).

Last but not least, I managed to negotiate the price until RM7000. So, gentlemen(and ladies if there's any). Would you mind to help me up a little bit by providing some advice based on my finger snapping typing of these long paragraph grand father story? You guys are the king of Savvy, and I certainly can't afford to buy a new 1 from show room, and therefore searched for the cheapest available option. Please enlighten me if there is alternative. Please let me have a rough idea how much I need to prepare to fix this car if I were to buy it? Some highlights below:

HIGHLIGHTS

1) Engine sounded very rough, not sure its teppet sound or gear box sound
2) I tried to squat down and see the bottom of the engine bay, no significant oily. The fella hasn't wash engine yet. Its dusty, but NOT oily.
3) I notice the steering rack is wet, was worried and checked, found its aircon water dripping down from the condense pipe. Is is supposed to have a hose to drain the condensed water?
4) Brakefluid seems a must to change if I own the car, factory is DOT3? DOT4? DOT5?
5) Radiator tank must be rust until mother also cant recognize already, changed 1? Or send for flush job?
6) Worst case is, if gear box KO, how much can replace 1?
7) If engine KO, how much full overhaul?

Appreciate if you can take a little time to help me up here. For the price RM7000, I would expect NOT spend any thing more than RM3000 to repair the car. Your help and useful advice will be much much much appreciated

LOL..look at the seat and the pain..more worn than my 6 year,9 months old savvy which is a 2005 car...you can check the engine sound of my car in the youtube...only used fully sinthetic oil since 30k km..now cloaking more than 150k km and I'm going do overhaul (not engine rebuild) as I'm going to do 40km a day drive from next week onwards.

yes indeed the stock savvy suspension is real good - you doesn't feel you are driving a mini car. Seriously this car is way underrated, really love the heavy gearshifting, clutch and power steering. definitely this car is better than Saga BLM, enjoy drive it better than my wife's Saga SE 09 (seriously under utilised with only 18k km on the road over 3 years).

you shouldn't feel any vibrations from the steering on idle - my car till now don't have to change engine mountings (other mini jap 3 cylinder engine cars sure vibrate like hell after 3 years).

Aircon - also never service once before lol, only know how to refill refrigerant ..the Renault's Denso air compressor I read is one of the best..but don't skimp on this as I intend to service also.

Contrary to public perception, this car is actually very low maintenance for the MT version, spare parts are widely available, only spent much of the money on servicing and fuel not repairs.

A Ferrari will be a worse off workhorse than a Savvy for my requirement.

Thank you for the truthful and honest feedback. Now I have rough idea on what am I supposed to expect if I buy the car. 90% is taking it on. Just before I get on, may I have a final piece of advice from fellow masters here? The engine noise is the worst I had in my life, I've driven a 3 ton Perkasa, even that diesel engine wasn't as rough as this poor little red Savvy I tested. I just went and demand for another final inspection today, so here's the video. May be you guys can help me justify.

best for ori is 175/50/15 lor.. hard to find best tyre for this size.. silverstone evol8 and dunlop D01 both have pro and cons.. but from what i read up this two is the best compare to standard nct5 (this tyre not good on wet.. ok for dry)..

i'm on 195/ 50 / 15..

front pirelli p5000, back GOODYEAR EAGLE F1..

need to modify rear end spring to accommodate this tyres.. or else rubbing issues..
using perdana spring (need to cut a bit or else its rally style..

here's how its look like..


*errr.. sorry for that DIY paint on the hood.. hideous i know.. later want to cf sticker it..

 
If I were you I see the car already run away fast fast, let alone test drive summore   

Hey NOX where you get the spliter for the car? How much? I'm planning to have it too. My bumper abit koyak already my existing lip hancur berkecai in highway.

splitter??

down there is diffuser.. universal type.. i got it from savoc member.. can go to brothers to buy.. universal diffuser.. rm100 both side..

side front is carnard.. per set is less 100 at the time i install mine cause bulk order it..
david, the engine sound is bit noisy.. cricket sound probably belting sound or worse the bearing on the pulley..
need to seek advice from foreman la.. try call osman baba (0172828351) just told him nox let you get his no.. also tell him you're from lowyat savvy topic.. he's in klang.. might as well take him to hear the problem and advice you..

but for rm7k, you should not complain much bro.. there should be a reason why the car price below market price.. just prepare the extra money to repair and ketuk all the dent la.. no point also you complain2 la..

as the ice corner guys here said " pay peanut, get peanut "..

choice is take it and prepare repair or take the one little bit low then market (9k-11k pricetag).. 2006 still can fetch 11k if i'm not mistaken.. yours is 4k below market value.. great deal already..

david, the engine sound is bit noisy.. cricket sound probably belting sound or worse the bearing on the pulley..
need to seek advice from foreman la.. try call osman baba (0172828351) just told him nox let you get his no.. also tell him you're from lowyat savvy topic.. he's in klang.. might as well take him to hear the problem and advice you..

but for rm7k, you should not complain much bro.. there should be a reason why the car price below market price.. just prepare the extra money to repair and ketuk all the dent la.. no point also you complain2 la..

as the ice corner guys here said " pay peanut, get peanut "..

choice is take it and prepare repair or take the one little bit low then market (9k-11k pricetag).. 2006 still can fetch 11k if i'm not mistaken.. yours is 4k below market value.. great deal already..

chassis number under the driver seat at exposed carpet...engine no somewhere at engine.